1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,635 >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US 2 00:00:02,635 --> 00:00:02,969 TODAY. 3 00:00:02,969 --> 00:00:04,738 WE ARE GATHERED HERE FOR A 4 00:00:04,738 --> 00:00:07,040 SPECIAL LIVE RECORDING OF 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,608 HOUSTON WE HAVE A PODCAST FOR A 6 00:00:08,608 --> 00:00:09,342 FEW REASONS. 7 00:00:09,342 --> 00:00:11,444 ONE, IS IT IS MENTAL HEALTH 8 00:00:11,444 --> 00:00:12,445 AWARENESS MONTH, SO WE'RE HERE 9 00:00:12,445 --> 00:00:14,114 TO TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, 10 00:00:14,114 --> 00:00:15,382 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T 11 00:00:15,382 --> 00:00:17,350 NORMALLY TALK ABOUT, I THINK, 12 00:00:17,350 --> 00:00:18,585 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO 13 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:20,620 ASTRONAUTS, WE USUALLY TALK 14 00:00:20,620 --> 00:00:22,989 ABOUT THE FLUID SHIFTS, THE BONE 15 00:00:22,989 --> 00:00:24,257 AND MUSCLE LOSS THAT HAPPENS ON 16 00:00:24,257 --> 00:00:25,959 THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION. 17 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:27,293 WE DON'T REALLY GET A CHANCE TO 18 00:00:27,293 --> 00:00:28,862 TALK ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH. 19 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:30,997 THE SECOND REASON WE'RE GATHERED 20 00:00:30,997 --> 00:00:32,532 HERE TODAY, IS TO HELP FULLY 21 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:33,767 TELL THIS STORY, WE CAN, YOU 22 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:35,168 KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE ASTRONAUT 23 00:00:35,168 --> 00:00:36,603 STUFF AND THE STUFF GOING ON IN 24 00:00:36,603 --> 00:00:37,904 SPACE ALL DAY, BUT REALLY, TO 25 00:00:37,904 --> 00:00:39,906 HELP US RELATE IT TO STUFF HERE 26 00:00:39,906 --> 00:00:41,307 ON THE GROUND, WHICH IS, AGAIN, 27 00:00:41,307 --> 00:00:43,743 ONE OF MY FAVORITE SAYINGS, ON 28 00:00:43,743 --> 00:00:45,278 THE GROUND, YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY 29 00:00:45,278 --> 00:00:46,880 THAT IT'S ON THE PLANET EARTH, 30 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,681 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU -- WE 31 00:00:48,681 --> 00:00:51,418 CAN RELATE IT TO IS A TOURING 32 00:00:51,418 --> 00:00:53,253 ROCK BAND SO WITH US TODAY IS 33 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:55,388 THE BAND SHINEDOWN. 34 00:00:55,388 --> 00:00:56,489 CONNECTING WITH US, FROM LEFT TO 35 00:00:56,489 --> 00:00:58,224 RIGHT, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ZACH 36 00:00:58,224 --> 00:00:59,993 MYERS, THERE WE GO, ERIC MASS 37 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:02,262 AND THEN BARRY ON THE RIGHT 38 00:01:02,262 --> 00:01:03,963 THERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 39 00:01:03,963 --> 00:01:04,898 JOINING US TODAY. 40 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:07,066 >> HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING TODAY? 41 00:01:07,066 --> 00:01:09,035 >> WE'RE FANTASTIC, I'M SO GLAD 42 00:01:09,035 --> 00:01:10,170 YOU CAN TAKE THE TIME TO JOIN 43 00:01:10,170 --> 00:01:12,739 US, ALL THE WAY FROM NORFOLK, 44 00:01:12,739 --> 00:01:14,607 VIRGINIA, THE WAY SHINEDOWN IS 45 00:01:14,607 --> 00:01:15,775 CONNECTING WITH US, A FEW 46 00:01:15,775 --> 00:01:17,911 REASONS, ONE OF THEM IS THEY 47 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:19,312 HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT MENTAL 48 00:01:19,312 --> 00:01:20,246 HEALTH, SOMETHING THAT'S VERY 49 00:01:20,246 --> 00:01:21,481 IMPORTANT TO THEM, SO THEY HAVE 50 00:01:21,481 --> 00:01:22,949 THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY RECENTLY, 51 00:01:22,949 --> 00:01:24,317 AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT YOU 52 00:01:24,317 --> 00:01:26,352 GUYS -- YOUR GUYS THOUGHTS ON 53 00:01:26,352 --> 00:01:28,221 MENTAL HEALTH, ESPECIALLY THE 54 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:29,622 ISOLATION AND THE FACT THAT YOU 55 00:01:29,622 --> 00:01:31,624 GUYS ARE A TOURING ROCK BAND AND 56 00:01:31,624 --> 00:01:33,560 TO MY RIGHT IS THE WHOLE SPACE 57 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,761 ELEMENT, IMMEDIATELY TO MY 58 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:37,096 RIGHT, MARK, THANK YOU FOR 59 00:01:37,096 --> 00:01:38,164 JOINING ME TODAY. 60 00:01:38,164 --> 00:01:40,300 >> MY PLEASURE. 61 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:42,469 >> MARK HAS SPENT 168 DAYS IN 62 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:44,170 SPACE, FROM SEPTEMBER 2017 TO I 63 00:01:44,170 --> 00:01:46,372 BELIEVE FEBRUARY 2018. 64 00:01:46,372 --> 00:01:47,607 YOU WORKED ON A NUMBER OF 65 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:48,842 EXPERIMENTS, DID A LOT OF SPACE 66 00:01:48,842 --> 00:01:52,278 WALK, YOU WERE A VERY BUSY MAN 67 00:01:52,278 --> 00:01:53,246 ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE 68 00:01:53,246 --> 00:01:54,581 STATION, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR 69 00:01:54,581 --> 00:01:56,115 YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON MENTAL 70 00:01:56,115 --> 00:01:57,450 HEALTH DURING YOUR STAY IN SPACE 71 00:01:57,450 --> 00:01:59,085 AND OF COURSE, OVER HERE, WE 72 00:01:59,085 --> 00:02:03,122 HAVE DR. JIM -- JIM, YOU ARE A 73 00:02:03,122 --> 00:02:04,624 SENIOR OPERATIONAL PSYCHOLOGIST 74 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:07,060 WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS 75 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:08,728 MEDICAL BRANCH AT GALVESTON IN 76 00:02:08,728 --> 00:02:11,664 THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, NASA, 77 00:02:11,664 --> 00:02:14,634 THREE DECADES OF EXPERIENCE. 78 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:16,536 YOU WERE IN THE ARMY AS WELL. 79 00:02:16,536 --> 00:02:17,871 AND CONTRIBUTING AUTHOR TO THE 80 00:02:17,871 --> 00:02:20,640 PAPER CALLED RISK OF ADVERSE 81 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,041 COGNITIVE OR BEHAVIORAL 82 00:02:22,041 --> 00:02:22,909 CONDITIONS AND PSYCHIATRIC 83 00:02:22,909 --> 00:02:24,511 DISORDERS, WHICH I WOULD 84 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:25,879 SUMMARIZE TO SAY HOW MENTAL 85 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:28,715 HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL 86 00:02:28,715 --> 00:02:29,682 PERFORMANCE CAN BE AFFECTED IN 87 00:02:29,682 --> 00:02:29,983 SPACE. 88 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:30,617 THANK YOU. 89 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:31,351 >> THANK YOU. 90 00:02:31,351 --> 00:02:32,385 >> MENTAL HEALTH CAN BE 91 00:02:32,385 --> 00:02:33,253 STRESSORS FROM ALL DIFFERENT 92 00:02:33,253 --> 00:02:34,787 SOURCES, NOT JUST THE ISOLATION 93 00:02:34,787 --> 00:02:36,523 OF BEING IN SPACE AND TOURING AS 94 00:02:36,523 --> 00:02:38,758 A ROCK BAND ON THE ROAD, SO 95 00:02:38,758 --> 00:02:40,126 WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THIS HERE 96 00:02:40,126 --> 00:02:41,828 TODAY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US 97 00:02:41,828 --> 00:02:44,264 ON FACEBOOK LIVE AND NASA TV. 98 00:02:44,264 --> 00:02:45,865 SHINEDOWN, I'M GOING TO THROW IT 99 00:02:45,865 --> 00:02:47,567 TO YOU GUYS FIRST, I WANTED TO 100 00:02:47,567 --> 00:02:49,135 UNDERSTAND, SO TO DRAW THIS 101 00:02:49,135 --> 00:02:50,169 COMPARISON, TO REALLY GET THIS 102 00:02:50,169 --> 00:02:52,405 FULL STORY OF WHAT IT'S LIKE 103 00:02:52,405 --> 00:02:53,873 REALLY, I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT 104 00:02:53,873 --> 00:02:55,008 THE ISOLATION ON THE 105 00:02:55,008 --> 00:02:56,042 INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION, BUT 106 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:58,144 WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR YOU GUYS AS A 107 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:00,513 TOURING ROCK BAND. 108 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:05,585 >> YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT 109 00:03:05,585 --> 00:03:09,088 AN HONOR TO TALK TO YOU GUYS. 110 00:03:09,088 --> 00:03:10,123 WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 111 00:03:10,123 --> 00:03:10,990 DO THIS. 112 00:03:10,990 --> 00:03:11,491 THANK YOU. 113 00:03:11,491 --> 00:03:15,328 I'M A NASA FAN SINCE I WAS A 114 00:03:15,328 --> 00:03:16,896 LITTLE KID, THIS IS REALLY COOL. 115 00:03:16,896 --> 00:03:20,934 BUT YOU KNOW, FOR US, IT'S -- 116 00:03:20,934 --> 00:03:26,940 IT'S HOURS OF BOREDOM AND 117 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:28,107 MOMENTS OF EXCITEMENT, THAT'S 118 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:29,275 PROBABLY THE SAME THING 119 00:03:29,275 --> 00:03:30,276 ASTRONAUTS GO THROUGH, I WOULD 120 00:03:30,276 --> 00:03:31,044 IMAGINE, MAYBE. 121 00:03:31,044 --> 00:03:33,279 BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WHAT 122 00:03:33,279 --> 00:03:35,648 YOU MAKE IT OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, 123 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:37,050 WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT WE 124 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,851 HAVE A REALLY GOOD FAMILY UNIT 125 00:03:38,851 --> 00:03:40,486 ON TOUR. 126 00:03:40,486 --> 00:03:42,288 WE ALL STILL RIDE THE SAME BUS, 127 00:03:42,288 --> 00:03:44,023 WE LOVE EACH OTHER, WE'RE 128 00:03:44,023 --> 00:03:45,592 BROTHERS, YOU KNOW, I THINK 129 00:03:45,592 --> 00:03:48,027 SOMETIMES SOME OF THE BANDS 130 00:03:48,027 --> 00:03:50,063 THINK WE HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS 131 00:03:50,063 --> 00:03:51,731 BECAUSE WE LIKE EACH OTHER SO 132 00:03:51,731 --> 00:03:52,031 MUCH. 133 00:03:52,031 --> 00:03:54,968 BUT YOU KNOW, FOR US, IT'S ABOUT 134 00:03:54,968 --> 00:03:56,502 BEING A SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR EACH 135 00:03:56,502 --> 00:03:57,070 OTHER. 136 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:59,072 AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY 137 00:03:59,072 --> 00:04:01,307 HUGE FOR TOURING BAND, THERE'S A 138 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:05,545 REASON WHY SO MANY MUSICIANS 139 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:08,181 FALL INTO DRUGS, ALCOHOL ABUSE, 140 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:10,149 AND DEAL WITH DEPRESSION, IT IS 141 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:14,153 A LIFESTYLE THAT ON THE OUTSIDE, 142 00:04:14,153 --> 00:04:16,889 SEEMS SUPER EXCITING, AND IT IS, 143 00:04:16,889 --> 00:04:18,758 IN SOME ASPECTS, BUT THERE'S 144 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:20,793 NOTHING THAT CAN PREPARE YOU FOR 145 00:04:20,793 --> 00:04:22,362 DOING -- I REMEMBER WHEN I 146 00:04:22,362 --> 00:04:25,632 JOINED THE BAND JUST AFTER THE 147 00:04:25,632 --> 00:04:27,100 BAND HAD GOTTEN THE TOURING THE 148 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:28,401 SECOND RECORD, SO I WAS LATE TO 149 00:04:28,401 --> 00:04:30,136 THE GAME, I WASN'T AN ORIGINAL 150 00:04:30,136 --> 00:04:31,537 MEMBER OF THE BAND AND I 151 00:04:31,537 --> 00:04:33,806 REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, COMING IN TO 152 00:04:33,806 --> 00:04:34,974 THIS AND JUST REALLY JUST 153 00:04:34,974 --> 00:04:36,342 THINKING HOW EXCITING IT'S ALL 154 00:04:36,342 --> 00:04:36,909 GOING TO BE. 155 00:04:36,909 --> 00:04:38,711 AND THEN PRETTY QUICKLY, GETTING 156 00:04:38,711 --> 00:04:42,949 A DOSE OF REALITY, WHICH IS, THE 157 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:46,185 IMMENSE AMOUNT OF IDLE TIME THAT 158 00:04:46,185 --> 00:04:47,587 YOU END UP WITH OUT HERE AND HOW 159 00:04:47,587 --> 00:04:50,556 YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT. 160 00:04:50,556 --> 00:04:54,761 IT'S PROBABLY -- I END UP, ME 161 00:04:54,761 --> 00:04:56,362 PERSONALLY, I END UP MAKING WORK 162 00:04:56,362 --> 00:04:57,430 FOR MYSELF A LOT NOW. 163 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:58,464 I MEAN, I WENT THROUGH THE 164 00:04:58,464 --> 00:05:01,334 PERIOD OF ALCOHOL AND WE ALL 165 00:05:01,334 --> 00:05:04,804 DID, EXCEPT ZACH, ZACH IS THE 166 00:05:04,804 --> 00:05:06,172 ONLY ONE THAT HELD FAST THROUGH 167 00:05:06,172 --> 00:05:06,606 EVERYTHING. 168 00:05:06,606 --> 00:05:08,474 BUT, YOU KNOW, BECOMING MORE 169 00:05:08,474 --> 00:05:10,076 SOBER AND REALLY HAVING TO FIND 170 00:05:10,076 --> 00:05:11,711 A WAY TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL 171 00:05:11,711 --> 00:05:15,348 SIDE OF BEING ON THE ROAD ALL 172 00:05:15,348 --> 00:05:16,916 THE TIME. 173 00:05:16,916 --> 00:05:18,117 YOU KNOW, I FIND WORK FOR 174 00:05:18,117 --> 00:05:20,420 MYSELF, I MAKE MYSELF BUSY. 175 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:22,422 WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW 176 00:05:22,422 --> 00:05:24,524 THAT THE ASTRONAUTS ON THE SPACE 177 00:05:24,524 --> 00:05:26,359 STATION AND MARK, THEY -- 178 00:05:26,359 --> 00:05:28,461 THEY'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AFTER 179 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:29,696 EXPERIMENTS AND DOING THINGS AND 180 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:31,097 THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING -- A 181 00:05:31,097 --> 00:05:40,740 TASK TO BE DONE. 182 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:42,875 SO YOU'RE USED TO SORT OF A 183 00:05:42,875 --> 00:05:44,877 GREAT STRUCTURE IN YOUR HOUSE, 184 00:05:44,877 --> 00:05:47,246 AND THEN WHEN YOU GET OUT HERE, 185 00:05:47,246 --> 00:05:48,681 IT'S ANYTHING BUT THAT. 186 00:05:48,681 --> 00:05:52,418 SO REALLY, IT'S FINDING A WAY TO 187 00:05:52,418 --> 00:05:55,088 CREATE STRUCTURE, WHERE THERE IS 188 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:55,388 NONE. 189 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:57,056 AND LIKE I SAID, OUTSIDE OF 190 00:05:57,056 --> 00:05:58,157 HAVING EACH OTHER, THAT'S 191 00:05:58,157 --> 00:05:59,859 PROBABLY THE SECOND MOST 192 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:01,461 IMPORTANT THING I CAN THINK OF 193 00:06:01,461 --> 00:06:03,029 US FOR PERSONALLY. 194 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:04,464 >> STRUCTURE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE 195 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:05,965 THAT ELEMENT OF CONNECTION, 196 00:06:05,965 --> 00:06:07,100 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE 197 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,702 SO CLOSE, HAVING THAT SORT OF 198 00:06:09,702 --> 00:06:11,003 FAMILY ASPECT, IS SOMETHING 199 00:06:11,003 --> 00:06:12,805 THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO 200 00:06:12,805 --> 00:06:13,873 MAINTAIN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE 201 00:06:13,873 --> 00:06:14,841 TOUR. 202 00:06:14,841 --> 00:06:16,209 IS IT TRUE FOR JUST THE BAND, 203 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:18,377 TOO, OR EVEN YOUR OWN FAMILIES? 204 00:06:18,377 --> 00:06:19,712 I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF 205 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:21,414 BOTH, DEFINITELY WITH THE BAND 206 00:06:21,414 --> 00:06:23,483 BECAUSE WE SPEND MORE TIME WITH 207 00:06:23,483 --> 00:06:24,884 EACH OTHER THAN OUR FAMILIES AT 208 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:27,320 HOME, THREE OUT OF FOUR OF US 209 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,454 ARE MARRIED AND THREE OUT OF THE 210 00:06:28,454 --> 00:06:31,190 FOUR OF US HAVE KIDS, WE HAVE A 211 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:32,825 GREAT STRUCTURE AT HOME THAT WE 212 00:06:32,825 --> 00:06:34,227 LONG FOR AND MISS. 213 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,195 LAST YEAR, WE WERE HOME 31 DAYS 214 00:06:36,195 --> 00:06:37,096 OUT OF THE YEAR. 215 00:06:37,096 --> 00:06:39,465 WE ARE GONE LONG STRETCHES AT A 216 00:06:39,465 --> 00:06:39,966 TIME. 217 00:06:39,966 --> 00:06:41,367 BUT HAVING SUPPORT SYSTEM OUT 218 00:06:41,367 --> 00:06:43,402 HERE, AND THEN HAVING SUPPORT OF 219 00:06:43,402 --> 00:06:45,738 WIVES AND THAT KIND OF THING, 220 00:06:45,738 --> 00:06:47,473 AND WE'RE A LOT LUCKYIER IN 221 00:06:47,473 --> 00:06:49,008 SYSTEM THAT WE'RE NOT WAY UP IN 222 00:06:49,008 --> 00:06:52,378 SPACE, WE CAN GET OFF THE BUS -- 223 00:06:52,378 --> 00:06:53,546 BRING OUR FAMILIES OUT 224 00:06:53,546 --> 00:06:54,614 OCCASIONALLY, WHEN THEY HAVE THE 225 00:06:54,614 --> 00:06:54,981 OPPORTUNITY. 226 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:58,818 SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE TIMES HELP 227 00:06:58,818 --> 00:07:01,354 BUT LIKE ERIC SAID, WE HAVE A 228 00:07:01,354 --> 00:07:03,723 SUPPORT GROUP, THE MONOTONY, THE 229 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:05,525 BACKSTAGE OF ANY VENUE LOOKS THE 230 00:07:05,525 --> 00:07:07,460 SAME AS ANY OTHER VENUE, IT 231 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:08,895 TURNS INTO A GROUNDHOG TODAY, 232 00:07:08,895 --> 00:07:10,129 TODAY WE'RE IN A HOTEL, TOMORROW 233 00:07:10,129 --> 00:07:10,830 IS THE SHOW. 234 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:12,298 THE SAME THING, HERE'S THE SHOW 235 00:07:12,298 --> 00:07:14,400 TIME, HERE'S YOUR MEET-AND-GREET 236 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,035 TIMES AND IT BECOMES REALLY 237 00:07:16,035 --> 00:07:17,103 MUNDANE AND IF YOU DON'T FIND 238 00:07:17,103 --> 00:07:18,938 SOMETHING TO DO, ALONG WITH 239 00:07:18,938 --> 00:07:20,640 CREATING WORK FOR OURSELVES, 240 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,475 BIGGEST THING IS OUR HEALTH 241 00:07:22,475 --> 00:07:23,543 ASPECT AND TAKING CARE OF 242 00:07:23,543 --> 00:07:24,744 OURSELVES, WE MAKE AN EFFORT NOW 243 00:07:24,744 --> 00:07:25,912 TO WORK OUT TOGETHER EVERY 244 00:07:25,912 --> 00:07:27,413 SINGLE SHOW DAY, WE WORK ON THE 245 00:07:27,413 --> 00:07:28,881 DAYS OFF, HAVING THAT EXERCISE 246 00:07:28,881 --> 00:07:31,117 IS PROBABLY KEPT A LOT OF THOSE 247 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:33,920 OLDER DEMONS AT BAY. 248 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,521 >> I'M HEARING A LOT OF 249 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:37,123 PARALLELS WHEN IT COMES TO 250 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:37,490 SPACEFLIGHT. 251 00:07:37,490 --> 00:07:38,724 HOW DOES THAT COMPARE FROM WHAT 252 00:07:38,724 --> 00:07:39,525 YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT WHAT 253 00:07:39,525 --> 00:07:41,227 SHINEDOWN IS GOING THROUGH AS A 254 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:42,128 TOURING ROCK BAND? 255 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:43,529 WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THE SPACE 256 00:07:43,529 --> 00:07:43,830 STATION? 257 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:46,132 >> THERE'S A LOT PARALLELS AND 258 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:46,933 DIFFERENCES, TOO. 259 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:48,334 DEALING WITH BOREDOM, FOR ME ON 260 00:07:48,334 --> 00:07:50,436 THE SPACE STATION, THAT SIX 261 00:07:50,436 --> 00:07:53,773 MONTH ROUGHLY PERIOD, I ASSUME 262 00:07:53,773 --> 00:07:55,374 WAS THE ONLY SIX MONTHS I WOULD 263 00:07:55,374 --> 00:07:56,642 EVER BE IN SPACE. 264 00:07:56,642 --> 00:07:58,110 AND IT FELT LIKE I COULDN'T 265 00:07:58,110 --> 00:07:59,579 POSSIBLY -- LIKE I HAD ALL OF 266 00:07:59,579 --> 00:08:00,780 THESE PERSONAL GOALS I WANTED TO 267 00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:02,782 DO, PICTURES OF PLACES I WANT TO 268 00:08:02,782 --> 00:08:04,851 TAKE FOR PEOPLE, PICTURES OF 269 00:08:04,851 --> 00:08:06,485 THINGS THEY GAVE ME TO TAKE THAT 270 00:08:06,485 --> 00:08:07,753 WERE GIFTS FOR ME LATER IN 271 00:08:07,753 --> 00:08:08,254 SPACE. 272 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:09,755 AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, EVERY 273 00:08:09,755 --> 00:08:12,959 SINGLE DAY WAS A LIST OF TASKS 274 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:14,927 THAT AT LEAST AT FIRST WERE ALL 275 00:08:14,927 --> 00:08:15,561 NEW. 276 00:08:15,561 --> 00:08:16,996 I MIGHT HAVE BEEN TRAINED ON 277 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:18,297 THEM, BUT TRAINED ON ONE THING 278 00:08:18,297 --> 00:08:19,599 FOR AN HOUR, AND TWO YEARS 279 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:21,000 LATER, YOU HAVE TO DO IT, IT'S 280 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,535 KIND OF HARD TO REMEMBER EXACTLY 281 00:08:22,535 --> 00:08:25,605 WHAT IT WAS YOU WERE SHOWN. 282 00:08:25,605 --> 00:08:27,273 THINGS LOOK FAMILIAR. 283 00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:30,376 BUT IT'S AN ENVIRONMENT, YOU 284 00:08:30,376 --> 00:08:32,044 HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN EXACT 285 00:08:32,044 --> 00:08:32,979 DETAIL. 286 00:08:32,979 --> 00:08:35,681 OR ELSE YOU BREAK SOMETHING THAT 287 00:08:35,681 --> 00:08:38,117 SOME SCIENTIST SPENT THEIR WHOLE 288 00:08:38,117 --> 00:08:39,151 LIFE GETTING TO THE SPACE 289 00:08:39,151 --> 00:08:39,719 STATION. 290 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:42,889 LIKE WITH MAKING MUSIC, BUT FOR 291 00:08:42,889 --> 00:08:44,624 ME, IT WAS THIS GRIND WHERE I 292 00:08:44,624 --> 00:08:45,858 COULDN'T RELAX, I COULDN'T FIND 293 00:08:45,858 --> 00:08:47,827 A TIME TO SLOW DOWN, I FELT LIKE 294 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:49,562 EVEN WHEN I HAD FREE TIME, HI TO 295 00:08:49,562 --> 00:08:52,298 MAKE AS GOOD USE OF IT AS 296 00:08:52,298 --> 00:08:53,466 POSSIBLE OR I WAS GOING TO 297 00:08:53,466 --> 00:08:54,100 REGRET IT. 298 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:55,301 MAKING CONTACT WITH FAMILY WAS 299 00:08:55,301 --> 00:08:56,936 HUGE. 300 00:08:56,936 --> 00:09:00,106 THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY CREW, 301 00:09:00,106 --> 00:09:02,541 CERTAINLY A VERY GOOD PARALLEL 302 00:09:02,541 --> 00:09:04,176 WITH WHAT YOU HAVE. 303 00:09:04,176 --> 00:09:06,579 WAS WITH FIVE OTHER PEOPLE, I 304 00:09:06,579 --> 00:09:08,481 RECALL VERY, VERY GOOD CAMPERS 305 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:11,217 TO SPEND TIME WITH IT. 306 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:13,753 IT WAS NICE BEING OFF THE PLANET 307 00:09:13,753 --> 00:09:14,620 WITH THEM. 308 00:09:14,620 --> 00:09:16,389 WE TOOK GOOD CARE OF EACH OTHER. 309 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:20,192 AND EXERCISE, TOO, ANOTHER 310 00:09:20,192 --> 00:09:21,694 IMPORTANT PARALLEL, THANKFULLY, 311 00:09:21,694 --> 00:09:23,829 PART OF THAT BUSY SCHEDULE 312 00:09:23,829 --> 00:09:25,164 INVOLVES TIME AND NASA SETS 313 00:09:25,164 --> 00:09:26,899 ASIDE FOR US TO EXERCISE EVERY 314 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:27,433 DAY. 315 00:09:27,433 --> 00:09:29,001 EVEN THOUGH, I FELT SORRY FOR 316 00:09:29,001 --> 00:09:30,870 MYSELF, RUNNING ON A TREADMILL 317 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:32,538 THAT WAS MOUNTED ON A WALL, 318 00:09:32,538 --> 00:09:35,007 RUNNING TOWARDS THE GROUND WITH 319 00:09:35,007 --> 00:09:37,076 BUNGEE CORDS ON MY HIPS AND 320 00:09:37,076 --> 00:09:37,576 SHOULDERS. 321 00:09:37,576 --> 00:09:39,812 YEAH, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT TIME 322 00:09:39,812 --> 00:09:41,047 FOR ME TO KEEP SANE. 323 00:09:41,047 --> 00:09:42,114 >> I CAN SEE A LOT OF THE 324 00:09:42,114 --> 00:09:43,149 DIFFERENCES, ESPECIALLY WITH YOU 325 00:09:43,149 --> 00:09:45,284 HAVING TO FIND FREE TIME, AND 326 00:09:45,284 --> 00:09:47,053 THEN YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF FREE 327 00:09:47,053 --> 00:09:48,487 TIME AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO 328 00:09:48,487 --> 00:09:49,221 FILL IT. 329 00:09:49,221 --> 00:09:50,723 BUT WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME IS 330 00:09:50,723 --> 00:09:52,024 WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE LENGTH OF 331 00:09:52,024 --> 00:09:52,458 TIME. 332 00:09:52,458 --> 00:09:54,093 AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I 333 00:09:54,093 --> 00:09:56,062 THINK CAN BE TAXING IN AND OF 334 00:09:56,062 --> 00:09:57,496 ITSELF, WHEN YOU'RE TOURING FOR 335 00:09:57,496 --> 00:10:00,132 SO LONG, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE -- 336 00:10:00,132 --> 00:10:01,500 I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE 337 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,602 TRYING TO FIND TIME TO FILL, BUT 338 00:10:03,602 --> 00:10:05,504 YOU'RE STILL BUSY, YOU'RE STILL 339 00:10:05,504 --> 00:10:06,572 ISOLATED, YOU'RE STILL WORKING, 340 00:10:06,572 --> 00:10:07,873 YOU'RE STILL ON TOUR. 341 00:10:07,873 --> 00:10:09,442 WHAT'S IT LIKE, THE LENGTH OF 342 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:12,878 TIME, HOW WAS THAT TAXING? 343 00:10:12,878 --> 00:10:14,580 >> I MEAN, THE LENGTH OF IT, WE 344 00:10:14,580 --> 00:10:16,615 TRY TO TAKE MORE BREAKS NOW, BUT 345 00:10:16,615 --> 00:10:17,717 I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE LAST 346 00:10:17,717 --> 00:10:19,218 YEAR, WAS REALLY HARD. 347 00:10:19,218 --> 00:10:20,653 BECAUSE LAST YEAR, LIKE YOU 348 00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:22,088 SAID, WE STARTED MARCH OF LAST 349 00:10:22,088 --> 00:10:25,124 YEAR, WITH REHEARSALS AND 350 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,927 LITERALLY GONE ALL YEAR AND 351 00:10:27,927 --> 00:10:29,228 OTHER THAN 32 DAYS. 352 00:10:29,228 --> 00:10:31,831 IT WASN'T LIKE 32 DAYS AT ONE 353 00:10:31,831 --> 00:10:33,966 TIME HERE, 5 DAYS HERE, 6 DAYS 354 00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:34,233 HERE. 355 00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:35,534 THAT LENGTH OF TIME GETS LONG. 356 00:10:35,534 --> 00:10:37,770 BUT HAVING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, 357 00:10:37,770 --> 00:10:39,338 US GETTING ALONG AND AT THIS 358 00:10:39,338 --> 00:10:42,742 POINT WE ENJOY BEING TOGETHER. 359 00:10:42,742 --> 00:10:45,177 SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER. 360 00:10:45,177 --> 00:10:46,846 SO WE'RE DOWN HERE, WE CAN FACE 361 00:10:46,846 --> 00:10:48,147 TIME, WE DO THINGS LIKE THAT. 362 00:10:48,147 --> 00:10:49,648 AND IT'S NOT -- YOU DON'T HAVE 363 00:10:49,648 --> 00:10:51,317 TO BE AT A CERTAIN TIME OF DAY 364 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:52,618 WHERE YOU GET A CONNECTION, I 365 00:10:52,618 --> 00:10:53,753 CAN'T IMAGINE BEING UP THERE FOR 366 00:10:53,753 --> 00:10:55,688 SIX MONTHS AT A TIME AND, YOU 367 00:10:55,688 --> 00:10:56,622 KNOW, THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN TIMES 368 00:10:56,622 --> 00:10:58,424 OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU 369 00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:00,459 CAN CALL OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 370 00:11:00,459 --> 00:11:05,064 WHEN YOU HAVE A CERTAIN TIME. 371 00:11:05,064 --> 00:11:07,466 I CAN CALL MY WIFE AT ANY TIME. 372 00:11:07,466 --> 00:11:08,968 THE PARALLELS ARE SIMILAR, BUT 373 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:10,236 VERY DIFFERENT ON DIFFERENT 374 00:11:10,236 --> 00:11:11,404 PLANES, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, 375 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:13,406 IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE EASE OF 376 00:11:13,406 --> 00:11:14,707 THINGS, LIKE THAT, BUT WHAT YOU 377 00:11:14,707 --> 00:11:16,942 DESCRIBED IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, 378 00:11:16,942 --> 00:11:18,878 BEING UP THERE AND HAVING A TASK 379 00:11:18,878 --> 00:11:19,945 TO DO, THAT'S HIM. 380 00:11:19,945 --> 00:11:22,782 YOU KNOW, THAT'S -- HE MAKES 381 00:11:22,782 --> 00:11:24,216 TASKS. 382 00:11:24,216 --> 00:11:27,053 >> THAT'S A VERY UNUSUAL -- 383 00:11:27,053 --> 00:11:29,055 INTERESTING PARALLEL, ABOUT NOT 384 00:11:29,055 --> 00:11:29,955 FEELING LIKE YOU HAD ENOUGH 385 00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:30,990 TIME, FEELING LIKE YOU ALWAYS 386 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:33,325 HAD TO BE ON THE GO WITH CERTAIN 387 00:11:33,325 --> 00:11:34,560 THINGS. 388 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,862 I DO THAT TO MYSELF AND IT 389 00:11:36,862 --> 00:11:38,964 STARTED AS A WAY FOR ME TO DEAL 390 00:11:38,964 --> 00:11:40,399 WITH THE DEPRESSION, AND IT'S A 391 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:42,935 WAY -- I WON'T SAY A HINDRANCE, 392 00:11:42,935 --> 00:11:45,371 BUT IT'S AN OCD THING FOR ME TO 393 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:46,372 WHERE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A 394 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:48,307 CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, FINITE 395 00:11:48,307 --> 00:11:49,708 AMOUNT OF TIME TO ACCOMPLISH 396 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:51,577 THINGS I WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, AND 397 00:11:51,577 --> 00:11:52,912 IF I'M NOT DOING THOSE THINGS 398 00:11:52,912 --> 00:11:55,414 ALL THE TIME, THEN I'M SOMEHOW 399 00:11:55,414 --> 00:11:57,383 BEING SLACK OR LAX OR SOMETHING. 400 00:11:57,383 --> 00:11:58,484 IT'S HARD TO RELAX SOMETIMES 401 00:11:58,484 --> 00:11:59,518 WITH THOSE THINGS. 402 00:11:59,518 --> 00:12:00,786 AND I WAS TALKING TO A FRIEND OF 403 00:12:00,786 --> 00:12:02,088 MINE THE OTHER DAY WHO SAID SHE 404 00:12:02,088 --> 00:12:03,889 HAD THE SAME THING, AND SHE HAD 405 00:12:03,889 --> 00:12:06,192 BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH HYPER MANIA, 406 00:12:06,192 --> 00:12:08,127 AND I'M SURE THE DOCTOR CAN FILL 407 00:12:08,127 --> 00:12:09,295 ME IN ON THAT. 408 00:12:09,295 --> 00:12:10,563 BUT IT SOUNDED VERY FAMILIAR 409 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:12,264 WITH WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, IT IS 410 00:12:12,264 --> 00:12:13,566 REALLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT 411 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:14,934 COMES WITH BEING AWAY, YOU KNOW, 412 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:16,635 AWAY FROM HOME OR SOMETHING, BUT 413 00:12:16,635 --> 00:12:17,837 ALWAYS FEELING LIKE THAT I NEED 414 00:12:17,837 --> 00:12:20,806 TO BE MOVING FORWARD AND 415 00:12:20,806 --> 00:12:22,108 ACCOMPLISHING THINGS. 416 00:12:22,108 --> 00:12:24,777 YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN LETTING 417 00:12:24,777 --> 00:12:26,879 THE -- BECAUSE WE HAVE A SAYING 418 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:29,315 OUT HERE, IT'S JUST A SAYING, 419 00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:30,850 BUT IT'S -- YOU STOP AND YOU 420 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:31,083 DIE. 421 00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:32,952 YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT ON THE 422 00:12:32,952 --> 00:12:34,120 BRAKES, WE CAN'T PUMP THE 423 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,855 BRAKES, WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING 424 00:12:35,855 --> 00:12:38,357 IN ORDER TO KEEP -- ME TO KEEP 425 00:12:38,357 --> 00:12:39,792 THE DEPRESSION AT BAY AND THAT 426 00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:40,426 SORT OF THING. 427 00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:42,027 SO I DID IDENTIFY WITH WHAT YOU 428 00:12:42,027 --> 00:12:43,762 SAID ABOUT FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE 429 00:12:43,762 --> 00:12:45,698 TO BE GOING ALL THE TIME, AND 430 00:12:45,698 --> 00:12:46,932 DOING YOUR EXPERIMENTS AND THAT 431 00:12:46,932 --> 00:12:47,600 SORT OF THING. 432 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,535 AND STAYING ON TOP OF IT. 433 00:12:49,535 --> 00:12:51,237 THE WORK I'M DOING MAYBE ISN'T 434 00:12:51,237 --> 00:12:53,873 AS SCIENTIFICALLY IMPORTANT, BUT 435 00:12:53,873 --> 00:12:54,974 DEFINITELY, I HAD THAT THING 436 00:12:54,974 --> 00:12:56,775 WHERE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO 437 00:12:56,775 --> 00:12:57,977 MOVE, MOVE, MOVE. 438 00:12:57,977 --> 00:13:01,280 AND MR. SMITH HAS JOINED US. 439 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,248 >> I'M SO SORRY. 440 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:04,517 I APOLOGIZE. 441 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:07,520 >> HE WAS NOT ON THE TREADMILL 442 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,256 ATTACHES TO BUNGEE CORDS, 443 00:13:10,256 --> 00:13:10,556 RUNNING. 444 00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:11,457 [ LAUGHTER ] 445 00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:13,125 >> I MOST CERTAINLY WASN'T. 446 00:13:13,125 --> 00:13:15,261 I HAD AN ALTERCATION WITH A 447 00:13:15,261 --> 00:13:16,695 POLAR BEAR. 448 00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:18,931 [ LAUGHTER ] 449 00:13:18,931 --> 00:13:20,499 IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING, I 450 00:13:20,499 --> 00:13:22,601 APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS. 451 00:13:22,601 --> 00:13:23,869 >> NO WORRIES AT ALL. 452 00:13:23,869 --> 00:13:24,937 WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. 453 00:13:24,937 --> 00:13:25,304 ALL RIGHT. 454 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:27,072 SO ERIC, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING 455 00:13:27,072 --> 00:13:29,141 ABOUT HAS TO DEAL WITH SORT 456 00:13:29,141 --> 00:13:31,410 OF, YOU KNOW, FEELING THE TIME, 457 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:33,412 KEEPING YOURSELF BUSY, MARK, 458 00:13:33,412 --> 00:13:34,313 WHEN YOU WERE ON STATION, DID 459 00:13:34,313 --> 00:13:37,716 YOU FEEL THAT THE BUSYNESS, THE 460 00:13:37,716 --> 00:13:39,385 RAPID PACE OF EVERYTHING ON 461 00:13:39,385 --> 00:13:41,120 STATION, DID KEEP YOU DISTRACTED 462 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,355 OR WAS IT MENTALLY TAXING TO 463 00:13:43,355 --> 00:13:45,658 HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS? 464 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:47,526 >> IT DEPENDED A LOT ON HOW 465 00:13:47,526 --> 00:13:49,328 SUCCESSFUL I FELT ABOUT KEEPING 466 00:13:49,328 --> 00:13:50,429 UP WITH THE PLAN. 467 00:13:50,429 --> 00:13:54,099 SO THE WAY IT WORKS ON THE SPACE 468 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:56,235 STATION, WE HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT 469 00:13:56,235 --> 00:13:58,804 THE GROUND -- THINGS LIKE MAKING 470 00:13:58,804 --> 00:14:00,539 SURE THAT THE ONE PLACE WHERE WE 471 00:14:00,539 --> 00:14:03,075 CAN CONTINUALLY LIFTING WEIGHTS, 472 00:14:03,075 --> 00:14:04,610 ONLY ONE CREW MEMBER IS 473 00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:05,811 SCHEDULED FOR THAT AT A TIME, 474 00:14:05,811 --> 00:14:07,713 FOR EXAMPLE. 475 00:14:07,713 --> 00:14:11,483 THAT SCHEDULE SHOWS UP AS A 476 00:14:11,483 --> 00:14:13,352 GRAPH WHERE EVERYBODY HAS GOT A 477 00:14:13,352 --> 00:14:14,587 LINE ON IT AND THE CURRENT TIME 478 00:14:14,587 --> 00:14:15,654 OF DAY IS A RED LINE. 479 00:14:15,654 --> 00:14:18,591 AND THAT RED LINE JUST KEEPS 480 00:14:18,591 --> 00:14:19,425 MARCHING ACROSS THE DAY AND 481 00:14:19,425 --> 00:14:20,893 YOU'VE GOT CHUNKS THAT ARE 482 00:14:20,893 --> 00:14:22,094 ACTIVITIES, AS YOU CAN CLICK ON 483 00:14:22,094 --> 00:14:23,629 THE ACTIVITY, AND THE SPACE 484 00:14:23,629 --> 00:14:24,563 STATION COMPUTERS, AND IT WILL 485 00:14:24,563 --> 00:14:26,131 TELL YOU, HEY, THAT ACTIVITY 486 00:14:26,131 --> 00:14:27,233 MEANS YOU DO THESE THINGS AND 487 00:14:27,233 --> 00:14:28,334 IT'S GOT STEP BY STEP. 488 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:30,202 IT'S KIND OF LIKE CHRISTMAS 489 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:31,537 MORNING, PUTTING TOGETHER TOYS, 490 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:34,006 ALL DAY, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 491 00:14:34,006 --> 00:14:36,875 AND THEN THE GOOD NEWS IS, AT 492 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:38,911 FIRST, WELL, THE CHALLENGE IS AT 493 00:14:38,911 --> 00:14:40,012 FIRST, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, 494 00:14:40,012 --> 00:14:42,548 LIKE, I DON'T EVEN -- WOW, I'M 495 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:43,749 NOT SURE WHAT THAT SENTENCE 496 00:14:43,749 --> 00:14:44,917 MEAN, LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING 497 00:14:44,917 --> 00:14:46,752 TOGETHER A TOY. 498 00:14:46,752 --> 00:14:48,587 BUT AS TIME GOES ON, YOU GET 499 00:14:48,587 --> 00:14:49,788 MORE AND MORE OF THOSE 500 00:14:49,788 --> 00:14:50,756 ACTIVITIES THAT ARE SOMETHING 501 00:14:50,756 --> 00:14:51,523 YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. 502 00:14:51,523 --> 00:14:52,558 AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WHOLE 503 00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:53,792 PLAN, OH, I GOT THAT. 504 00:14:53,792 --> 00:14:54,760 THIS IS ALL FAMILIAR. 505 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,361 >> YEAH. 506 00:14:55,361 --> 00:14:57,429 >> BUT AT THE BEGINNING, IT'S 507 00:14:57,429 --> 00:14:58,264 THE UNKNOWN PART. 508 00:14:58,264 --> 00:14:59,999 AND WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT THIS 509 00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:01,934 IS ONLY SCHEDULED FOR AN HOUR, 510 00:15:01,934 --> 00:15:03,469 IT TOOK ME AN HOUR AND A HALF TO 511 00:15:03,469 --> 00:15:04,670 GET DONE WITH IT, I'M WORKING ON 512 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:06,505 THE NEXT THING AND YOU KEEP 513 00:15:06,505 --> 00:15:07,473 FALLING FARTHER BEHIND. 514 00:15:07,473 --> 00:15:08,774 SO AT FIRST, WHEN THAT HAPPENS 515 00:15:08,774 --> 00:15:09,775 MORE FREQUENTLY, IT'S 516 00:15:09,775 --> 00:15:10,142 CHALLENGING. 517 00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:11,510 AS TIME GOES ON, YOU START 518 00:15:11,510 --> 00:15:12,678 GETTING AHEAD FURTHER AND 519 00:15:12,678 --> 00:15:14,613 FURTHER AND YOU'RE ABLE TO -- IT 520 00:15:14,613 --> 00:15:16,115 FEELS REALLY GOOD WHEN YOU'RE A 521 00:15:16,115 --> 00:15:17,249 LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE TIME 522 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:18,250 LINE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR 523 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:20,352 OTHER CREW MATES AND SAY, HEY, 524 00:15:20,352 --> 00:15:22,421 HOW ARE YOU DOING, CAN YOU USE 525 00:15:22,421 --> 00:15:23,722 HELP ON THIS? 526 00:15:23,722 --> 00:15:25,491 THAT'S THE BEST DAYS WHEN I'M 527 00:15:25,491 --> 00:15:27,393 HELPING OTHER PEOPLE AND NOT 528 00:15:27,393 --> 00:15:28,060 NEEDING HELP. 529 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:29,128 >> JIM, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO 530 00:15:29,128 --> 00:15:30,763 BRING YOU IN, YOU ARE A SENIOR 531 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:32,498 OPERATIONAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND 532 00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:33,599 THAT MEANS YOU'RE INVOLVED IN 533 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:35,100 THE DAY-TO-DAY STUFF, YOU'RE 534 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,902 INVOLVED WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING 535 00:15:36,902 --> 00:15:38,037 WITH THE CREW ON BOARD THE 536 00:15:38,037 --> 00:15:38,537 STATION NOW. 537 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:39,505 SO WHAT'S YOUR JOB? 538 00:15:39,505 --> 00:15:41,340 WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO HELP THE 539 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:42,341 CREW? 540 00:15:42,341 --> 00:15:43,142 >> A TERM THAT'S PROBABLY 541 00:15:43,142 --> 00:15:45,077 UNFAMILIAR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, 542 00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:46,412 OPERATIONAL PSYCHOLOGIST. 543 00:15:46,412 --> 00:15:49,581 ACTUALLY, IT'S A GENERAL FRAME 544 00:15:49,581 --> 00:15:49,848 WORK. 545 00:15:49,848 --> 00:15:52,351 WHAT WE DO IS WORK WITH 546 00:15:52,351 --> 00:15:54,520 PERSONNEL WHO ARE CONDUCTING 547 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,723 REAL-WORLD, HIGH-RISK MISSIONS, 548 00:15:57,723 --> 00:15:59,858 LIKE ASTRONAUTS, BACKGROUND 549 00:15:59,858 --> 00:16:02,561 COMES FROM THE DOD, A NUMBER OF 550 00:16:02,561 --> 00:16:05,331 OPERATIONAL PSYCHOLOGISTS WHO 551 00:16:05,331 --> 00:16:06,832 SUPPORT SOLDIERS, ALSO CONDUCT 552 00:16:06,832 --> 00:16:08,901 THESE HARSH AND VERY DANGEROUS 553 00:16:08,901 --> 00:16:10,436 MISSIONS. 554 00:16:10,436 --> 00:16:14,139 AND OUR ROLE IS TO, IN A SENSE, 555 00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:16,408 KEEP HIGH-FUNCTIONING PEOPLE 556 00:16:16,408 --> 00:16:18,577 FUNCTIONING AND HEALTHY. 557 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:22,414 SO WE REALLY TRY TO OPTIMIZE AND 558 00:16:22,414 --> 00:16:24,216 ENHANCE THEIR HEALTH AND WELL 559 00:16:24,216 --> 00:16:25,617 BEING, THEIR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 560 00:16:25,617 --> 00:16:27,186 AND WELL BEING. 561 00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:29,555 IN OUR BUSINESS, IT'S EASIER TO 562 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:30,889 PREVENT A PROBLEM THAN TO 563 00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:31,223 INTERVENE. 564 00:16:31,223 --> 00:16:32,524 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT WOULD BE 565 00:16:32,524 --> 00:16:35,094 VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO 566 00:16:35,094 --> 00:16:37,062 INTERVENE WITH A BEHAVIORAL 567 00:16:37,062 --> 00:16:38,030 HEALTH PROBLEM ON THE STATION. 568 00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:39,598 THERE'S CERTAIN LIMITATIONS IN 569 00:16:39,598 --> 00:16:40,265 WHAT WE CAN DO. 570 00:16:40,265 --> 00:16:42,134 SO WE HAVE A WHOLE SPECTRUM OF 571 00:16:42,134 --> 00:16:43,535 THINGS THAT WE DO TO HELP 572 00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:45,871 SUPPORT ASTRONAUTS, ONCE THEY'RE 573 00:16:45,871 --> 00:16:47,639 DEPLOYED ON STATION. 574 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,109 BUT OUR WORK REALLY BEGINS WELL 575 00:16:50,109 --> 00:16:51,543 BEFORE THEN IN THE LIFE CYCLE OF 576 00:16:51,543 --> 00:16:52,644 AN ASTRONAUT. 577 00:16:52,644 --> 00:16:55,280 SO WE'LL GET INVOLVED IN THE 578 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,783 EVALUATIONS OF THEIR 579 00:16:57,783 --> 00:16:59,551 SUITABILITY, APPLICANT'S 580 00:16:59,551 --> 00:17:00,719 SUITABILITY TO BECOME AN 581 00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:01,754 ASTRONAUT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE 582 00:17:01,754 --> 00:17:03,355 BEST WAYS FOR US TO PREVENT 583 00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:05,023 PROBLEM IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 584 00:17:05,023 --> 00:17:10,262 HAVE ONLY FOLKS WHO ARE 585 00:17:10,262 --> 00:17:12,598 PSYCHOLOGICALLY SUITABLE TO DO 586 00:17:12,598 --> 00:17:16,301 THE WORK OF AN ASTRONAUT, OR A 587 00:17:16,301 --> 00:17:18,971 SPECIAL OPERATION SOLDIER OR ONE 588 00:17:18,971 --> 00:17:21,907 OF THE OTHER KINDS OF SPECIAL 589 00:17:21,907 --> 00:17:25,411 JOBS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT 590 00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:26,478 INVOLVE HIGH RISK AND HIGH 591 00:17:26,478 --> 00:17:30,015 STRESS. 592 00:17:30,015 --> 00:17:31,917 SO OUR WORK BEGINS VERY EARLY ON 593 00:17:31,917 --> 00:17:32,951 IN TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT 594 00:17:32,951 --> 00:17:34,420 PERSON FOR THE JOB. 595 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:37,389 ONCE THAT PART IS DONE, WE GET 596 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:39,091 INVOLVED IN THE TRAINING OF 597 00:17:39,091 --> 00:17:41,393 ASTRONAUTS FROM A BEHAVIORAL 598 00:17:41,393 --> 00:17:42,795 HEALTH PERSPECTIVE. 599 00:17:42,795 --> 00:17:45,998 AND HERE AT NASA, WE TRAIN IN 600 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:48,901 ASPECTS OF WHAT WE CALL 601 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:50,903 EXPEDITIONARY SKILLS, WHICH 602 00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:54,239 REALLY TAKE THE MANY 603 00:17:54,239 --> 00:17:55,841 COMPETENCIES LIKE PEOPLE LIKE 604 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:58,410 MARK HAVE AND TRY TO DEVELOP 605 00:17:58,410 --> 00:18:00,279 THOSE IN AREAS THAT ARE 606 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:02,614 IMPORTANT TO LIVING AND WORKING 607 00:18:02,614 --> 00:18:04,616 IN SPACE FOR LONG PERIODS OF 608 00:18:04,616 --> 00:18:04,883 TIME. 609 00:18:04,883 --> 00:18:09,221 AND SO WE WILL WORK ON -- SOME 610 00:18:09,221 --> 00:18:11,457 OF THE VERY THINGS THAT YOU GUYS 611 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:12,624 WERE TALKING ABOUT. 612 00:18:12,624 --> 00:18:15,727 AND WE TRAIN AND EDUCATE IN 613 00:18:15,727 --> 00:18:17,696 THOSE AREAS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, 614 00:18:17,696 --> 00:18:19,565 THE IMPORTANCE OF SELF-CARE, 615 00:18:19,565 --> 00:18:20,933 TAKING CARE OF YOURSELF WHEN YOU 616 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:23,135 ARE ON THE ROAD. 617 00:18:23,135 --> 00:18:24,803 THE SAME AS AN ASTRONAUT. 618 00:18:24,803 --> 00:18:26,705 PROVIDING THAT SELF-CARE IS VERY 619 00:18:26,705 --> 00:18:28,073 IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN 620 00:18:28,073 --> 00:18:30,175 THE RESERVES THAT YOU NEED TO 621 00:18:30,175 --> 00:18:33,979 PERFORM EFFECTIVELY ON THE JOB. 622 00:18:33,979 --> 00:18:37,115 AS MARK HAS SAID, AND AS YOU 623 00:18:37,115 --> 00:18:38,350 PROBABLY HAVE FIGURED OUT, THE 624 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:39,585 SPACE ENVIRONMENT IS A VERY 625 00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:40,486 DEPLETING ENVIRONMENT. 626 00:18:40,486 --> 00:18:43,789 IT TAKES A LOT OF YOUR PHYSICAL 627 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:45,624 AND MENTAL ENERGY AND SO YOU 628 00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,326 HAVE TO WORK REALLY HARD TO DO 629 00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:47,593 THAT. 630 00:18:47,593 --> 00:18:49,695 SO WE HAVE ANOTHER PART OF OUR 631 00:18:49,695 --> 00:18:51,630 JOB, WHERE WE WILL BE INVOLVED 632 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,299 WITH ASTRONAUTS ONCE THEY ARE 633 00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:56,068 DEPLOYED ON STATION, AND THROUGH 634 00:18:56,068 --> 00:18:57,569 A SERIES OF COUNTER MEASURES 635 00:18:57,569 --> 00:18:59,037 THAT ARE DEPLOYED ON STATION AS 636 00:18:59,037 --> 00:19:00,572 WELL AS TIME THAT WE GET TO TALK 637 00:19:00,572 --> 00:19:01,707 WITH THEM. 638 00:19:01,707 --> 00:19:03,475 AND SOMETHING WE CALL A PRIVATE 639 00:19:03,475 --> 00:19:04,176 PSYCHOLOGICAL CONFERENCE. 640 00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:05,844 AND THAT IS PART OF A SPECTRUM 641 00:19:05,844 --> 00:19:08,514 OF SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO 642 00:19:08,514 --> 00:19:11,083 TRY TO OPTIMIZE THE BEHAVIORAL 643 00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:12,351 HEALTH OF OUR FOLKS. 644 00:19:12,351 --> 00:19:13,452 >> ONE OF THE MANY THINGS TO 645 00:19:13,452 --> 00:19:14,586 SORT OF KEEP THEM GOING. 646 00:19:14,586 --> 00:19:15,988 ONE OF THE THINGS I PICKED OUT 647 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:18,390 WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE TERMS OF 648 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:19,925 ASTRONAUT SELECTION, YOU'RE 649 00:19:19,925 --> 00:19:21,894 TALKING ABOUT THESE GUYS, MARK 650 00:19:21,894 --> 00:19:23,161 INCLUDED, WERE SELECTED FOR A 651 00:19:23,161 --> 00:19:25,597 PURPOSE, THEY ARE READY FOR 652 00:19:25,597 --> 00:19:26,999 SPACEFLIGHT, THEY ARE NOT ONLY 653 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:28,367 PHYSICALLY AND THEY HAVE THE 654 00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:29,768 KNOWLEDGE, BUT THEY'RE MENTALLY 655 00:19:29,768 --> 00:19:31,270 READY FOR THAT. 656 00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:32,638 SHINEDOWN, WHEN IT COMES TO YOU 657 00:19:32,638 --> 00:19:33,705 GUYS, GOING ON THE ROAD, YOU 658 00:19:33,705 --> 00:19:35,407 KNOW, I THINK CREATING MUSIC 659 00:19:35,407 --> 00:19:36,642 MIGHT BE ONE THING, BUT THEN 660 00:19:36,642 --> 00:19:38,844 TOURING AND PERFORMING MUSIC IS 661 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,879 ANOTHER THING YOU'VE GOT TO BE 662 00:19:40,879 --> 00:19:42,414 MENTALLY READY FOR. 663 00:19:42,414 --> 00:19:44,182 HOW DO THOSE THINGS COMPARE FOR 664 00:19:44,182 --> 00:19:48,387 YOU? 665 00:19:48,387 --> 00:19:49,187 >> WELL, WE DON'T 666 00:19:49,187 --> 00:19:50,856 CROSS-POLLINATE THOSE THINGS, WE 667 00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:52,958 DON'T WRITE MUCH ON THE ROAD, WE 668 00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:55,994 TEND TO TAKE TIME OFF TO WRITE. 669 00:19:55,994 --> 00:19:58,196 TOURING IS SO GRUELLING AND 670 00:19:58,196 --> 00:20:01,800 REGIMENTED. 671 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,036 IT PARALLELS WITH WHAT YOU GUYS 672 00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:04,403 WERE SAYING. 673 00:20:04,403 --> 00:20:06,672 WE HAVE A SAYING THAT IS EITHER 674 00:20:06,672 --> 00:20:08,106 YOU'RE BUILT FOR THIS OR YOU'RE 675 00:20:08,106 --> 00:20:10,976 NOT, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE MEAN 676 00:20:10,976 --> 00:20:13,679 IS YOU'RE BUILT TO DO THIS IN A 677 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:14,680 HEALTHY WAY OR YOU'RE NOT. 678 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,049 WE SEE PLENTY OF PEOPLE FALL 679 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:26,892 APART AND CAN'T HANDLE IT. 680 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,927 I THINK OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL 681 00:20:28,927 --> 00:20:30,395 PROGRAM, A LOT OF TRIAL AND 682 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:30,662 ERROR. 683 00:20:30,662 --> 00:20:32,097 >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY 684 00:20:32,097 --> 00:20:32,497 HELPFUL. 685 00:20:32,497 --> 00:20:33,465 >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY 686 00:20:33,465 --> 00:20:36,168 HELPFUL, ACTUALLY. 687 00:20:36,168 --> 00:20:37,769 IT WOULDN'T HAVE OR WOULD HAVE. 688 00:20:37,769 --> 00:20:38,470 >> IT WOULD HAVE. 689 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:39,071 >> I'M SURE. 690 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:41,773 BUT YOU KNOW, WE -- 691 00:20:41,773 --> 00:20:43,575 >> WE TRY TO NEVER GO TO BED 692 00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:44,810 ANGRY, BASICALLY. 693 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:46,111 I MEAN, IT IS -- 694 00:20:46,111 --> 00:20:46,478 >> SURE. 695 00:20:46,478 --> 00:20:47,613 >> IT IS DEFINITELY LIKE A 696 00:20:47,613 --> 00:20:50,749 MARRIAGE. 697 00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:52,451 WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING IT FOR TWO 698 00:20:52,451 --> 00:20:53,652 DECADES, WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH IN 699 00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:56,755 THE BEGINNING, IN THE VERY EARLY 700 00:20:56,755 --> 00:20:59,491 20s OF OUR CAREER, WE KIND OF 701 00:20:59,491 --> 00:21:01,493 GOT SOME OF THE CHAOS OUT OF THE 702 00:21:01,493 --> 00:21:02,961 WAY. 703 00:21:02,961 --> 00:21:05,998 AND AS WE GOT OLDER AND AS THE 704 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,533 CRAFT OF SONG WRITING AND THEN 705 00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,168 BUILDING THE PERFORMANCE STARTED 706 00:21:10,168 --> 00:21:12,437 TO GROW, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GO 707 00:21:12,437 --> 00:21:14,840 THE EXTRA MILE ON THAT, WE 708 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,041 STARTED JUST KEEPING EACH OTHER 709 00:21:16,041 --> 00:21:18,977 IN CHECK EVEN MORE, WE'RE VERY 710 00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:20,312 LUCKY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FOUR 711 00:21:20,312 --> 00:21:21,146 OF US ON THE ROAD. 712 00:21:21,146 --> 00:21:22,347 THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS WE'RE 713 00:21:22,347 --> 00:21:24,650 IN A POSITION IN OUR CAREER 714 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:26,551 WHERE IF WE WANTED TO RIDE IN 715 00:21:26,551 --> 00:21:27,519 SEPARATE BUSES, WE COULD. 716 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:29,321 IF WE WANTED SEPARATE DRESSING 717 00:21:29,321 --> 00:21:30,322 ROOMS, WE COULD. 718 00:21:30,322 --> 00:21:31,790 WE CHOOSE NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE 719 00:21:31,790 --> 00:21:33,725 WE ACTUALLY GENUINELY RESPECT 720 00:21:33,725 --> 00:21:34,860 AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER. 721 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:36,795 AND WE'RE ALSO ON THE ROAD 280 722 00:21:36,795 --> 00:21:37,996 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR, IF NOT 723 00:21:37,996 --> 00:21:40,332 MORE. 724 00:21:40,332 --> 00:21:41,733 SO FOR US, WE HAVE TO KIND OF 725 00:21:41,733 --> 00:21:43,902 KEEP EACH OTHER IN CHECK. 726 00:21:43,902 --> 00:21:44,403 >> YEAH. 727 00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:47,005 >> YEAH, I'M HEARING A LOT OF 728 00:21:47,005 --> 00:21:48,740 ELEMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN 729 00:21:48,740 --> 00:21:50,475 YOU GUYS STARTED, YOU JUST SORT 730 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:52,244 OF HAD TO HIT THE GROUND 731 00:21:52,244 --> 00:21:53,445 RUNNING, YOU KNOW, YOU STARTED 732 00:21:53,445 --> 00:21:54,479 MUSIC AND YOU WERE TOURING AND 733 00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:55,013 GOING. 734 00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:57,049 AND I THINK THERE'S SORT OF THE 735 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,818 PARALLEL, MARK, WHEN IT COMES TO 736 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:00,986 TRAINING, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT 737 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:01,987 NECESSARILY -- IT'S NOT LIKE YOU 738 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:03,689 GET SELECTED AND YOU GET 739 00:22:03,689 --> 00:22:05,290 LAUNCHED AT THE STATION, YOU ARE 740 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:06,825 PREPARING VERY MUCH FOR YOUR 741 00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:07,893 TRIP TO SPACE. 742 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:09,528 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT NOT 743 00:22:09,528 --> 00:22:11,396 ONLY FROM THE ASPECT OF ACTUALLY 744 00:22:11,396 --> 00:22:12,931 GETTING PREPARED FOR THE SYSTEMS 745 00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:14,366 PART, FOR THE SCIENCE PART, FOR 746 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,134 ALL OF THOSE PARTS, BUT FOR THE 747 00:22:16,134 --> 00:22:16,768 RELATIONSHIP PART. 748 00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:18,837 BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TRAINING 749 00:22:18,837 --> 00:22:22,541 WITH ARE THE PEOPLE YOU WOULD 750 00:22:22,541 --> 00:22:23,442 ULTIMATELY FLIGHT WITH. 751 00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:24,643 >> THERE ARE PARTS OF THAT AND 752 00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:26,044 PARTS OF IT THAT ARE NOT. 753 00:22:26,044 --> 00:22:26,344 >> OKAY. 754 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:28,880 >> WHEN WE TRAIN AS -- FOR 755 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,215 EXAMPLE, I WAS INITIALLY GOING 756 00:22:30,215 --> 00:22:32,784 TO BE ONE CREW MEMBER FROM THE 757 00:22:32,784 --> 00:22:34,920 UNITED STATES ON A RUSSIAN 758 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,954 SPACECRAFT WITH TWO RUSSIANS. 759 00:22:35,954 --> 00:22:38,657 AND SO MY CREW MATES LIVED IN 760 00:22:38,657 --> 00:22:41,093 RUSSIA, THEY WOULD TRAIN, I 761 00:22:41,093 --> 00:22:42,027 WOULD SHOW UP FOR A LIMITED 762 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:43,028 AMOUNT OF TIME AND TRAIN WITH 763 00:22:43,028 --> 00:22:43,328 THEM. 764 00:22:43,328 --> 00:22:44,463 BUT WHEN I WAS BACK IN THE 765 00:22:44,463 --> 00:22:45,630 UNITED STATES, I WAS ON THE 766 00:22:45,630 --> 00:22:47,566 SEPARATE SCHEDULE FROM OTHER 767 00:22:47,566 --> 00:22:47,999 ASTRONAUTS. 768 00:22:47,999 --> 00:22:49,668 SO SOMETIMES I WOULD CROSS PATHS 769 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:51,103 WITH SOMEBODY, BUT IT WASN'T 770 00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:53,271 LIKE I HAD A SHUTTLE CREW OF SIX 771 00:22:53,271 --> 00:22:55,507 PEOPLE IN ADDITION TO ME THAT 772 00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:57,442 WAS GOING TO TRAIN EVERYTHING 773 00:22:57,442 --> 00:22:58,844 TOGETHER, AT LEAST, ALWAYS DO 774 00:22:58,844 --> 00:23:00,245 SPACE WALK TRAINING WOULD BE 775 00:23:00,245 --> 00:23:01,646 FOUR PEOPLE ALL WORKING 776 00:23:01,646 --> 00:23:03,882 TOGETHER, MAYBE A COUPLE OF 777 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:05,784 PEOPLE COACHING THE PEOPLE 778 00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:07,185 TRAINING. 779 00:23:07,185 --> 00:23:11,423 WHILE THE PEOPLE ACTUAL I -- 780 00:23:11,423 --> 00:23:13,892 ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THE SPACE 781 00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:15,527 WALK WERE UNDERWATER. 782 00:23:15,527 --> 00:23:17,095 IT'S ISOLATED IN THAT REGARD. 783 00:23:17,095 --> 00:23:20,599 I WAS WORKING IN WASHINGTON, 784 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:24,402 D.C. AND SOMEONE SAID IT MUST BE 785 00:23:24,402 --> 00:23:26,238 MORE EXCITING AND I WAS SO 786 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:27,773 ENGAGED WITH GETTING THINGS 787 00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:29,841 DONE, MAKING DECISIONS AND A LOT 788 00:23:29,841 --> 00:23:31,076 OF PEOPLE CONTACT, LIKE I WAS IN 789 00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:32,711 THE MILITARY, THAT I SAID, YOU 790 00:23:32,711 --> 00:23:34,780 KNOW, ACTUALLY WORKING IN THE 791 00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:36,414 ASTRONAUT OFFICE IS LIKE BEING 792 00:23:36,414 --> 00:23:37,516 IN A STUDENT, WHERE I'M WORKING 793 00:23:37,516 --> 00:23:38,617 ALL DAY IN THE LIBRARY, AND 794 00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:40,352 EVERY NOW AND THEN I GO TO A 795 00:23:40,352 --> 00:23:43,855 CLUB MEETING, TIME -- TYPE OF 796 00:23:43,855 --> 00:23:44,222 THING. 797 00:23:44,222 --> 00:23:46,124 YOUR INDIVIDUAL SKILLS ARE GOOD. 798 00:23:46,124 --> 00:23:47,559 CERTAINLY, I CAN ALSO RELATE TO 799 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,461 I WAS IN RUSSIA TRAINING, WE HAD 800 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:50,862 HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE 801 00:23:50,862 --> 00:23:52,030 FROM THE UNITED STATES, WE WOULD 802 00:23:52,030 --> 00:23:53,331 LIVE TOGETHER, WE HAD OPTIONS TO 803 00:23:53,331 --> 00:23:57,602 LIVE IN ONE OF SIX COTTAGES AND 804 00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:58,937 THOSE COULD HAVE THREE PEOPLE 805 00:23:58,937 --> 00:23:59,971 LIVING IN EACH ONE OF THEM. 806 00:23:59,971 --> 00:24:01,439 AND IT WAS ALWAYS BETTER FOR ME 807 00:24:01,439 --> 00:24:02,574 WHEN I WAS LIVING WITH SOMEBODY 808 00:24:02,574 --> 00:24:03,742 ELSE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'D 809 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:06,044 WAKE UP, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION 810 00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:07,679 WHILE GETTING A CUP OF COFFEE, 811 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:08,880 TRYING TO STUDY SOMETHING, THE 812 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,849 OTHER PERSON HAD THE CLASS 813 00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:13,018 RECENTLY OR HAD THE CLASS WITH 814 00:24:13,018 --> 00:24:13,618 ME. 815 00:24:13,618 --> 00:24:16,822 IT WAS A MORE EFFECTIVE STUDENT 816 00:24:16,822 --> 00:24:18,223 AND PERSON WHEN I HAD THE 817 00:24:18,223 --> 00:24:19,524 CASUAL, EASY CONTACT, THAT'S 818 00:24:19,524 --> 00:24:20,525 JUST ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING 819 00:24:20,525 --> 00:24:22,727 PEOPLE IN THE PROXIMITY. 820 00:24:22,727 --> 00:24:24,196 >> WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT 821 00:24:24,196 --> 00:24:25,230 RELATIONSHIPS, I DO WANT TO 822 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:27,032 SHIFT GEARS, GO BACK TO MENTAL 823 00:24:27,032 --> 00:24:27,332 HEALTH. 824 00:24:27,332 --> 00:24:28,567 AND KIND OF READ SOME STUFF 825 00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:30,969 ABOUT MENTAL ILLS. 826 00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:32,437 OVERALL, ONE IN SIX AMERICANS 827 00:24:32,437 --> 00:24:36,474 HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS AND 4.2% 828 00:24:36,474 --> 00:24:38,476 OF ADULTS IDENTIFY AS HAVING A 829 00:24:38,476 --> 00:24:40,078 SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT 830 00:24:40,078 --> 00:24:41,213 SIGNIFICANTLY IMPAIRS 831 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:43,048 FUNCTIONING, A LOT OF THESE ARE 832 00:24:43,048 --> 00:24:44,616 18-25-YEAR-OLDS, TALKING ABOUT 833 00:24:44,616 --> 00:24:45,717 THE YOUNGER GENERATION. 834 00:24:45,717 --> 00:24:48,153 WHEN IT COMES TO ANXIETY 835 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,856 DISORDER, 3.1%, BUT THESE ARE 836 00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:52,157 2016 NUMBERS, THESE NUMBERS ARE 837 00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:53,692 KEEPING TO INCREASE, IT IS A 838 00:24:53,692 --> 00:24:56,361 TOPIC THAT IS VERY MUCH PRESENT 839 00:24:56,361 --> 00:24:58,396 BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE 840 00:24:58,396 --> 00:24:59,564 NORMALLY TALK ABOUT. 841 00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:01,199 SO, GUYS, YOU GUYS HAVE WRITTEN 842 00:25:01,199 --> 00:25:02,534 ABOUT MUSIC. 843 00:25:02,534 --> 00:25:04,302 WRITTEN IN YOUR MUSIC ABOUT 844 00:25:04,302 --> 00:25:05,370 MENTAL HEALTH, SHARED IT WITH 845 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:05,837 THE WORLD. 846 00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:06,938 TELL ME ABOUT WHAT THE -- WHAT 847 00:25:06,938 --> 00:25:08,373 YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE 848 00:25:08,373 --> 00:25:09,474 FACT THAT WE'RE NOT SHARING 849 00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:10,308 MENTAL HEALTH AND HOW IT IS 850 00:25:10,308 --> 00:25:11,810 IMPORTANT TO BRING THIS UP AND 851 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:14,179 TO TALK ABOUT IT? 852 00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:17,415 >> I THINK IT'S -- IT'S SAD THAT 853 00:25:17,415 --> 00:25:19,718 YOU CAN -- YOU BREAK YOUR LEG, 854 00:25:19,718 --> 00:25:21,887 GO TO THE DOCTOR, GET FIXED. 855 00:25:21,887 --> 00:25:23,188 AND YOU WALK AROUND ON CRUTCHES 856 00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:24,689 AND THE WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE 857 00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:27,859 YOU'RE ON CRUTCHES AND EVERYBODY 858 00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:29,828 IS SYMPATHETIC TO YOUR PLIGHT 859 00:25:29,828 --> 00:25:32,497 AND YOU KNOW, OFFERING YOU, YOU 860 00:25:32,497 --> 00:25:34,199 KNOW, GOOD WILL AND HOPE YOU GET 861 00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:35,333 WELL SOON AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 862 00:25:35,333 --> 00:25:37,769 AND IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT 863 00:25:37,769 --> 00:25:39,437 WITH HAVING DEPRESSION, AT LEAST 864 00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:42,874 FOR ME, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME 865 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,210 I'VE EVER TALKED ABOUT IT, 866 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:46,711 REALLY, WHEN WE DID THE MOST 867 00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:49,314 CURRENT RECORD, BECAUSE BRENT, 868 00:25:49,314 --> 00:25:50,815 YOU KNOW, BRENT AND I WERE 869 00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:52,284 WRITING A SONG TOGETHER AND HE 870 00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:53,318 BROUGHT THE SONG IN AND IT WAS 871 00:25:53,318 --> 00:25:55,287 ABOUT, HE HAD WRITTEN LYRICS 872 00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:56,521 ABOUT ME AND WHAT I GO THROUGH. 873 00:25:56,521 --> 00:25:57,389 IT WAS VERY PERSONAL. 874 00:25:57,389 --> 00:26:00,592 SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD ALWAYS 875 00:26:00,592 --> 00:26:01,860 CHOSEN TO KEEP THOSE THINGS 876 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:03,962 BETWEEN MY WIFE, MYSELF AND MY 877 00:26:03,962 --> 00:26:06,531 FRIENDS AND WAS REALLY IT. 878 00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:09,834 BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS 879 00:26:09,834 --> 00:26:10,869 EMBARRASSED ABOUT IT TO AN 880 00:26:10,869 --> 00:26:11,536 EXTENT. 881 00:26:11,536 --> 00:26:13,204 YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW THE CHINK 882 00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:16,541 IN THE ARMOR, THE SCARS AND THE 883 00:26:16,541 --> 00:26:19,177 IMPERFECTIONS IN YOUR MIND. 884 00:26:19,177 --> 00:26:20,478 AND BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A PERSONAL 885 00:26:20,478 --> 00:26:20,879 THING. 886 00:26:20,879 --> 00:26:24,616 AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE 887 00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:26,418 STIGMA COMES FROM, IS NOBODY 888 00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:28,186 WANTS TO SHOW ANY MENTAL 889 00:26:28,186 --> 00:26:31,022 WEAKNESS, WE'RE NOT A SOCIETY 890 00:26:31,022 --> 00:26:32,490 THAT SMILES ON THAT THING. 891 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:33,858 IT'S NOT A WEAKNESS, BUT YOU 892 00:26:33,858 --> 00:26:36,027 DON'T WANT TO SHOW ANY SORT OF 893 00:26:36,027 --> 00:26:39,631 IMPERFECTIONS, LET'S SAY. 894 00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:43,234 AND IT'S -- YOU KNOW, I REALLY 895 00:26:43,234 --> 00:26:44,436 THINK IT'S TIME TO START DOING 896 00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:46,771 THESE THINGS AS WHAT THEY ARE. 897 00:26:46,771 --> 00:26:50,709 JUST ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, 898 00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:52,944 PHYSICAL, CHEMICAL MAKEUP OF 899 00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:53,979 YOUR BRAIN THAT CAUSES YOU TO 900 00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:55,780 HAVE CERTAIN FEELINGS AND BE A 901 00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:56,181 CERTAIN WAY. 902 00:26:56,181 --> 00:27:00,352 THERE ARE TOOLS AND HELP 903 00:27:00,352 --> 00:27:02,120 AVAILABLE TO FIX IT, JUST LIKE 904 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,855 PUTTING A CAST ON YOUR LEG. 905 00:27:03,855 --> 00:27:08,827 YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT THE 906 00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:09,894 -- I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA HAS A 907 00:27:09,894 --> 00:27:11,463 LOT TO DO WITH THE WAY THE 908 00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:13,098 NUMBERS ARE GOING FOR KIDS, 909 00:27:13,098 --> 00:27:14,132 HAVING ANXIETY, YOUNG PEOPLE 910 00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:14,799 HAVING ANXIETY. 911 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,838 BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS SO HYPER 912 00:27:19,838 --> 00:27:20,472 -- 913 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:21,306 >> MICROSCOPED. 914 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:23,408 >> EVERYTHING SEEMS SO -- YOU 915 00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:24,909 KNOW, WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I 916 00:27:24,909 --> 00:27:26,011 WASN'T AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING 917 00:27:26,011 --> 00:27:28,613 ON A THOUSAND MILES AWAY FROM 918 00:27:28,613 --> 00:27:30,281 ME, AND NOW, IT'S THERE IN AN 919 00:27:30,281 --> 00:27:30,815 INSTENT. 920 00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:32,517 AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK 921 00:27:32,517 --> 00:27:33,985 THERE ARE ANYMORE PROBLEMS IN 922 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:35,820 THE WORLD THAN THERE WERE 40 923 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:37,722 YEARS AGO, I THINK THAT THEY'RE 924 00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:38,990 MORE PRESENT, THEY'RE MORE 925 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:39,324 AVAILABLE. 926 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:40,625 SO YOU FEEL LIKE THE SKY IS 927 00:27:40,625 --> 00:27:41,226 FALLING. 928 00:27:41,226 --> 00:27:43,461 AND IT CAN -- BELIEVE ME, I'VE 929 00:27:43,461 --> 00:27:46,898 HAD TIMES WHEN I JUST -- I SAW A 930 00:27:46,898 --> 00:27:48,433 LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I HAVE 931 00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:49,934 TO, I FIND MYSELF STARTING TO 932 00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:51,236 FALL INTO THE MOODS BECAUSE OF 933 00:27:51,236 --> 00:27:52,470 THINGS THAT I SEE OR WHAT PEOPLE 934 00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:54,039 ARE TALKING TO ME, OR THE WAY 935 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,240 PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT FRIENDS 936 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,443 OF MINE OR WHATEVER, AND ALSO, 937 00:27:58,443 --> 00:28:04,682 PEOPLE ARE MORE APT TO BE BRAVER 938 00:28:04,682 --> 00:28:05,884 ONLINE THAN THEY'RE GOING TO BE 939 00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:08,153 IN PERSONAL, EVERY DAY 940 00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:08,520 ENCOUNTERS. 941 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,789 I THINK A LOT OF THAT FEEDS INTO 942 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:12,757 THE NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING. 943 00:28:12,757 --> 00:28:15,360 AND, YOU KNOW, THE ANXIETY, 944 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,429 ESPECIALLY THAT PEOPLE FEEL, I 945 00:28:17,429 --> 00:28:19,264 CAN'T IMAGINE BEING A YOUNG 946 00:28:19,264 --> 00:28:21,933 PERSON AND COMING UP NOW AND 947 00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:24,436 EVERYBODY -- I SAY EVERYBODY -- 948 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,805 PAINTING A BROAD STROKE, BUT 949 00:28:26,805 --> 00:28:28,807 PEOPLE SEEM TO BE SO JUDGEMENTAL 950 00:28:28,807 --> 00:28:30,642 ONLINE, YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT 951 00:28:30,642 --> 00:28:32,377 INTO PUBLIC AND PUT YOURSELF OUT 952 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:33,878 THERE, AND IT COULD MAKE YOU 953 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,313 VERY MUCH WANT TO JUST STAY 954 00:28:35,313 --> 00:28:36,681 INSIDE. 955 00:28:36,681 --> 00:28:38,450 >> I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER 956 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:40,151 BIGGER PICTURE, TOO, THAT HE'S 957 00:28:40,151 --> 00:28:42,120 TOUCHING ON, WHICH IS THE FACT 958 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,789 THAT THERE IS -- THERE'S A 959 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:46,925 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING 960 00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:48,726 DEPRESSED AND THERE MAY BE A 961 00:28:48,726 --> 00:28:50,528 CHEMICAL IMBALANCE, OR THERE 962 00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:52,397 MIGHT BE A PHYSICAL ISSUE GOING 963 00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:53,331 ON. 964 00:28:53,331 --> 00:28:55,533 AND THEN HAVING A CASE OF THE 965 00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:55,834 MONDAYS. 966 00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:57,001 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 967 00:28:57,001 --> 00:28:58,336 LIKE THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN 968 00:28:58,336 --> 00:28:58,803 THAT. 969 00:28:58,803 --> 00:29:00,271 I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR ME, 970 00:29:00,271 --> 00:29:01,940 SOMETHING ABOUT, TWO-AND-A-HALF 971 00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:03,508 YEARS AGO, I HAD TO DO 972 00:29:03,508 --> 00:29:04,709 PERSONALLY FOR ME, IN REGARDS TO 973 00:29:04,709 --> 00:29:06,478 SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE ERIC WAS 974 00:29:06,478 --> 00:29:11,616 SAYING, ZACH HAS A GOOD QUOTE 975 00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:13,952 THAT HE KEEPS US IN CHECK WITH, 976 00:29:13,952 --> 00:29:15,920 LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE. 977 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,555 HE'S ALWAYS SAID, IT'S NOT ABOUT 978 00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:19,257 THE PAINTER, IT'S ABOUT THE 979 00:29:19,257 --> 00:29:20,391 PAINTING. 980 00:29:20,391 --> 00:29:22,660 SO IF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT 981 00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:24,062 EVERYTHING FROM ALL ANGLES, 982 00:29:24,062 --> 00:29:25,096 SOMETIMES, THAT'S DIFFICULT TO 983 00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:25,630 DO. 984 00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:27,265 BUT SOMETHING I STARTED DOING 985 00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:28,967 ABOUT I GUESS ABOUT A YEAR AND A 986 00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:30,502 HALF AGO, I HAVE TWO ALARMS WHEN 987 00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:31,169 I WAKE UP. 988 00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:32,871 WHETHER I'M ON THE ROAD OR I'M 989 00:29:32,871 --> 00:29:34,939 TOURING OR I'M JUST OUT IN MY 990 00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:36,774 LIFE. 991 00:29:36,774 --> 00:29:38,576 THE FIRST ALARM WAKES ME UP. 992 00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:40,478 AND THEN THE SECOND ALARM IS AN 993 00:29:40,478 --> 00:29:42,847 HOUR AFTER THAT. 994 00:29:42,847 --> 00:29:44,983 THE FIRST HOUR I'M UP IN THE 995 00:29:44,983 --> 00:29:46,050 MORNING, THAT'S MINE, I DON'T 996 00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:47,852 LOOK AT MY PHONE, I DON'T REALLY 997 00:29:47,852 --> 00:29:48,653 TALK TO ANYBODY. 998 00:29:48,653 --> 00:29:49,988 AND THEY KNOW WHEN I KIND OF 999 00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:51,890 COME IN, THEY KNOW THAT I'M NOT 1000 00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:53,491 BEING RUDE, HE JUST WOKE UP, 1001 00:29:53,491 --> 00:29:54,325 HE'S GOT AN HOUR. 1002 00:29:54,325 --> 00:29:55,260 THAT'S MY MEDITATION. 1003 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:56,094 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 1004 00:29:56,094 --> 00:29:57,228 THAT'S A WAY FOR ME CENTER 1005 00:29:57,228 --> 00:29:59,564 MYSELF, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? 1006 00:29:59,564 --> 00:30:00,899 THE PHONE ISN'T GOING TO GO 1007 00:30:00,899 --> 00:30:02,634 AWAY. 1008 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:04,068 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GONE 1009 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:05,603 TOMORROW, AND NEITHER IS 1010 00:30:05,603 --> 00:30:09,741 ANYONE'S COMMENTSES OR OPINIONS. 1011 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:12,110 YOU HAVE TO FIND FOR THE YOUNGER 1012 00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:13,511 GENERATION, TOO, IT'S SUCH A 1013 00:30:13,511 --> 00:30:15,847 DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S 1014 00:30:15,847 --> 00:30:16,648 INSTANT GRATIFICATION. 1015 00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:18,283 IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF 1016 00:30:18,283 --> 00:30:19,350 ADJUSTING AND YOU'RE ALWAYS 1017 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:20,752 GOING TO BE ADJUSTING, BECAUSE 1018 00:30:20,752 --> 00:30:22,120 YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT FOR YOU. 1019 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,288 AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 1020 00:30:23,288 --> 00:30:25,290 LIKE WHAT I MEAN BY IT IS, YOU 1021 00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:26,858 HAVE TO LIVE YOUR LIFE, YOU 1022 00:30:26,858 --> 00:30:27,859 KNOW, IN THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO 1023 00:30:27,859 --> 00:30:29,661 MAKE YOUR HAPPY FIRST BEFORE 1024 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:31,262 YOU'LL EVER MAKE ANYBODY ELSE 1025 00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:31,529 HAPPY. 1026 00:30:31,529 --> 00:30:33,164 I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET 1027 00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:33,998 THAT. 1028 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:35,133 BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE 1029 00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:36,234 GOT TO KEEP IN CHECK. 1030 00:30:36,234 --> 00:30:36,968 YOU KNOW? 1031 00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:39,671 AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, WITH ERIC 1032 00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,339 AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT WE WERE 1033 00:30:41,339 --> 00:30:43,875 DOING, REALLY, PUTTING OURSELVES 1034 00:30:43,875 --> 00:30:45,810 OUT THERE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A 1035 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:49,847 HALF, WITH WHAT WE DO, I LEARNED 1036 00:30:49,847 --> 00:30:50,949 MORE ABOUT HIM. 1037 00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:52,150 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 1038 00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,819 I LEARNED SO MANY WONDERFUL, 1039 00:30:54,819 --> 00:30:56,854 BEAUTIFUL ARTISTIC, YOU KNOW, 1040 00:30:56,854 --> 00:30:58,189 INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT HIM. 1041 00:30:58,189 --> 00:31:00,225 I LEARNED A TON MORE ABOUT 1042 00:31:00,225 --> 00:31:00,592 BARRY. 1043 00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:02,860 I LEARN A TON MORE ABOUT ZACH 1044 00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:04,195 AND WE LEARNED A TON MORE ABOUT 1045 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,231 EACH OTHER, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, 1046 00:31:06,231 --> 00:31:10,034 WE TALK TO ONE ANOTHER, HE 1047 00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:11,035 PINPOINT SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF 1048 00:31:11,035 --> 00:31:13,371 PEOPLE ARE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH. 1049 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:14,572 WHETHER YOU'RE YOUNGER, MIDDLE 1050 00:31:14,572 --> 00:31:15,807 AGE OR YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT 1051 00:31:15,807 --> 00:31:16,107 OLDER. 1052 00:31:16,107 --> 00:31:19,544 PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO FEEL 1053 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:21,913 ASHAMED BECAUSE THEY FEEL A 1054 00:31:21,913 --> 00:31:23,681 LITTLE OFF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I 1055 00:31:23,681 --> 00:31:24,082 MEAN? 1056 00:31:24,082 --> 00:31:25,250 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. 1057 00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:26,818 AND YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL 1058 00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:27,185 EMBARRASSED. 1059 00:31:27,185 --> 00:31:28,486 IF YOU NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY, 1060 00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:29,954 GO TALK TO THEM. 1061 00:31:29,954 --> 00:31:30,888 AND HERE'S THE OTHER THING, IF 1062 00:31:30,888 --> 00:31:32,957 YOU NOTICE OUT IN YOUR OWN LIFE, 1063 00:31:32,957 --> 00:31:34,359 EVEN IF IT'S A TOTAL STRANGER 1064 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,127 AND YOU CAN TELL THERE'S 1065 00:31:36,127 --> 00:31:37,862 SOMETHING OFF, MAYBE, GO UP TO 1066 00:31:37,862 --> 00:31:39,197 THAT PERSON AND ASK THEM HOW 1067 00:31:39,197 --> 00:31:40,064 THEY'RE DOING. 1068 00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:42,267 WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOSE IN 1069 00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:44,269 THE BIG PICTURE, DON'T LOSE YOUR 1070 00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:44,769 HUMANITY. 1071 00:31:44,769 --> 00:31:46,638 DON'T LOSE YOUR EMPATHY FOR EACH 1072 00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:47,939 OTHER. 1073 00:31:47,939 --> 00:31:49,007 BUILD EACH OTHER UP. 1074 00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,108 THERE'S NO REASON TO BRING EACH 1075 00:31:50,108 --> 00:31:51,109 OTHER DOWN. 1076 00:31:51,109 --> 00:31:52,377 EMPATHY IS A BIG WORD THAT COMES 1077 00:31:52,377 --> 00:31:54,078 UP A LOT WHEN WE'RE TALKING 1078 00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:55,413 ABOUT THESE THINGS. 1079 00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:57,015 IT'S SUCH A HUGE THING. 1080 00:31:57,015 --> 00:32:01,719 IS, YOU KNOW, NEVER FORGET, YOU 1081 00:32:01,719 --> 00:32:03,154 KNOW, THAT QUOTE, BE KIND TO 1082 00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:04,022 EVERYONE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW 1083 00:32:04,022 --> 00:32:05,089 WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH OR 1084 00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:07,091 WHAT BATTLE THEY MIGHT BE 1085 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:07,859 FIGHTING. 1086 00:32:07,859 --> 00:32:09,427 AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING 1087 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:10,662 THAT SEEMS TO KIND OF GET LOST 1088 00:32:10,662 --> 00:32:12,664 IN THIS AGE OF LIKE HE SAID, 1089 00:32:12,664 --> 00:32:14,932 HYPER TECHNOLOGY, HYPER SPEED, 1090 00:32:14,932 --> 00:32:15,933 AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 1091 00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:18,936 IS JUST BEING EMPATHYIC TO OTHER 1092 00:32:18,936 --> 00:32:20,538 PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY CAN BE 1093 00:32:20,538 --> 00:32:21,673 GOING THROUGH. 1094 00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:24,442 YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH A -- IT 1095 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:26,244 MEANS A LOT, I'LL TELL YOU THAT. 1096 00:32:26,244 --> 00:32:28,246 WHEN THESE GUYS COME TO ME, THEY 1097 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:30,448 CAN TELL WHEN I'M DOWN, IT 1098 00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:32,950 REALLY DOES HELP, HEY, ARE YOU 1099 00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:33,251 OKAY? 1100 00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:34,485 I MIGHT BE OKAY, I MIGHT BE 1101 00:32:34,485 --> 00:32:36,054 HAVING A TIME, AND I KNOW I'M 1102 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:36,587 OKAY. 1103 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:37,755 I'LL TELL THEM I'M OKAY. 1104 00:32:37,755 --> 00:32:39,257 BUT IF I'M NOT OKAY, I'LL TELL 1105 00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:40,224 THEM I'M NOT OKAY. 1106 00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:41,225 WE HAVE THAT KINDED OF 1107 00:32:41,225 --> 00:32:42,393 RELATIONSHIP AND THAT'S REALLY 1108 00:32:42,393 --> 00:32:43,494 IMPORTANT TO US. 1109 00:32:43,494 --> 00:32:45,463 YOU KNOW, AS A BAND, IS BEING 1110 00:32:45,463 --> 00:32:46,831 ABLE TO BE OPEN LIKE THAT. 1111 00:32:46,831 --> 00:32:48,966 I'LL HAVE SOMETIMES WHEN I GO AT 1112 00:32:48,966 --> 00:32:50,635 THE END OF THE LAST EUROPEAN RUN 1113 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:52,870 THAT WE DID, IT WAS GETTING -- 1114 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:54,872 COLD, IT WAS WINTER TIME IN 1115 00:32:54,872 --> 00:32:56,708 RUSSIA, THERE YOU GO, YOU CAN -- 1116 00:32:56,708 --> 00:32:58,142 YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M 1117 00:32:58,142 --> 00:33:00,211 TALKING ABOUT, SO IT'S NOT THE 1118 00:33:00,211 --> 00:33:01,612 BEST LANDSCAPE FOR DEPRESSION, 1119 00:33:01,612 --> 00:33:02,013 EITHER. 1120 00:33:02,013 --> 00:33:03,548 BUT I WAS SPENDING A LOT OF TIME 1121 00:33:03,548 --> 00:33:04,315 BY MYSELF. 1122 00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,417 AND WITHOUT A LOT TO DO, BECAUSE 1123 00:33:06,417 --> 00:33:08,986 WE WERE OVER IN EUROPE, AND I 1124 00:33:08,986 --> 00:33:12,090 DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE CREATURE 1125 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:13,624 COMFORTS WITH ME, I WAS GOING 1126 00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:15,026 PRETTY DARK, I WAS HAVING A 1127 00:33:15,026 --> 00:33:15,560 TOUGH TIME. 1128 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,731 ALMOST A SELF-IMPOSED ISOLATION 1129 00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:20,732 IN SOME WAYS. 1130 00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:22,467 I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE SEEING PEOPLE 1131 00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:23,334 AND THAT SORT OF THING. 1132 00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:25,937 AND THEY REALLY KEPT ME IN 1133 00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:26,237 CHECK. 1134 00:33:26,237 --> 00:33:27,739 THEY COULD SEE SOMETHING WAS 1135 00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:28,072 WRONG. 1136 00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:28,639 YOU KNOW? 1137 00:33:28,639 --> 00:33:30,074 AND IT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT TO 1138 00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:32,877 HAVE -- TO HAVE PEOPLE AROUND 1139 00:33:32,877 --> 00:33:33,611 LIKE THAT. 1140 00:33:33,611 --> 00:33:34,645 AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THAT 1141 00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:35,980 KIND OF LEADS US BACK TO SOME OF 1142 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:38,149 THE PROBLEMS WITH SPACE TRAVEL 1143 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:41,386 AND BEING ISOLATED FOR, YOU 1144 00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:42,253 KNOW, VAST AMOUNTS OF TIME, 1145 00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:43,755 WHERE YOU CAN BE ISOLATED, LIKE 1146 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:45,356 GOING TO MARS OR WHATEVER, 1147 00:33:45,356 --> 00:33:46,791 THAT'S RIGHT NOW, WITH THE 1148 00:33:46,791 --> 00:33:48,993 CURRENT PROPULSION, THAT'S SIX 1149 00:33:48,993 --> 00:33:50,027 MONTHS OR SOMETHING, JUST TO GET 1150 00:33:50,027 --> 00:33:53,064 THERE, YOU KNOW, IN A SPACESHIP 1151 00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:54,298 WITH YOU AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE. 1152 00:33:54,298 --> 00:33:56,501 THAT WOULD BE -- THAT COULD BE 1153 00:33:56,501 --> 00:33:58,569 REALLY MIND NUMBING, IF YOU'RE 1154 00:33:58,569 --> 00:34:00,304 NOT MENTALLY PREPARED, EVEN IF 1155 00:34:00,304 --> 00:34:00,772 YOU ARE. 1156 00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:02,807 LIKE I SAID, I'M BUILT TO DO 1157 00:34:02,807 --> 00:34:04,742 THIS JOB, I'M BUILT TO BE OUT 1158 00:34:04,742 --> 00:34:06,210 HERE ON TOUR AND IT STILL 1159 00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:07,245 BECOMES, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING 1160 00:34:07,245 --> 00:34:09,614 THAT THE INTERNAL BATTLE 1161 00:34:09,614 --> 00:34:12,016 SOMETIMES IS -- CAN BE PRETTY 1162 00:34:12,016 --> 00:34:12,383 DAUNTING. 1163 00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,051 >> I THINK A MAJOR THEME, WHAT 1164 00:34:14,051 --> 00:34:15,620 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ERIC, AND 1165 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:18,322 BRENT, IS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE 1166 00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:20,491 IDENTIFYING THESE THINGS, YOU'RE 1167 00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:22,193 RECOGNIZING THESE PROBLEMS, AND 1168 00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:24,095 YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THEM AND I 1169 00:34:24,095 --> 00:34:25,296 THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S 1170 00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:27,698 VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE HUMAN 1171 00:34:27,698 --> 00:34:29,233 SPACEFLIGHT SUCCESSFUL IS TO 1172 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:30,935 RECOGNIZE, IDENTIFY, WHAT COULD 1173 00:34:30,935 --> 00:34:31,736 BE THE PROBLEM? 1174 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:34,238 HOW COULD THESE THINGS BE 1175 00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:34,572 AFFECTED? 1176 00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:36,441 AND JIM, THAT PAPER YOU WROTE 1177 00:34:36,441 --> 00:34:38,075 WAS IDENTIFYING THESE ARE THE 1178 00:34:38,075 --> 00:34:40,144 RISKS THAT COULD -- OF 1179 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,279 BEHAVIORAL PERFORMANCE WAS THE 1180 00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:44,282 MAIN THING, MENTAL HEALTH AND 1181 00:34:44,282 --> 00:34:45,783 BEHAVIORAL PERFORMANCE FOR HUMAN 1182 00:34:45,783 --> 00:34:47,318 SPACEFLIGHT, WHAT ARE THOSE 1183 00:34:47,318 --> 00:34:47,652 RISKS? 1184 00:34:47,652 --> 00:34:49,554 WHAT HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED AS 1185 00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:52,323 RISKS TO THAT COULD AFFECT HUMAN 1186 00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:53,291 SPACEFLIGHT? 1187 00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:54,459 WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LEAPT ME 1188 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:56,127 SAY, THANK YOU -- LET ME SAY 1189 00:34:56,127 --> 00:34:57,261 THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE COURAGE 1190 00:34:57,261 --> 00:34:58,262 TO SHARE YOUR STORIES. 1191 00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:01,165 AND TO SHARE WHAT YOU ARE DOING 1192 00:35:01,165 --> 00:35:03,367 BECAUSE THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO 1193 00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:05,470 HELPING OTHERS TO COME FORWARD 1194 00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:06,971 AND GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED. 1195 00:35:06,971 --> 00:35:09,774 WITH FOLKS LIKE YOU, AND OTHER 1196 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:11,209 CELEBRITIES AND ATHLETES, 1197 00:35:11,209 --> 00:35:12,844 ACTUALLY DOING THAT, ROLE MODELS 1198 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:14,679 FOR KIDS, FOR EXAMPLE, REALLY 1199 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:15,713 STRUGGLING. 1200 00:35:15,713 --> 00:35:17,148 IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT YOU'RE 1201 00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:18,316 WILLING TO PUT YOURSELVES 1202 00:35:18,316 --> 00:35:19,116 THROUGHOUT AND DO THAT. 1203 00:35:19,116 --> 00:35:21,152 SO THAT OTHERS CAN SEE YOU AND 1204 00:35:21,152 --> 00:35:23,654 KNOW THAT YOU CAN BE SUCCESSFUL, 1205 00:35:23,654 --> 00:35:27,625 YOU CAN BE POPULAR AND GET HELP 1206 00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:30,161 AND REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT. 1207 00:35:30,161 --> 00:35:33,531 SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE KIND OF 1208 00:35:33,531 --> 00:35:35,199 PSYCHOLOGICAL ASPECTS OF 1209 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:39,370 SPACEFLIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE 1210 00:35:39,370 --> 00:35:41,539 TALKED ABOUT HOW HARSH THE 1211 00:35:41,539 --> 00:35:45,176 ENVIRONMENT CAN BE, PHYSICALLY, 1212 00:35:45,176 --> 00:35:46,978 AND TYPICALLY, AS WE THINK ABOUT 1213 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:49,380 EVEN THE CURRENT ISS, AND FUTURE 1214 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,316 MISSIONS, THE ENVIRONMENT IS ONE 1215 00:35:52,316 --> 00:35:57,455 OF, YOU KNOW, MICROGRAVITY, HIGH 1216 00:35:57,455 --> 00:36:00,258 CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS, SOCIAL 1217 00:36:00,258 --> 00:36:02,293 ISOLATION AND ISOLATION, SAY, 1218 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:04,695 FROM LOVED ONES, AND FRIENDS, 1219 00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:06,831 FAMILY, AND EVEN HAPPENINGS HERE 1220 00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:07,932 ON THE PLANET. 1221 00:36:07,932 --> 00:36:09,300 OUR CULTURE, WHAT'S GOING ON IN 1222 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,536 THE WORLD. 1223 00:36:11,536 --> 00:36:12,169 CONFINEMENT. 1224 00:36:12,169 --> 00:36:13,771 THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN'T STEP 1225 00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:15,239 OUTSIDE AND CATCH A BREATH OF 1226 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,474 AIR IF YOU REALLY JUST WANT TO 1227 00:36:16,474 --> 00:36:17,308 CLEAR YOUR HEAD. 1228 00:36:17,308 --> 00:36:19,310 IT'S HARD TO GETAWAY IN A SMALL 1229 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:20,478 ENVIRONMENT LIKE THAT. 1230 00:36:20,478 --> 00:36:23,681 AND EVEN THOUGH THE ISS IS A 1231 00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:27,285 WELL-DEVELOPED HABITAT FOR ITS 1232 00:36:27,285 --> 00:36:30,321 PLACE IN ITS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S 1233 00:36:30,321 --> 00:36:32,857 NOT LIKE BEING HERE, AND THERE 1234 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:33,991 ARE JUST CERTAIN THINGS THAT 1235 00:36:33,991 --> 00:36:37,228 AREN'T AVAILABLE TO OUR 1236 00:36:37,228 --> 00:36:38,029 ASTRONAUTS FOR COPING. 1237 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:39,830 AND SO THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT, 1238 00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:43,167 I THINK, IS, YOU KNOW, THE 1239 00:36:43,167 --> 00:36:44,735 STRESS OF PERFORMANCE THAT WE'RE 1240 00:36:44,735 --> 00:36:46,337 TALKING ABOUT THAT MARK WAS 1241 00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:47,004 TALKING ABOUT. 1242 00:36:47,004 --> 00:36:49,907 HAVING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING 1243 00:36:49,907 --> 00:36:53,811 TO WORK WITH THE PRECISION AND 1244 00:36:53,811 --> 00:36:56,914 WITH THE INTENSITY AND TAKE FOR 1245 00:36:56,914 --> 00:36:58,349 EXAMPLE, THE THREATS THAT 1246 00:36:58,349 --> 00:37:01,285 ARE, YOU KNOW, TO PERFORMANCE, 1247 00:37:01,285 --> 00:37:03,354 SAY, IN A SPACE WALK, MARK HAS 1248 00:37:03,354 --> 00:37:04,755 DONE, YOU KNOW, FOUR SPACE 1249 00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:05,723 WALKS. 1250 00:37:05,723 --> 00:37:07,124 THE INTENSITY OF CONCENTRATION 1251 00:37:07,124 --> 00:37:08,459 IN THAT REALLY DANGEROUS 1252 00:37:08,459 --> 00:37:09,827 ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU REALLY 1253 00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:11,295 HAVE THIS FEELING LIKE YOU HAVE 1254 00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:12,830 TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE 1255 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:14,765 DOING ALWAYS AND THERE'S NOT 1256 00:37:14,765 --> 00:37:16,367 MUCH -- THERE'S ALMOST NO ROOM 1257 00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:16,834 FOR ERROR. 1258 00:37:16,834 --> 00:37:20,504 AND SO ALL OF THOSE ARE KINDS OF 1259 00:37:20,504 --> 00:37:23,307 PSYCHOLOGICAL STRESSORS AND THE 1260 00:37:23,307 --> 00:37:24,542 ONES THAT WE GET MOST CONCERNED 1261 00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:26,510 ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OUR 1262 00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:28,045 ASTRONAUTS ARE TECHNICALLY 1263 00:37:28,045 --> 00:37:29,914 HIGHLY SKILLED AND VERY-WELL 1264 00:37:29,914 --> 00:37:31,482 TRAINED, ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS 1265 00:37:31,482 --> 00:37:32,617 THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE 1266 00:37:32,617 --> 00:37:35,786 ENVIRONMENT ITSELF, AND THE 1267 00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:38,022 CONDITIONS PSYCHOLOGICALLY. 1268 00:37:38,022 --> 00:37:40,625 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS 1269 00:37:40,625 --> 00:37:42,360 IMPRESSIVE TO HEAR YOU GUYS TALK 1270 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,861 ABOUT WAS SORT OF HOW A CREW 1271 00:37:43,861 --> 00:37:45,997 GETS ALONG, THE COHESION THAT 1272 00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:49,033 YOU FEEL, THE ATTENTION YOU HAVE 1273 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:51,235 TO OTHERS MORALE AND TAKING CARE 1274 00:37:51,235 --> 00:37:52,269 OF ONE ANOTHER. 1275 00:37:52,269 --> 00:37:55,373 THAT'S VERY MUCH WHAT WE ARE 1276 00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:56,741 HOPING OUR CREWS WILL DEVELOP 1277 00:37:56,741 --> 00:38:00,077 ON, OR TO HAVE THAT KIND OF 1278 00:38:00,077 --> 00:38:01,312 CONNECTEDNESS TO ONE ANOTHER, TO 1279 00:38:01,312 --> 00:38:03,648 WATCH EACH OTHER, TO TAKE CARE 1280 00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:05,950 OF ONE ANOTHER, AND TO DEVELOP 1281 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,219 THAT SORT OF BOND AND THAT'S -- 1282 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:09,954 THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FEATURE 1283 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:11,589 OF BEING ABLE TO COPE AND ADAPT 1284 00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:12,757 IN SPACE. 1285 00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:15,926 BUT IT'S A BIT OF A DOUBLE-EDGED 1286 00:38:15,926 --> 00:38:16,894 SWORD, BECAUSE MARK IS THERE 1287 00:38:16,894 --> 00:38:18,496 WITH FOUR OR FIVE OF HIS VERY 1288 00:38:18,496 --> 00:38:19,597 BEST FRIENDS AND THAT'S IT. 1289 00:38:19,597 --> 00:38:21,332 THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CALL 1290 00:38:21,332 --> 00:38:23,100 SOCIAL MONOTONY. 1291 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,236 SO YOU KNOW, CAN'T IMAGINE 1292 00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:27,471 HAVING THAT SORT OF LIKE YOU 1293 00:38:27,471 --> 00:38:29,440 DESCRIBED ON YOUR TOUR BUS, YOU 1294 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,442 ARE THERE DAY AND NIGHT, 1295 00:38:31,442 --> 00:38:33,477 TOGETHER, AND WHILE YOU KNOW 1296 00:38:33,477 --> 00:38:34,578 EACH OTHER VERY WELL, SOMETIMES 1297 00:38:34,578 --> 00:38:35,613 YOU JUST WANT TO BREAK. 1298 00:38:35,613 --> 00:38:35,913 RIGHT? 1299 00:38:35,913 --> 00:38:37,782 AND YOU WANT TO KIND OF TO HAVE 1300 00:38:37,782 --> 00:38:41,952 THAT ALONE TIME OR MAYBE TO TALK 1301 00:38:41,952 --> 00:38:42,520 TO OTHER PEOPLE. 1302 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,756 AND SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON 1303 00:38:45,756 --> 00:38:47,158 STATION THAT HELP WITH THAT, FOR 1304 00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:48,893 EXAMPLE, PRIVATE CREW QUARTERS, 1305 00:38:48,893 --> 00:38:52,663 THE ABILITY TO KIND OF GETAWAY, 1306 00:38:52,663 --> 00:38:54,265 GET INTO YOUR PHONE BOOTH SIZE, 1307 00:38:54,265 --> 00:38:56,534 I GUESS, CREW QUARTERS. 1308 00:38:56,534 --> 00:38:57,635 I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE KNOW WHAT 1309 00:38:57,635 --> 00:39:00,504 A PHONE BOOTH IS ANYMORE, BUT 1310 00:39:00,504 --> 00:39:01,505 SMALL. 1311 00:39:01,505 --> 00:39:02,006 YEAH. 1312 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,608 AND BUT TO GETAWAY AND HAVE SOME 1313 00:39:04,608 --> 00:39:06,343 QUIET TIME, TO RECHARGE, TO, YOU 1314 00:39:06,343 --> 00:39:09,113 KNOW, JUST BE A LITTLE BIT BY 1315 00:39:09,113 --> 00:39:12,049 YOURSELF. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO 1316 00:39:12,049 --> 00:39:13,417 TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF WHEN 1317 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:14,251 YOU'RE IN THAT KIND OF 1318 00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:15,286 ENVIRONMENT. 1319 00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:18,189 DESPITE THE ISOLATION THAT YOU 1320 00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:19,757 WE TALK ABOUT IN A VEHICLE 1321 00:39:19,757 --> 00:39:22,359 THAT'S ORBITING THE EARTH OR ON 1322 00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:24,428 ITS WAY TO THE MOON OR MARS, YOU 1323 00:39:24,428 --> 00:39:25,529 NEED PRIVATE TIME, EVEN THOUGH 1324 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:27,298 YOU ARE, QUOTE, ISOLATED. 1325 00:39:27,298 --> 00:39:29,366 SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW 1326 00:39:29,366 --> 00:39:31,068 THESE STRESSORS PLAY OUT. 1327 00:39:31,068 --> 00:39:32,136 NOW, WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE 1328 00:39:32,136 --> 00:39:34,371 HAVE, OUR ASTRONAUTS HAVE 1329 00:39:34,371 --> 00:39:35,506 AVAILABLE TO THEM, TO COPE WITH 1330 00:39:35,506 --> 00:39:36,941 THESE. 1331 00:39:36,941 --> 00:39:38,209 AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT ISOLATION 1332 00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:39,710 AND CONFINEMENT, FOR US, IT'S 1333 00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:41,312 SORT OF -- THINK ABOUT THE 1334 00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:42,480 OPPOSITE, HOW DO YOU NORMALIZE 1335 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,547 THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT? 1336 00:39:43,547 --> 00:39:45,382 SO THAT IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT 1337 00:39:45,382 --> 00:39:46,650 MORE LIKE HOME? 1338 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:49,520 AND SO WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A 1339 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,921 BUNCH OF COUNTER MEASURES 1340 00:39:50,921 --> 00:39:53,591 AVAILABLE TO OUR ASTRONAUTS TO 1341 00:39:53,591 --> 00:39:57,595 BE ABLE TO COUNTER ACT SOME OF 1342 00:39:57,595 --> 00:39:58,429 THOSE STRESSORS. 1343 00:39:58,429 --> 00:39:59,730 LIKE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL 1344 00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:00,998 HOME THAT YOU GUYS MENTIONED, 1345 00:40:00,998 --> 00:40:01,499 YOU KNOW? 1346 00:40:01,499 --> 00:40:03,033 YES, I'VE NOT THE SAME AS TAKING 1347 00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:04,769 YOUR CELL PHONE AND, YOU KNOW, 1348 00:40:04,769 --> 00:40:05,903 CALLING ANY TIME, BUT IT'S 1349 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:08,172 PRETTY GOOD, AS LONG AS WE HAVE 1350 00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:10,341 THE COMMUNICATIONS AVAILABLE. 1351 00:40:10,341 --> 00:40:13,677 WE ALSO ARE ABLE TO CONNECT OUR 1352 00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:14,845 ASTRONAUTS WITH THEIR FAMILIES, 1353 00:40:14,845 --> 00:40:16,247 IT'S ONLY ONCE A WEEK, BUT THEY 1354 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,249 GET A VIDEO CALL WITH THEIR 1355 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:19,183 FAMILIES, AND IT'S AN 1356 00:40:19,183 --> 00:40:21,318 OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN 1357 00:40:21,318 --> 00:40:23,120 THE FAMILY, BE WITH THE KIDS, BE 1358 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,688 WITH THE SPOUSE. 1359 00:40:24,688 --> 00:40:25,723 AND TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT'S 1360 00:40:25,723 --> 00:40:26,624 GOING ON AT HOME. 1361 00:40:26,624 --> 00:40:28,325 YOU KNOW, IT'S A WAY TO MAINTAIN 1362 00:40:28,325 --> 00:40:30,361 THAT CONNECTION. 1363 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,963 WE, YOU KNOW, PIPE UP CURRENT 1364 00:40:32,963 --> 00:40:35,432 EVENTS, MOVIES, MUSIC, THINGS 1365 00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:37,701 THAT ASTRONAUTS CAN USE TO STAY 1366 00:40:37,701 --> 00:40:41,172 CONNECTED HERE WITH THE EVENTS 1367 00:40:41,172 --> 00:40:42,273 DOWN ON THE EARTH. 1368 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:44,141 SO THEY DON'T GET THAT SENSE OF 1369 00:40:44,141 --> 00:40:45,776 ISOLATION AND CONFINEMENT. 1370 00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:46,710 >> YEAH, IT'S LIKE THAT FREE 1371 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:48,412 TIME IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, 1372 00:40:48,412 --> 00:40:49,780 HERE'S SOME TIME, IT'S ACTUALLY 1373 00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:51,782 IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT SORT OF 1374 00:40:51,782 --> 00:40:53,717 TIME FOR THAT MENTAL RELIEF, 1375 00:40:53,717 --> 00:40:55,085 WHEN YOU'RE SO BUSY ON THE SPACE 1376 00:40:55,085 --> 00:40:55,386 STATION. 1377 00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:57,021 MARK, WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER FROM 1378 00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:59,690 YOUR EXPEDITION ABOUT THE TEAM 1379 00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:01,091 DYNAMICS AND THE FREE TIME AND 1380 00:41:01,091 --> 00:41:02,293 ALONE TIME THAT YOU NEEDED 1381 00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,595 DURING YOUR STAY? 1382 00:41:04,595 --> 00:41:06,230 >> SO ONE OF THE TEAM DYNAMICS 1383 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:08,532 THAT MAKES ME SMILE WAS -- SO I 1384 00:41:08,532 --> 00:41:11,168 ENDED UP LAUNCHING WITH JOE AND 1385 00:41:11,168 --> 00:41:12,436 THE COMMANDER FOR THE 1386 00:41:12,436 --> 00:41:14,638 SPACECRAFT, AND I LOVE BOTH JOE 1387 00:41:14,638 --> 00:41:16,507 AND SASHA A TON. 1388 00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:17,741 BUT BECAUSE I SPENT MORE TIME 1389 00:41:17,741 --> 00:41:21,011 WITH JOE, JOE AND I WORKED OUT 1390 00:41:21,011 --> 00:41:22,813 -- I KNOW I CAN BE REALLY GOOFY, 1391 00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:24,381 OR OVERLY SERIOUS. 1392 00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:27,718 AND I TOLD HIM, HEY, IF I'M EVER 1393 00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:30,054 BEING TOO GOOFY, START TO BEING 1394 00:41:30,054 --> 00:41:32,957 A PROFESSIONAL OR TOO GRUMPY, 1395 00:41:32,957 --> 00:41:35,659 LOOK AT ME AND SAY MID RANGE, 1396 00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:37,127 BUT WHEN HE SAID MID RANGE TO 1397 00:41:37,127 --> 00:41:38,762 ME, I'D BE LIKE REALLY? 1398 00:41:38,762 --> 00:41:39,230 REALLY? 1399 00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:41,498 SO I NEEDED THAT FEEDBACK 1400 00:41:41,498 --> 00:41:43,400 MECHANISM AND THAT CRACKS ME UP, 1401 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,802 BECAUSE HE WOULD DEFINITELY BE 1402 00:41:44,802 --> 00:41:46,103 THE GUY THAT WOULD DO THAT. 1403 00:41:46,103 --> 00:41:48,072 AND THE OTHER THING WAS A SENSE, 1404 00:41:48,072 --> 00:41:49,607 WE HAD A LOT OF FUN GIVING EACH 1405 00:41:49,607 --> 00:41:51,075 OTHER A HARD TIME ABOUT STUFF. 1406 00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:53,110 AND I KNEW IF I DID A MINOR 1407 00:41:53,110 --> 00:41:54,879 THING THAT WAS IRRITATING, 1408 00:41:54,879 --> 00:41:56,380 INSTEAD OF GOING TO BED ANGRY 1409 00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:57,514 ABOUT IT, HE WOULD MAKE A JOKE 1410 00:41:57,514 --> 00:41:58,649 ABOUT IT AND IT WOULD OPEN IT 1411 00:41:58,649 --> 00:42:00,317 UP, IT WOULD BE -- GET IT OUT 1412 00:42:00,317 --> 00:42:01,285 THERE. 1413 00:42:01,285 --> 00:42:03,087 I WOULD KNOW THAT THAT'S AN 1414 00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:04,221 ISSUE, I WOULDN'T DO IT ANYMORE. 1415 00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:05,823 I PROBABLY GOT SOME FUNNY 1416 00:42:05,823 --> 00:42:06,924 STORIES I SHOULDN'T SHARE HERE, 1417 00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:08,425 ABOUT EXACTLY THE DETAILS OF 1418 00:42:08,425 --> 00:42:09,126 THAT. 1419 00:42:09,126 --> 00:42:09,493 [ LAUGHTER ] 1420 00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:10,761 BUT, YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY 1421 00:42:10,761 --> 00:42:11,562 HELPFUL FOR ME. 1422 00:42:11,562 --> 00:42:12,863 SOMEBODY WHO WILL GIVE ME 1423 00:42:12,863 --> 00:42:14,298 FEEDBACK, THAT I KNEW WAS 1424 00:42:14,298 --> 00:42:16,000 FEEDBACK FROM A GOOD PLACE, 1425 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,701 WHERE I KNEW THEY'RE ON MY SIDE. 1426 00:42:17,701 --> 00:42:18,702 AND THE REASON THEY WERE TELLING 1427 00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:20,471 ME THESE THINGS, IT MIGHT NOT BE 1428 00:42:20,471 --> 00:42:21,972 COMFORTABLE FOR ME TO HEAR, WAS 1429 00:42:21,972 --> 00:42:23,774 IN MY BEST INTEREST TO HEAR. 1430 00:42:23,774 --> 00:42:26,443 >> SO WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF 1431 00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:27,912 ALONE TIME OR FREE TIME FOR YOU? 1432 00:42:27,912 --> 00:42:29,246 WHAT DID YOU -- DID YOU NEED 1433 00:42:29,246 --> 00:42:29,613 THAT? 1434 00:42:29,613 --> 00:42:31,448 OR WAS IT -- YOU GET ENOUGH 1435 00:42:31,448 --> 00:42:33,317 SPACE WHERE IT WASN'T REALLY A 1436 00:42:33,317 --> 00:42:33,717 REQUIREMENT? 1437 00:42:33,717 --> 00:42:35,653 >> I DEFINITELY NEEDED IT. 1438 00:42:35,653 --> 00:42:35,953 >> OKAY. 1439 00:42:35,953 --> 00:42:37,721 >> WE HAD A RULE WHERE -- SO ON 1440 00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:39,523 A WEEKEND, WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME 1441 00:42:39,523 --> 00:42:41,659 OFF, BASICALLY, THREE HOURS OF 1442 00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:42,960 HOUSE CLEANING ON ANY GIVEN 1443 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,662 WEEKEND AND THEN IDEALLY, JUST 1444 00:42:44,662 --> 00:42:45,729 YOUR TIME. 1445 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:48,999 AND IF SOMEBODY -- IMAGINE THE 1446 00:42:48,999 --> 00:42:50,701 FOUR BEDROOMS, THE FOUR CREW 1447 00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:52,469 QUARTERS, THE LITTLE CLOSETS, 1448 00:42:52,469 --> 00:42:54,405 BUT ONE PERSON ON THE CEILING, 1449 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:57,141 ONE PERSON ON EACH WALL, ONE 1450 00:42:57,141 --> 00:42:59,777 PERSON ON THE FLOOR, LIKE PHONE 1451 00:42:59,777 --> 00:43:00,978 BOOTHS, THE DIRECTION DOESN'T 1452 00:43:00,978 --> 00:43:01,378 MATTER. 1453 00:43:01,378 --> 00:43:03,547 BUT THEY'RE ALL IN CLOSE 1454 00:43:03,547 --> 00:43:05,249 PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER. AND 1455 00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:07,418 IF YOU'RE AN ENERGETIC PERSON IN 1456 00:43:07,418 --> 00:43:08,652 THE MORNING, AND YOU WANT TO 1457 00:43:08,652 --> 00:43:11,522 HAVE A CONVERSATION WHERE YOU'RE 1458 00:43:11,522 --> 00:43:13,557 NEXT DOOR, IF SOMEBODY HAD THE 1459 00:43:13,557 --> 00:43:14,959 DOOR SHUT, WE KNEW THAT THAT 1460 00:43:14,959 --> 00:43:16,760 MEANT THEY NEEDED QUIET TIME, SO 1461 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,529 WE SHOULD TRY TO STAY QUIET 1462 00:43:18,529 --> 00:43:19,330 OUTSIDE. 1463 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:20,564 THAT'S A CULTURE THING WE HAD ON 1464 00:43:20,564 --> 00:43:21,098 THE SPACE STATION. 1465 00:43:21,098 --> 00:43:23,834 BUT THERE WAS TIMES WHEN I, ON A 1466 00:43:23,834 --> 00:43:25,502 SATURDAY MORNING, I MIGHT BE 1467 00:43:25,502 --> 00:43:26,470 FEELING WORN OUT, AND I WOULD 1468 00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:28,672 JUST BE THERE, HAD A LAPTOP IN 1469 00:43:28,672 --> 00:43:31,108 THERE, START WATCHING A MOVIE, 1470 00:43:31,108 --> 00:43:33,844 AND THAT WAS A NICE WAY TO JUST 1471 00:43:33,844 --> 00:43:34,445 DECOMPRESS. 1472 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:35,312 >> JUST TIME BY YOURSELF. 1473 00:43:35,312 --> 00:43:37,247 BUT YOU HAD THE WEEKENDS. 1474 00:43:37,247 --> 00:43:38,782 GUYS, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE 1475 00:43:38,782 --> 00:43:39,450 WEEKENDS WHEN YOU'RE TOURING? 1476 00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:42,252 [ LAUGHTER ] 1477 00:43:42,252 --> 00:43:44,621 >> WE GENERALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 1478 00:43:44,621 --> 00:43:50,227 TWO SHOWS ON, ONE DAY OFF, TWO 1479 00:43:50,227 --> 00:43:51,562 SHOWS, ONE DAY OFF. 1480 00:43:51,562 --> 00:43:53,163 WE GOT TWO DAYS OFF, WHICH NEVER 1481 00:43:53,163 --> 00:43:53,731 HAPPENS. 1482 00:43:53,731 --> 00:43:55,032 WHICH WE REALLY ENJOYED. 1483 00:43:55,032 --> 00:43:55,265 . 1484 00:43:55,265 --> 00:43:57,067 >> WE CAN GO GET A HAMBURGER. 1485 00:43:57,067 --> 00:43:59,503 >> WE CAN GO GET A HAMBURGER. 1486 00:43:59,503 --> 00:44:00,037 >> YEAH. 1487 00:44:00,037 --> 00:44:00,404 [ LAUGHTER ] 1488 00:44:00,404 --> 00:44:02,606 WE CAN'T -- WE'RE NOT UP THERE. 1489 00:44:02,606 --> 00:44:03,707 >> YEAH. 1490 00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:05,175 ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR 1491 00:44:05,175 --> 00:44:08,412 BOTH MARK AND DR. JIM THERE. 1492 00:44:08,412 --> 00:44:10,214 BOTH CHIME IN ON THIS. 1493 00:44:10,214 --> 00:44:12,316 SO FOR ME, ONE OF THE ISSUES 1494 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:14,918 THAT I HAVE BEING ON TOUR IS MY 1495 00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:15,219 HOBBIES. 1496 00:44:15,219 --> 00:44:17,087 SO MY HOBBIES THAT I LOVE TO DO, 1497 00:44:17,087 --> 00:44:19,289 THE THINGS I LOVE TO DO AREN'T 1498 00:44:19,289 --> 00:44:23,961 CON DEUCEIVE TO BEING ON -- 1499 00:44:23,961 --> 00:44:24,995 CONDUCIVE TO BEING ON TOUR AND 1500 00:44:24,995 --> 00:44:26,797 I'VE HAD TO KIND OF FIND 1501 00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:29,900 CREATIVE WAYS TO OCCUPY MY TIME. 1502 00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:33,637 IS IT SOMETHING WHERE MARK, DID 1503 00:44:33,637 --> 00:44:35,472 YOU HAVE TO -- DID YOU HAVE ANY 1504 00:44:35,472 --> 00:44:36,573 HOBBIES THAT YOU CAN TAKE WITH 1505 00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:38,809 YOU UP THERE OR JIM, DO YOU GUYS 1506 00:44:38,809 --> 00:44:41,578 GIVE THE ASTRONAUTS -- SOMETHING 1507 00:44:41,578 --> 00:44:43,514 THAT GOES INTO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL 1508 00:44:43,514 --> 00:44:46,016 TRAINING, CULTIVATING NEW 1509 00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:47,284 HOBBIESES THAT THEY CAN GET INTO 1510 00:44:47,284 --> 00:44:49,553 IN A SPACE ENVIRONMENT? 1511 00:44:49,553 --> 00:44:52,256 HONESTLY, THOSE THINGS, I THINK, 1512 00:44:52,256 --> 00:44:55,759 BRENT LIKES TO QUOTE DWAYNE 1513 00:44:55,759 --> 00:44:58,228 JOHNSON, THE ROCK A LOT, FIND 1514 00:44:58,228 --> 00:45:00,798 YOUR ANCHOR, FIND THAT THING IN 1515 00:45:00,798 --> 00:45:02,433 YOUR LIFE THAT YOU CAN ANCHOR 1516 00:45:02,433 --> 00:45:02,833 YOURSELF TO. 1517 00:45:02,833 --> 00:45:06,070 THAT'S A HARD THING FOR ME TO DO 1518 00:45:06,070 --> 00:45:08,705 IS FINDING YOUR ANCHOR ON TOUR. 1519 00:45:08,705 --> 00:45:12,342 ONCE AGAIN, DR. JIM, FIND 1520 00:45:12,342 --> 00:45:13,744 SOMETHING TO DO IN A SPACE 1521 00:45:13,744 --> 00:45:15,679 STATION ENVIRONMENT, OR MARK, 1522 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:17,581 YOU HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN 1523 00:45:17,581 --> 00:45:19,983 MAYBE WATCHING MOVIES THAT YOU 1524 00:45:19,983 --> 00:45:20,751 COULD DO? 1525 00:45:20,751 --> 00:45:21,885 >> ONE THING I BROUGHT FORWARD 1526 00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:23,253 WITH ME TO THE SPACE STATION, 1527 00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:24,621 READING, I LIKE READING, AND IT 1528 00:45:24,621 --> 00:45:25,689 TURNED OUT THAT IF I WAS 1529 00:45:25,689 --> 00:45:26,623 SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON A 1530 00:45:26,623 --> 00:45:28,625 SCREEN JUST BEFORE GOING TO BED, 1531 00:45:28,625 --> 00:45:29,893 I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FALL 1532 00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:30,461 ASLEEP WELL. 1533 00:45:30,461 --> 00:45:32,763 SO I IMAGINED TO CALL CARGO 1534 00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:34,531 TRANSFER BAGS FULL OF BOOKS THAT 1535 00:45:34,531 --> 00:45:35,666 OTHER PEOPLE LEFT BEHIND, 1536 00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:37,267 SOMEONE HAD SENT UP ON A CARE 1537 00:45:37,267 --> 00:45:38,836 PACKAGE, I STARTED READING A 1538 00:45:38,836 --> 00:45:40,170 REAL BOOK BEFORE GOING TO SLEEP. 1539 00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:43,140 THAT HELPED ME OUT A TON. 1540 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:45,008 BUT A HOBBY THAT WAS GREAT ON 1541 00:45:45,008 --> 00:45:46,176 THE SPACE STATION TO LEARN ABOUT 1542 00:45:46,176 --> 00:45:48,412 WAS PHOTOGRAPHY, BECAUSE WE HAD 1543 00:45:48,412 --> 00:45:50,380 A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY GOOD 1544 00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:51,782 CAMERAS, AND I MEAN, WITH LENSES 1545 00:45:51,782 --> 00:45:53,083 THAT WERE SO BIG, I PROBABLY 1546 00:45:53,083 --> 00:45:54,585 COULDN'T LIFT THEM ON THE 1547 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:54,885 GROUND. 1548 00:45:54,885 --> 00:45:56,086 BUT THEY OF COURSE THEY JUST 1549 00:45:56,086 --> 00:45:57,521 FLOAT IN SPACE. 1550 00:45:57,521 --> 00:45:59,256 AND A LOT OF GOOD ADVICE ON HOW 1551 00:45:59,256 --> 00:46:01,158 TO USE THE CAMERAS, INCREDIBLY 1552 00:46:01,158 --> 00:46:02,993 GOOD SUBJECT MATTER TO TAKE 1553 00:46:02,993 --> 00:46:03,961 PICTURES OF. 1554 00:46:03,961 --> 00:46:05,896 SO THAT WAS A NEW HOBBY THAT I 1555 00:46:05,896 --> 00:46:06,864 PICKED UP IN SPACE. 1556 00:46:06,864 --> 00:46:09,133 AND A HOBBY THAT I MISSED, I 1557 00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:12,102 LOVE WATER SPORTS, I'M A VERY 1558 00:46:12,102 --> 00:46:14,004 FLEDGLING SURFER. 1559 00:46:14,004 --> 00:46:17,141 I LIKE WIND SURFING AND I 1560 00:46:17,141 --> 00:46:18,742 COULDN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT 1561 00:46:18,742 --> 00:46:20,310 IN SPACE, AND I MISS THE FEEL OF 1562 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:22,779 THE WATER AND THE WIND AND SAND. 1563 00:46:22,779 --> 00:46:24,915 SO. 1564 00:46:24,915 --> 00:46:26,316 >> IT DID REMIND ME OF ONE THING 1565 00:46:26,316 --> 00:46:28,252 THAT IS PART OF OUR COUNTER 1566 00:46:28,252 --> 00:46:29,253 MEASURES, AND THAT IS SOMETHING 1567 00:46:29,253 --> 00:46:30,687 THAT WE CALLED A CREW CARE 1568 00:46:30,687 --> 00:46:32,022 PACKAGE, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT 1569 00:46:32,022 --> 00:46:35,726 LIKE EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE 1570 00:46:35,726 --> 00:46:37,628 -- EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. 1571 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:39,229 LIKE WHEN PARENTS MIGHT SEND 1572 00:46:39,229 --> 00:46:41,298 CARE PACKAGES TO THEIR CHILDREN 1573 00:46:41,298 --> 00:46:42,232 AT CAMP OR COLLEGE. 1574 00:46:42,232 --> 00:46:44,134 MARK GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THESE 1575 00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:45,869 BAGS, THEY'RE NOT VERY BIG, AND 1576 00:46:45,869 --> 00:46:48,005 SO THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN PUT 1577 00:46:48,005 --> 00:46:50,541 IN THEM, BUT TO THE POINT OF 1578 00:46:50,541 --> 00:46:52,442 SUPPORTING HOBBIES, AS YOU CAN 1579 00:46:52,442 --> 00:46:54,578 IMAGINE, IT'S QUITE LIMITED 1580 00:46:54,578 --> 00:46:56,313 BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. 1581 00:46:56,313 --> 00:46:58,749 YOU KNOW, AND THE CONSTRAINTS ON 1582 00:46:58,749 --> 00:47:00,017 THINGS THAT YOU CAN FLY IN 1583 00:47:00,017 --> 00:47:00,484 SPACE. 1584 00:47:00,484 --> 00:47:01,885 BECAUSE OF THE DANGER IT MIGHT 1585 00:47:01,885 --> 00:47:03,120 PRESENT TO OUR ASTRONAUTS. 1586 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,655 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE 1587 00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:06,857 HAVE SENT UP IN THESE CREW CARE 1588 00:47:06,857 --> 00:47:08,025 PACKAGES AND YOU GUYS WILL 1589 00:47:08,025 --> 00:47:09,927 APPRECIATE THIS, ARE MUSICAL 1590 00:47:09,927 --> 00:47:10,961 INSTRUMENTS, THERE ARE 1591 00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:11,495 INSTRUMENTS ON BOARD THE 1592 00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:13,230 STATION, AND YOU KNOW, 1593 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:15,532 ASTRONAUTS NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE 1594 00:47:15,532 --> 00:47:17,434 ME WITH HOW TALENTED THEY ARE. 1595 00:47:17,434 --> 00:47:19,069 THEY ARE FOLKS WHO CAN DO 1596 00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:20,370 MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS, 1597 00:47:20,370 --> 00:47:22,272 REALLY WELL. 1598 00:47:22,272 --> 00:47:24,174 AND I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. 1599 00:47:24,174 --> 00:47:24,541 [ LAUGHTER ] 1600 00:47:24,541 --> 00:47:28,011 SO I ALWAYS AM IMPRESSED BY HOW 1601 00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:29,112 TALENTED THEY ARE, AND WE'VE HAD 1602 00:47:29,112 --> 00:47:31,215 SOME REALLY TALENTED MUSICIANS 1603 00:47:31,215 --> 00:47:32,449 ON STATION. 1604 00:47:32,449 --> 00:47:33,750 AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE 1605 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:36,620 HAD FRENCH ASTRONAUT PLAY THE 1606 00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:38,255 SAXOPHONE ON STATION, WE HAD 1607 00:47:38,255 --> 00:47:39,223 GUITARS ON STATION. 1608 00:47:39,223 --> 00:47:41,692 AND SO FOLKS WHO HAVE MUSIC AS A 1609 00:47:41,692 --> 00:47:43,460 HOBBY AND PLAY MUSIC AS A HOBBY, 1610 00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:45,095 THERE'S ACTUALLY A NASA 1611 00:47:45,095 --> 00:47:47,397 ASTRONAUT BAND, I BELIEVE, MARK, 1612 00:47:47,397 --> 00:47:48,165 THAT -- 1613 00:47:48,165 --> 00:47:49,233 >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL 1614 00:47:49,233 --> 00:47:49,600 ACTIVE. 1615 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,335 BUT CERTAINLY HAD A COUPLE. 1616 00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:52,402 >> THERE ARE INSTRUMENTS ON THE 1617 00:47:52,402 --> 00:47:53,170 SPACE STATION, BELIEVE IT OR 1618 00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:53,403 NOT. 1619 00:47:53,403 --> 00:47:54,738 [ LAUGHTER ] 1620 00:47:54,738 --> 00:47:57,741 >> SO, JIM, WHEN YOU'RE -- WHEN 1621 00:47:57,741 --> 00:48:00,043 YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THESE 1622 00:48:00,043 --> 00:48:02,579 MENTAL HEALTH WAYS TO RELAX, 1623 00:48:02,579 --> 00:48:04,348 FOCUSSING ON THIS, ESPECIALLY 1624 00:48:04,348 --> 00:48:05,048 WITH THE SPACE STATION, WHICH 1625 00:48:05,048 --> 00:48:06,850 HAS BEEN IN ORBIT, MORE THAN 20 1626 00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:08,452 YEARS AND CONTINUOUSLY HABITED 1627 00:48:08,452 --> 00:48:12,022 FOR COMING UP 19 YEARS STRAIGHT. 1628 00:48:12,022 --> 00:48:13,924 THINGS I THINK ARE GOING TO 1629 00:48:13,924 --> 00:48:15,492 CHANGE WHEN WE GO FORWARD TO THE 1630 00:48:15,492 --> 00:48:17,494 MOON, TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THE 1631 00:48:17,494 --> 00:48:19,963 MOON, 2024, BOOTS ON THE MOON. 1632 00:48:19,963 --> 00:48:21,832 WHAT CAN WE TAKE FROM THE SPACE 1633 00:48:21,832 --> 00:48:23,300 STATION TO THE MOON AND WHAT'S 1634 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:23,667 DIFFERENT? 1635 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:24,701 >> WELL, FORTUNATELY, WE'VE 1636 00:48:24,701 --> 00:48:26,970 LEARNED A LOT ABOUT WHAT KEEPS 1637 00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:29,473 FOLKS HEALTHY IN SPACE. 1638 00:48:29,473 --> 00:48:32,209 AND WE BASICALLY USE A COUPLE OF 1639 00:48:32,209 --> 00:48:33,510 PARAMETERS THAT WE SORT OF 1640 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:35,145 FIGURE THESE THINGS INTO WHEN WE 1641 00:48:35,145 --> 00:48:36,580 DECIDE HOW TO PROVIDE THOSE KIND 1642 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:37,848 OF COUNTER MEASURES. 1643 00:48:37,848 --> 00:48:39,950 THE FIRST IS HABITABLE VOLUME, 1644 00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:41,418 THE LARGER THE SPACE, OBVIOUSLY 1645 00:48:41,418 --> 00:48:43,020 THE BETTER. 1646 00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:47,457 AND THE OTHER IS THE 1647 00:48:47,457 --> 00:48:48,892 ENVIRONMENT, HOW MATURE THAT 1648 00:48:48,892 --> 00:48:50,093 ENVIRONMENT IS TO WHAT IT CAN 1649 00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:50,394 PROVIDE. 1650 00:48:50,394 --> 00:48:51,862 SO AS YOU POINT OUT, THE STATION 1651 00:48:51,862 --> 00:48:54,398 IS FAIRLY LARGE, HABITABLE 1652 00:48:54,398 --> 00:48:56,600 VOLUME AND A LOT OF -- IN ITS 1653 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,468 MATURITY, HAS A LOT OF QUOTE, 1654 00:48:58,468 --> 00:49:01,738 CREATURE COMFORTS AND I SAY THAT 1655 00:49:01,738 --> 00:49:04,741 IN QUOTE, IT'S NOT A TRULY 1656 00:49:04,741 --> 00:49:05,409 COMFORTABLE PLACE. 1657 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:06,510 WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP THE 1658 00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:09,680 CREATURE COMFORTS FOR SURE. 1659 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,248 THE UPCOMING LUNAR MISSIONS AND 1660 00:49:11,248 --> 00:49:12,349 FUTURE MARS MISSIONS, BECAUSE 1661 00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:13,650 THE VEHICLES WILL BE SMALLER. 1662 00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:15,819 AND THEY WILL BE MORE OF A 1663 00:49:15,819 --> 00:49:17,421 STEER, SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO 1664 00:49:17,421 --> 00:49:19,856 HAVE MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS ON 1665 00:49:19,856 --> 00:49:21,792 BOARD, AS SOME OF THE ROBUSTNESS 1666 00:49:21,792 --> 00:49:23,527 OF THE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT AND 1667 00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:25,429 ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WE RELY 1668 00:49:25,429 --> 00:49:26,530 ON NOW. 1669 00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:27,364 FORTUNATELY, MUCH OF THE STUFF 1670 00:49:27,364 --> 00:49:32,636 THAT WE RELY ON ARE EFFECTIVE IN 1671 00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:33,970 THE SHORT-TERM FOR US. 1672 00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:35,505 BECAUSE WE RELY ON 1673 00:49:35,505 --> 00:49:36,973 COMMUNICATIONS, BANDWIDTH, AND 1674 00:49:36,973 --> 00:49:39,776 THE ABILITY TO LOAD DATA FILES 1675 00:49:39,776 --> 00:49:42,279 AND SO THE ABILITY TO KEEP MUSIC 1676 00:49:42,279 --> 00:49:43,280 GOING UP TO THE STATION FOR 1677 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,282 THEIR ENJOYMENT, VIDEOS AND 1678 00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:47,984 MOVIES, AND TO HAVE REALTIME 1679 00:49:47,984 --> 00:49:48,785 COMMUNICATIONS BACK HOME. 1680 00:49:48,785 --> 00:49:50,387 SO THAT MARK CAN MAKE A PHONE 1681 00:49:50,387 --> 00:49:52,222 CALL TO HIS FAMILY. 1682 00:49:52,222 --> 00:49:55,525 TO SEE HIS FAMILY ON A VIDEO 1683 00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:57,728 SCREEN AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE A 1684 00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:58,729 CONVERSATION WITH THEM. 1685 00:49:58,729 --> 00:50:00,330 AND SO FORTUNATELY, THOSE WILL 1686 00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:02,999 BE AVAILABLE TO US IN THE 1687 00:50:02,999 --> 00:50:03,934 UPCOMING MISSIONS TO THE MOON, 1688 00:50:03,934 --> 00:50:05,802 BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE REALTIME 1689 00:50:05,802 --> 00:50:07,771 COMMUNICATION AND HOPEFULLY, THE 1690 00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:09,373 ENGINEERS WILL GIVE US THE 1691 00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:10,707 BANDWIDTH THAT WE ASK FOR TO DO 1692 00:50:10,707 --> 00:50:11,775 THAT. 1693 00:50:11,775 --> 00:50:13,043 THINGS WILL CHANGE DRAMATICALLY 1694 00:50:13,043 --> 00:50:14,745 AS WE THINK ABOUT GOING TO MARS. 1695 00:50:14,745 --> 00:50:16,446 WE WILL LOSE REALTIME 1696 00:50:16,446 --> 00:50:17,814 COMMUNICATION AT SOME POINT. 1697 00:50:17,814 --> 00:50:19,149 AND THERE'LL BE A COMMUNICATION 1698 00:50:19,149 --> 00:50:19,416 DELAY. 1699 00:50:19,416 --> 00:50:20,250 SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO 1700 00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:22,018 RETHINK HOW WE PROVIDE SOME OF 1701 00:50:22,018 --> 00:50:23,754 THESE THINGS FOR THE FUTURE. 1702 00:50:23,754 --> 00:50:25,522 AND HOW WE MANAGE THOSE 1703 00:50:25,522 --> 00:50:27,391 EXPECTATIONS. 1704 00:50:27,391 --> 00:50:29,826 YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS MENTIONED 1705 00:50:29,826 --> 00:50:30,927 EARLIER THE ABILITY TO TUNE OUT 1706 00:50:30,927 --> 00:50:32,796 FROM SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE OF THE 1707 00:50:32,796 --> 00:50:34,965 OVERLOAD OF JUST HAVING 1708 00:50:34,965 --> 00:50:36,967 IMMEDIATE COMMUNICATION ALL THE 1709 00:50:36,967 --> 00:50:38,435 TIME. 1710 00:50:38,435 --> 00:50:40,404 BUT WE'RE RAISING FUTURE 1711 00:50:40,404 --> 00:50:41,872 GENERATIONS TO BE KIND OF 1712 00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:42,806 COMMUNICATE THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, 1713 00:50:42,806 --> 00:50:45,842 TO SEND IT A BRIEF TEXT MESSAGE 1714 00:50:45,842 --> 00:50:47,377 AND COMMUNICATE IN THAT KIND OF 1715 00:50:47,377 --> 00:50:48,278 WAY. 1716 00:50:48,278 --> 00:50:50,480 INSTEAD OF SAY, PICKING UP THE 1717 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,751 PHONE AND HAVING A CONVERSATION 1718 00:50:54,751 --> 00:50:55,152 FACE-TO-FACE. 1719 00:50:55,152 --> 00:50:56,586 I WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 1720 00:50:56,586 --> 00:50:57,754 FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT ARE USED 1721 00:50:57,754 --> 00:51:01,158 TO COMMUNICATING IN INSTANT TIME 1722 00:51:01,158 --> 00:51:03,059 AND THAT NOT BEING AVAILABLE. 1723 00:51:03,059 --> 00:51:04,361 YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING THE ABILITY 1724 00:51:04,361 --> 00:51:06,463 TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SKYPE 1725 00:51:06,463 --> 00:51:11,334 SESSION BECAUSE OF COM DELAY, OR 1726 00:51:11,334 --> 00:51:13,737 SEND AN E-MAIL OR TEXT MESSAGE. 1727 00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:14,604 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK 1728 00:51:14,604 --> 00:51:16,072 ABOUT THE WAYS TO KEEP PEOPLE 1729 00:51:16,072 --> 00:51:18,341 CONNECTED TO MANAGE THE 1730 00:51:18,341 --> 00:51:19,309 EXPECTATIONS AROUND 1731 00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:21,411 COMMUNICATION AND TO TRY TO 1732 00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:22,913 MAXIMIZE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE 1733 00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:25,115 HAVE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT FOLKS 1734 00:51:25,115 --> 00:51:25,749 IN SPACE. 1735 00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:26,082 >> YEAH. 1736 00:51:26,082 --> 00:51:28,051 THE MOON GIVES YOU THOSE 1737 00:51:28,051 --> 00:51:28,885 CONSTRAINTS OF STUFF YOU CAN 1738 00:51:28,885 --> 00:51:30,153 BRING, BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE A 1739 00:51:30,153 --> 00:51:31,221 LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNICATION 1740 00:51:31,221 --> 00:51:32,522 THAT GETS A WHOLE LOT HARDER 1741 00:51:32,522 --> 00:51:33,857 WHEN YOU GO FURTHER TO MARS. 1742 00:51:33,857 --> 00:51:34,558 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 1743 00:51:34,558 --> 00:51:35,926 >> I DID WANT TO GET TO SOME 1744 00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:37,327 SOCIAL MEDIA QUESTIONS, WE'RE 1745 00:51:37,327 --> 00:51:39,296 NEARING THE END HERE, WE'VE GOT 1746 00:51:39,296 --> 00:51:40,764 ONE DIRECTED TO YOU GUYS, 1747 00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:42,132 SHINEDOWN, FROM GAIL. 1748 00:51:42,132 --> 00:51:43,600 SHE'S ASKING, I'D BE INTERESTED 1749 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,569 IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT HOW 1750 00:51:45,569 --> 00:51:46,703 DEPRESSION AND OTHER MENTAL 1751 00:51:46,703 --> 00:51:49,039 HEALTH ISSUES CAN HAVE AN IMPACT 1752 00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:50,974 ON TOURING MUSICIANS WHILE AT 1753 00:51:50,974 --> 00:51:53,643 THE SAME TIME, MUSIC CAN BE 1754 00:51:53,643 --> 00:51:55,145 THERAPEUTIC FOR OTHERS 1755 00:51:55,145 --> 00:51:56,079 STRUGGLING WITH ISSUES. 1756 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:57,047 THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION. 1757 00:51:57,047 --> 00:51:58,748 DO YOU FIND THAT MUSIC CAN OFFER 1758 00:51:58,748 --> 00:52:00,650 YOU SOLACE IN TRYING TIMES? 1759 00:52:00,650 --> 00:52:01,852 I GUESS YOU CAN KIND OF BROADEN 1760 00:52:01,852 --> 00:52:03,587 THAT TO PLAYING MUSIC AND 1761 00:52:03,587 --> 00:52:05,555 LISTENING TO MUSIC ESPECIALLY 1762 00:52:05,555 --> 00:52:06,857 WHILE YOU'RE ON TOUR? 1763 00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:10,694 >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK ONE 1764 00:52:10,694 --> 00:52:12,062 COMMENT, WE RUN INTO A LOT IN 1765 00:52:12,062 --> 00:52:13,864 OUR MEET-AND-GREETS ON A DAILY 1766 00:52:13,864 --> 00:52:15,065 BASIS WITH OUR FRIENDS IS THANK 1767 00:52:15,065 --> 00:52:16,500 YOU SO MUCH, YOU HAVE NO IDEA 1768 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:18,034 WHAT YOUR BAND HAS DONE FOR US, 1769 00:52:18,034 --> 00:52:20,136 WHAT YOU'VE HELPED US THROUGH. 1770 00:52:20,136 --> 00:52:22,105 AND I LIKE TO TURN TO THEM AND 1771 00:52:22,105 --> 00:52:24,674 SAY, I ACTUALLY DO KNOW. 1772 00:52:24,674 --> 00:52:25,742 OR THEY'LL SOMETHING TO THE 1773 00:52:25,742 --> 00:52:27,344 EFFECT, I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW 1774 00:52:27,344 --> 00:52:29,746 WHAT YOUR BAND MEANS TO ME. 1775 00:52:29,746 --> 00:52:31,181 YES, WE ABSOLUTELY DO KNOW. 1776 00:52:31,181 --> 00:52:32,415 WE'RE ALL FANS OF MUSIC. 1777 00:52:32,415 --> 00:52:34,017 AND WE'RE ALL FANS OF THE OTHER 1778 00:52:34,017 --> 00:52:35,986 BANDS AND OTHER ARTISTS AND WE 1779 00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:39,222 ABSOLUTELY FIND SOLACE IN MUSIC, 1780 00:52:39,222 --> 00:52:39,890 IT'S THERAPY. 1781 00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:42,259 IT'S -- I THINK IT'S THE BEST 1782 00:52:42,259 --> 00:52:42,959 KIND OF THERAPY. 1783 00:52:42,959 --> 00:52:45,428 YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE RIGHT SONG 1784 00:52:45,428 --> 00:52:46,730 AND DISCOVER THINGS ABOUT 1785 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:50,233 YOURSELF THAT YOU WERE -- MAYBE 1786 00:52:50,233 --> 00:52:51,668 YOU DIDN'T REALIZE, YOU NEVER 1787 00:52:51,668 --> 00:52:52,369 KNEW ABOUT. 1788 00:52:52,369 --> 00:52:54,638 OR MAYBE YOU'RE TRYING TO FLUSH 1789 00:52:54,638 --> 00:52:57,140 OUT A PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE HAVING 1790 00:52:57,140 --> 00:52:58,341 IN YOUR HEAD ABOUT YOURSELF OR 1791 00:52:58,341 --> 00:52:59,843 SOMETHING IN YOUR LIFE AND A 1792 00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:02,812 SONG CAN JUST CLICK ON A 1793 00:53:02,812 --> 00:53:04,180 LIGHTBULB LIKE THAT AND IT'S ONE 1794 00:53:04,180 --> 00:53:05,982 OF THE MANY BLESSINGS OF OUR ART 1795 00:53:05,982 --> 00:53:10,020 FORM IS THAT YOU KNOW, MUSIC IS 1796 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:12,322 SO OBJECTIVE AND NOT SUBJECTIVE, 1797 00:53:12,322 --> 00:53:13,256 YOU CAN FIND WHATEVER YOU WANT 1798 00:53:13,256 --> 00:53:14,057 TO FIND IN IT. 1799 00:53:14,057 --> 00:53:17,294 AND PULL MEANING OUT OF A SONG 1800 00:53:17,294 --> 00:53:19,396 THAT BRENT AND I HAVE BEEN 1801 00:53:19,396 --> 00:53:21,164 TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT LATELY, 1802 00:53:21,164 --> 00:53:22,465 WHERE A MOVIE IS SOMETHING THAT 1803 00:53:22,465 --> 00:53:24,668 IS PRESENTED TO YOU IN ITS 1804 00:53:24,668 --> 00:53:25,735 FINISHED FORM, AND THERE'S 1805 00:53:25,735 --> 00:53:27,871 REALLY NOT MUCH YOU CAN GRAB 1806 00:53:27,871 --> 00:53:29,306 OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S PRESENTED TO 1807 00:53:29,306 --> 00:53:31,875 YOU. 1808 00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:33,276 I WON'T SAY SO MUCH WITH A 1809 00:53:33,276 --> 00:53:35,345 PAINTING, PEOPLE FIND DIFFERENT 1810 00:53:35,345 --> 00:53:37,047 THINGS WITH PAINTINGS. 1811 00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:38,682 MUSIC IS ONE OF THE REALLY RARE 1812 00:53:38,682 --> 00:53:40,150 ART FORMS, WHERE YOU'RE PAINTING 1813 00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:40,784 ON AIR. 1814 00:53:40,784 --> 00:53:45,388 IT'S PURELY A -- AN ORAL, YOU 1815 00:53:45,388 --> 00:53:47,791 KNOW, SENSATION, AND YOU TAKE IT 1816 00:53:47,791 --> 00:53:50,727 IN THROUGH YOUR EARS AND YOU CAN 1817 00:53:50,727 --> 00:53:52,862 TURN IT INTO WHAT YOU WANT TO 1818 00:53:52,862 --> 00:53:53,697 TURN IT IN TO. 1819 00:53:53,697 --> 00:53:54,965 YOU CAN FIND MEANING THAT YOU 1820 00:53:54,965 --> 00:53:56,366 NEED IN IT. 1821 00:53:56,366 --> 00:53:57,901 AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO 1822 00:53:57,901 --> 00:53:58,268 BEAUTIFUL. 1823 00:53:58,268 --> 00:54:01,137 AND THAT IS WHAT HELPS ME, THAT 1824 00:54:01,137 --> 00:54:04,774 I CAN HEAR SONGS AND, YOU KNOW, 1825 00:54:04,774 --> 00:54:06,576 THEY MIGHT MEAN ONE THING TO ME, 1826 00:54:06,576 --> 00:54:08,311 BUT IT'S SO HELPFUL AND SO 1827 00:54:08,311 --> 00:54:09,713 THERAPEUTIC, AND THAT'S NOT AT 1828 00:54:09,713 --> 00:54:11,348 ALL WHAT THE ARTIST INTENNED FOR 1829 00:54:11,348 --> 00:54:12,549 IT TO BE ABOUT. 1830 00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:17,420 IT'S A PRETTY AMAZING -- PRETTY 1831 00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:20,056 AMAZING WAND THAT WE WAVE BEING 1832 00:54:20,056 --> 00:54:22,158 MUSICIANS AND SONGWRITERS, AND 1833 00:54:22,158 --> 00:54:23,627 TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AUDIENCE, 1834 00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:24,294 TOO. 1835 00:54:24,294 --> 00:54:25,695 >> I MEAN, AT THE END -- WE HAVE 1836 00:54:25,695 --> 00:54:27,831 A SAYING IN THIS BAND, VERY 1837 00:54:27,831 --> 00:54:30,133 REAL, WE ONLY HAVE ONE BOSS, IT 1838 00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:31,201 JUST HAPPENS TO BE EVERYBODY IN 1839 00:54:31,201 --> 00:54:32,135 THE AUDIENCE. 1840 00:54:32,135 --> 00:54:35,005 AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US A 1841 00:54:35,005 --> 00:54:36,740 PLATFORM, ULTIMATELY, TO BE 1842 00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:37,107 OURSELVES. 1843 00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:38,708 AND BRINGING IT BACK TO MUSIC, 1844 00:54:38,708 --> 00:54:40,010 YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS QUOTE 1845 00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:41,344 FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BECAUSE I 1846 00:54:41,344 --> 00:54:42,479 THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL QUOTE. 1847 00:54:42,479 --> 00:54:45,148 BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A 1848 00:54:45,148 --> 00:54:46,149 PHILOSOPHER THAT ONCE SAID THAT 1849 00:54:46,149 --> 00:54:47,884 WITHOUT MUSIC, LIFE WITHOUT BE A 1850 00:54:47,884 --> 00:54:48,418 MISTAKE. 1851 00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:49,252 YOU KNOW? 1852 00:54:49,252 --> 00:54:52,288 AND THAT WAS FREDERIC -- AND SO 1853 00:54:52,288 --> 00:54:54,190 INSIDE OF THAT, TOO, YOU KNOW, 1854 00:54:54,190 --> 00:54:56,192 IT'S -- WE WERE DOING AN 1855 00:54:56,192 --> 00:54:57,527 INTERVIEW THE OTHER DAY, ME AND 1856 00:54:57,527 --> 00:54:59,663 HIM, AND HE TOUCHED ON IT A 1857 00:54:59,663 --> 00:55:01,331 SECOND AGO, YOU KNOW, WHY IS 1858 00:55:01,331 --> 00:55:02,532 MUSIC SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN 1859 00:55:02,532 --> 00:55:04,501 OTHER ART FORMS LIKE A FILM OR A 1860 00:55:04,501 --> 00:55:04,868 BOOK? 1861 00:55:04,868 --> 00:55:07,137 AND THOSE STORIES ARE PRESENTED, 1862 00:55:07,137 --> 00:55:08,271 THEY'RE FINISHED, THEY'RE DONE. 1863 00:55:08,271 --> 00:55:10,707 AND THEY'RE RAW, BUT FINISHED 1864 00:55:10,707 --> 00:55:11,141 FORM. 1865 00:55:11,141 --> 00:55:12,842 AND A SONG, NO MATTER WHERE IT 1866 00:55:12,842 --> 00:55:15,311 CAME FROM, WHEN IT WAS RECORDED, 1867 00:55:15,311 --> 00:55:17,280 YOU KNOW, FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, 1868 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,948 CAN TAKE YOU TO THE PLACE YOU 1869 00:55:18,948 --> 00:55:20,417 NEED TO BE, TO BUILD YOU BACK 1870 00:55:20,417 --> 00:55:21,985 UP, IF YOU'RE DOWN. 1871 00:55:21,985 --> 00:55:23,953 AND IF YOU'RE HEART BROKEN, 1872 00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:25,722 MUSIC ALWAYS HAS A WAY AND 1873 00:55:25,722 --> 00:55:28,992 SONGS, ESPECIALLY, TO KIND OF 1874 00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:30,894 COME ON AT THE RIGHT MOMENT AND 1875 00:55:30,894 --> 00:55:32,362 HEAL YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW WHAT I 1876 00:55:32,362 --> 00:55:32,729 MEAN? 1877 00:55:32,729 --> 00:55:34,230 WE'VE WITNESSED IT WITH OUR OWN 1878 00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:36,499 EYES, WE'VE WATCHED MUSIC CURE 1879 00:55:36,499 --> 00:55:37,167 CANCER. 1880 00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:38,101 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 1881 00:55:38,101 --> 00:55:41,538 IT'S -- IT'S A POWERFUL -- IT'S 1882 00:55:41,538 --> 00:55:44,207 JUST A WONDERFUL, POWERFUL, I 1883 00:55:44,207 --> 00:55:45,475 DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT, IT'S 1884 00:55:45,475 --> 00:55:47,143 ON ITS OWN LEVEL. 1885 00:55:47,143 --> 00:55:47,877 YOU KNOW? 1886 00:55:47,877 --> 00:55:49,045 AND THE THING IS, IT'S GREAT 1887 00:55:49,045 --> 00:55:50,680 ABOUT THAT, IT CONTINUOUSLY 1888 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,114 EVOLVES. 1889 00:55:51,114 --> 00:55:51,815 YOU KNOW? 1890 00:55:51,815 --> 00:55:53,383 IT MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO 1891 00:55:53,383 --> 00:55:53,783 EVERYBODY. 1892 00:55:53,783 --> 00:55:55,051 THE ALBUMS THAT WE LISTEN TO, 1893 00:55:55,051 --> 00:55:57,954 THE GENRES WE LISTEN TO. 1894 00:55:57,954 --> 00:55:59,389 IT'S ALWAYS THERE FOR YOU, IT'S 1895 00:55:59,389 --> 00:56:01,324 NEVER GOING TO TURN ITS BACK ON 1896 00:56:01,324 --> 00:56:02,092 YOU. 1897 00:56:02,092 --> 00:56:02,592 >> FASCINATING. 1898 00:56:02,592 --> 00:56:03,893 GUYS, WHAT AN AWESOME 1899 00:56:03,893 --> 00:56:06,029 DISCUSSION, THIS WAS AN ABSOLUTE 1900 00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:07,197 PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE, 1901 00:56:07,197 --> 00:56:09,933 ESPECIALLY MARK AND JIM, THANK 1902 00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:11,534 YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. 1903 00:56:11,534 --> 00:56:12,368 >> THANK YOU, PLEASURE. 1904 00:56:12,368 --> 00:56:14,070 >> AND A VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO 1905 00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:15,805 YOU, SHINEDOWN, FOR TAKING THE 1906 00:56:15,805 --> 00:56:21,778 TIME ALL THE WAY FROM NOR NOE 1907 00:56:21,778 --> 00:56:25,415 -- NORFOLK, VIRGINIA, THANK YOU 1908 00:56:25,415 --> 00:56:26,182 FOR YOUR TIME. 1909 00:56:26,182 --> 00:56:27,517 WE ARE RECORDING, THIS IS 1910 00:56:27,517 --> 00:56:28,585 OBVIOUSLY LIVE, BUT WE'RE 1911 00:56:28,585 --> 00:56:29,819 RECORDING IT AND WE'LL SEND IT 1912 00:56:29,819 --> 00:56:31,354 OUT AS A PODCAST, YOU CAN SEND 1913 00:56:31,354 --> 00:56:34,357 US, HOUSTON WE HAVE A PODCAST ON 1914 00:56:34,357 --> 00:56:35,658 NASA.GOV. 1915 00:56:35,658 --> 00:56:37,026 I THINK I'M GOING TO GET A 1916 00:56:37,026 --> 00:56:37,994 SELFIE OF THIS MOMENT BECAUSE IT 1917 00:56:37,994 --> 00:56:39,996 IS AWESOME. 1918 00:56:39,996 --> 00:56:50,006 THANKS AGAIN, GUYS.