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There's been nothing like Osiris-rex
in NASA's repertoire.

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I like to call it
the Daredevil spacecraft.

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10 seconds.

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Nine, eight,
seven, six, five, four, three,

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two. One.

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And liftoff of OSIRIS-REx.

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Its seven year mission to boldly go.

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To the asteroid.

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Bennu and back.

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Hello and welcome.

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I'm Karen Fox
with NASA's Office of Communications.

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And we are here today at the Dugway
Proving Ground in Utah

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for a press
briefing on NASA's Osiris-rex mission.

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Earlier today, the mission
jettisoned the capsule containing samples

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from asteroid Bennu
that parachuted down onto the Utah Test

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and Training range so we can study
those samples here on Earth.

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It's been a very big day, and we're gonna
kick it off with some highlights.

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And. Gear while still

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SRC is experiencing
maximum heating and maximum deceleration.

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So you just heard right

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they were experiencing that 5000 degree
Fahrenheit maximum heating EDL miles.

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So we have in terms of parachute
deployment. Wow.

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And after an exhilarating

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streak across Earth's atmosphere,
we have parachute deployment.

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You can see
just a sigh of relief from the team.

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I can hear some applause here.

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The team over at WB 57

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Touchdown

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I repeat, EDL

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SRC has touchdown.

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And touchdown of the OSIRIS-REx sample return capsule

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a journey of a billion miles to asteroid
BENNU and back has come to an end

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marking America's
first sample return mission of its kind

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and opening a time capsule
to our ancient solar system.

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A sample carrying fixture.

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Of the operations WB
has located the parachute on the ground.

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You just heard that confirmation

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from that high altitude plane
locating that parachute on him.

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We have here a panel will all give you
some of their impressions

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and some information
about what happened today.

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And then we will go on

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to take some questions from media
in the room and on the phone line.

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We have with us, Lori Glaze,
who is the director for NASA's

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planetary science division at NASA
headquarters in Washington, DC.

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We have Dante Lauretta,
who is the Osiris-rex

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principal investigator
at the University of Arizona in Tucson.

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Next, we have Mike Moreau,
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for the Mission at NASA's Goddard Space
Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

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And Tim Priser,
the chief engineer for Deep Space

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exploration at Lockheed
Martin in Littleton, Colorado.

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And finally, Eileen Stansbery,
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Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas.

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Lori passing it to you. Great. Thanks, Karen.

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I don't even know what to say.

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What an incredible day this has been.

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It has just been phenomenal
from start to finish.

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I wanted to start just by thanking
everyone that's been here,

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sharing this with us here at the Dugway
Proving Ground and everyone

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around the world who has watched
and followed along all day.

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It has just been amazing.

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We just appreciate everyone
coming along with us to celebrate NASA's

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first ever asteroid sample return.

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It has been incredible.

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And these samples that we've brought back
and now you're going to hear

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what the next steps are.

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And you know what
we're going to do with those samples.

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Those are going to be a treasure
for scientific analysis for years

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and years and years to come to our kids

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and our grandkids and people
that haven't even been born yet.

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It's going to be absolutely incredible.

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And another thing I just want to point out
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this these types of samples, they are they
are truly the gifts that keep on giving.

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They are a treasure.

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And this mission, Osiris-rex,
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of sample return following Osiris-rex.

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NASA's partnering with the Japanese Space
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which is going to bring samples
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We're going to have

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new Artemus samples of the moon

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feed, incredible new scientific analysis
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of our closest neighbor, the moon,
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with the return of samples
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being collected by the Perseverance Rover
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So this is just an amazing an amazing
opportunity here to to kick that off.

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I did want to make sure
I take this opportunity to thank

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those that that made this possible.

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What you saw today,
everything that you saw

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could not have happened
without the amazing partnership

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between NASA and Department of Defense,
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Dugway Proving Ground
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And then also I'll even add Air Force.

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He's brought the aircraft here
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our precious samples and some of our team
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It's just been amazing.

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And I'll also just say what you saw
executed today, that precision,

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everything going
just almost perfectly to plan.

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That happens because of an incredible

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team and hundreds and hundreds of people.

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You'll hear from a few of those team
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But I know that every person that you see
is backed by hundreds of others.

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It's been an incredible accomplishment.

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And I just want to thank Dante

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and everyone, the entire team,
for this incredible accomplishment.

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And then the last thing
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is just a reminder that,
you know, the spacecraft osiris-rex

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dropped off
her precious sample this morning

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and then 20 minutes
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She's not only embarking on a new journey,
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led scientific leadership
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Fantastic to see the next generation
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taking the spacecraft to explore
another asteroid called Apophis.

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So thank you. Back to you, Karen.

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Thank you so much, Laurie.

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Next up, we have Dante Lauretta,
who's going to tell us

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a little bit about what it was like
to be part of the recovery team.

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Thank you, Karen.

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Well, today capped the end of an almost
20 year adventure for me.

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I got involved in this program
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when representatives from Lockheed
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thinking up
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and they wanted U of A to take the scientific leadership role.

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And I was brought in
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under the leadership of my mentor,
Professor Mike Drake.

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And I just want to think about
Mike a little bit here today.

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He passed away in 2011,
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after we won the contract from NASA
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And I know he would be super proud
and he would have loved today.

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He would have just really embraced
and embarked on this amazing journey.

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When we first were talking to

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to our friends at Lockheed,
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They said, Pick an asteroid, Dante,

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and we'll bring samples back to the Earth
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And I can tell you
this is the end of a very long spell.

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Right.
We've been casting it for a long time.

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And it was great
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It was pulse pounding,
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for those of us in the helicopters
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We were with bated breath,
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for a
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And it worked.

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And it worked spectacularly well.

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I was fortunate enough to be one of the
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And boy, did we stick that landing.

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It was just sitting right there,
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a nice road, perfect place
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Didn't move. It
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It just made tiny little division
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So for the environmental sampling
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We had to sample the area right
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We picked up some background

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sample soils just for understanding
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The dust samples and gas samples to see
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We don't think so
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were the first ones on the scene.

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We actually couldn't approach it until
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There was no sign of any any toxic gases,
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But of course, human
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And that was the first check out
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It was also a very clear area.

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We are in a military test range.

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There was no sign of any issues
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So we got our job done really fast.

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You know, we did a lot of rehearsals.

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We always rehearsed and practice
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That's why we always achieve
these high levels of excellence.

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And I can't say I'm
I couldn't be more proud.

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not only did we bring this mission
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and delivered more science than we had
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with the encounter with Bennu,
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in that in that science canister
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For me,
the real science is just beginning.

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I grew up as a laboratory chemist
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from the Stardust Mission,
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So I really am looking forward
to the next stages of this journey.

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People have asked about, you know,
planetary protection.

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We did go through
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We were unrestricted Earth return
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probably material from this asteroid
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at some point in the past.

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It's also a very small body that's
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And no lifeforms that we know of would be
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So very, very low risk.

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In fact, we're more worried about Earth
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of this program is to try to understand
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deliver the compounds
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on our planet,
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so we plan to exclude it
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or anything else that might compromise
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And the team at Johnson
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They've got a beautiful laboratory
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to start processing that sample,
we hope, as early as Tuesday of next week.

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Thank you so much, Dante.

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more about entry, descent and landing.

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Yeah,
So it's so amazing to be in this moment.

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It's hard to describe
what it means to be in this moment.

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I've worked on this project
not as long as Dante, but but a decade

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through the early development
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to the mission operations
to leading the recovery team.

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I was in the control center today
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Richard Weatherspoon,
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and we were directing the efforts
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that went into that activity today
and just seeing that parachute

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and seeing the capsule
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and then seeing it just sitting perfectly
on the desert floor.

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Just hard to articulate what that means

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after so, so much put into this mission.

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But I want to talk a little bit about what
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It started with the amazing job
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did, the Lockheed Martin and Kinetics
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that were there operating the mission
and targeting that Earth entry interface.

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So precisely so that we could come down.

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That's magic in my opinion.

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And I'm a navigator,

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but the precision with which they do
that job is just incredible.

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And that's
what got us to the start of today.

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Now get to our partners at the Air Force.

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One of the great things about landing in
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cameras and radars
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with very first signal
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was from our Air Force counterparts
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before we even reached the radar.

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The atmospheric interface.

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from the spacecraft 4 hours
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from a third of the distance to the moon
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And that signal from the radar said
that we were on track within a few seconds

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of where we needed to be.

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So that was a huge moment.

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Then we had aircraft, one of them

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operated by the Johnson
Space Center, WB57 aircraft.

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It had infrared and optical cameras on it
very soon after the radar detection,

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we started seeing signals from the WB 57

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and we were able to see the actual
hypersonic reentry and the fireball

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and then track the capsule
as it descended.

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And until the parachutes came out
and landed on the ground.

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And you all saw that footage on
the television as far as the landing goes.

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We landed a little bit
to the east of our nominal landing point,

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but that's what our amazing entry,
descent and landing engineers have been

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telling us is going to be happening.

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They've been looking at the atmospheric
density in the models for that.

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The trajectory path
we would take through the atmosphere

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and they predicted

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we would be east of our nominal landing
location, and that's where we landed.

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So I just want to say

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that I'm so proud to be part of this team
that did this today.

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I'm proud to be part of the team

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that got us here
in part of the mission operations.

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We had some great challenges
to overcome with this mission

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and great groups overcome
great challenges.

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And it's been a pleasure

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to work with some of these amazing teams
in my ten years working on this mission.

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Thank you so much, Mike.

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Our next speaker is Tim Priser
with Lockheed

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Martin to talk a little bit
about the capsule itself.

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You know, this capsule

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literally has a personality in it.

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It understood the assignment.

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And I think back

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I think your colleague, Peter Smith
and I got to work on Mars, Phenix

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and that that little lander
understood the assignment, too,

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that the scientists come up
with these grand questions

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that they're striving to get answers for.

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And we as engineers,

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for goodness
sakes, it's the best job an engineer

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could ever have to help a scientist
go gather this knowledge.

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It's just so thrilling and rewarding

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and so much so that we
we understand the question

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and then we can design
a special spacecraft,

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Like OSIRIS, to go
collect the information and the answers.

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And like Phoenix, like I said, I think
she understood the assignment, too,

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because Peter Smith wanted to prove
that there was water ice on Mars.

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And bless her heart, just before
she touched down, she used the thrusters

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to blow all the regolith off
and say, Look, there it is.

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There's your eyes. Peter.

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Well, today, Osiris Rex
not only 4 hours before entry

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did she understand the assignment

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and put this SRC on a path to hit
an entry interface

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that needed to be so precise
that you didn't slip out of the atmosphere

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or you hit it too deep and you burned up
before you had a chance to get

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to the ground.

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So she did that

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flawlessly with aplomb,
and then she immediately turned her

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attention on Apophis and changed her
name on the back of her jersey.

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And she's now OSIRIS-Apex.

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By the way,
we scored the first touchdown today

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before any of the other NFL teams that
I just want to put that on the record.

295
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But back to the SRC.

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She came through the atmosphere.

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She knew her job was to get to the ground.

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She also thought it would be nice
and kind to land close to a road,

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you know, heat shield down back, shell up

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basically with a little sign
that said Dante,

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please hug me.

302
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It. And it was so
she made it so easy for us

303
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that these designs are are so robust

304
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that as she's coming
through the atmosphere, you know,

305
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whether or not the atmosphere
was more dense than it should have been

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or expected to be or,
you know, some something in our sequence

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may or may not have behaved itself
exactly the way we expected it to.

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But the subsequent things in the sequence
made up for the fact

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that parachute came out
and we touched down as soft as a dove.

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It was just beautiful.

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And you can see the excitement
not only on the scientists team,

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but when they showed that

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the mission support area back in Littleton
and the celebration in that room,

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that that's when it becomes real,
because the thousands of hours

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that all of these people
spent over the decade or more.

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Right. Years together,

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they just naturally build relationships
that lasts last a lifetime.

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They watch each other's children
grow up over that time of a timeframe.

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And so their children were

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excited to family and friends.

321
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We're back there
and it's just a special, special occasion.

322
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And in this case, when we land on Mars,

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we don't have a lot of opportunity
to go collect the parachute,

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put it in a bag and analyze it,
grab the avionics

325
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so we can go troubleshoot
and or understand how well they behaved.

326
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We have our hands on the heat
shield and the back show,

327
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and we can prove that our our prediction,
our models

328
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either were spot on
or we need to adjust them.

329
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EDL reconstruction is a real thing.

330
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Every one of us,
whether it's Mars or Earth,

331
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that's the first thing.

332
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As an engineer that we want to do.

333
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We want to collect the data,

334
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collect the hardware
if we can, which we can in this case,

335
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and understand
how well our models are going to predict

336
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the next one.

337
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I can watch this video from today
over and over and over.

338
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It was just a beautiful thing.

339
00:18:36,532 --> 00:18:38,567
Thank you so much, Tim.

340
00:18:38,567 --> 00:18:43,472
Our final panelist is Eileen Stansbery,
who is going to talk a little bit

341
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about what happens to the samples
after they were recovered of.

342
00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:49,678
Thank you very much.

343
00:18:49,678 --> 00:18:52,731
These samples are an amazing

344
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treasure trove for generations,

345
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but we currently have a team of spacecraft
engineers,

346
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scientists and curatorial personnel

347
00:19:05,928 --> 00:19:09,331
working right now
in a temporary clean room here at Dugway

348
00:19:09,531 --> 00:19:15,587
to make the sample capsule
ready for transport down to the Johnson

349
00:19:15,587 --> 00:19:19,808
Space Center so that we can open it up
and reveal this treasure.

350
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The the entry into the

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clean room has been

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has gone extremely well.

353
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They're processing the capsule,

354
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removing portions of the canister

355
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so that they can get a continuous flow
of nitrogen

356
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into the sample canister or to ensure

357
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that there is no contamination
from Earth's atmosphere into that canister

358
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and maintain the pristineity of the these samples

359
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so that the science team,

360
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200 plus people

361
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all over the world
can start studying these samples.

362
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Once these samples are taken
to the Johnson Space Center,

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we'll be able to start

364
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removing them, denigrating the
the science canister,

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evaluating those samples

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and providing them
to the scientific community.

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I think that there's a quick video here

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of taking that's

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the the capsule into the clean room

370
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and being able to see fit

371
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and make sure that we retain
a uncontaminated sample

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as the stewards of the scientific
integrity of these staples.

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The curatorial team at the Johnson
Space Center is working hand in glove

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with the spacecraft engineering team
and the science team

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to ensure
that we are processing and handling this

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sample return capsule

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in a measured, methodical,

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well-choreographed sequence.

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And I'm happy to report

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that the sample canister

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was put on purge today
a little bit before 1:00.

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And so we now have a
a continuous flow of nitrogen

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within that science canister,

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and we are well on the way to

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getting that science canister
ready for transport

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down to the Johnson Space Center.

387
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And the the
the support that we are providing

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to the science and engineering teams

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today is documenting the handling,

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ensuring that we understood and the

391
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the environment that the science canister

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is in and

393
00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:21,273
making way for

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the next generation of understanding

395
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a new world.

396
00:22:29,147 --> 00:22:31,967
Thank you so much for those in the room,

397
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Do you know that those videos
were showing up on the broadcast?

398
00:22:36,421 --> 00:22:37,706
If there are any more

399
00:22:37,706 --> 00:22:42,477
some of these TV screens in the back,
you can turn around and try and see them.

400
00:22:42,561 --> 00:22:45,380
But for now, we are moving the questions.

401
00:22:45,380 --> 00:22:49,401
We are going to take a few in the room and
then we will also go to the phone line.

402
00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:53,088
If you are on the phone,
you can press star one to get in the queue

403
00:22:53,271 --> 00:22:54,873
and we do have a microphone.

404
00:22:54,873 --> 00:22:58,660
So if I call on you, please
wait for the mic. Alex Let's see

405
00:22:58,727 --> 00:23:05,467
the answer right here.

406
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:06,301
Hi, Alex.

407
00:23:06,301 --> 00:23:08,070
With the nature for Dr.

408
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Stansberry, is there anything. Else
you can say about sort of the condition

409
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of the capsule on the.

410
00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:15,177
Exterior, what it looks like
when you open it up, Anything about

411
00:23:15,177 --> 00:23:19,998
patterns of wear, not erosion,
but just more about the physical condition

412
00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:23,769
as you were going through it? Um,

413
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when they took the back show off,

414
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it was extremely clean on the inside.

415
00:23:29,691 --> 00:23:36,481
It was remarkably similar to

416
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prior to launch.

417
00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:43,171
Makes you wonder, did
we actually open it up at some point?

418
00:23:43,171 --> 00:23:46,108
But I know we opened it up.

419
00:23:46,108 --> 00:23:49,077
I saw it in Tagsam and,

420
00:23:49,077 --> 00:23:54,699
and it was beautiful, clean

421
00:23:54,783 --> 00:23:56,635
and extraordinary

422
00:23:56,635 --> 00:24:00,755
experience of seeing that

423
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:06,244
this the spacecraft itself must have

424
00:24:06,328 --> 00:24:09,047
worked extraordinarily well,

425
00:24:09,047 --> 00:24:15,170
that all of the
the engineering that went in to ensure

426
00:24:15,353 --> 00:24:23,411
that the science canister
was going to remain clean, did their job.

427
00:24:23,478 --> 00:24:23,995
All right.

428
00:24:23,995 --> 00:24:25,730
Another question in the room.

429
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:29,518
This gentleman in the green shirt
here, please do identify yourself

430
00:24:29,601 --> 00:24:34,873
and you have a mike
coming over your shoulder here.

431
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:35,540
Thanks very much.

432
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:38,543
It's Ivan Semeniuk
with the Globe and Mail in in Canada.

433
00:24:38,627 --> 00:24:42,797
I just want to follow up
on what Tim Priser said about how maybe

434
00:24:42,797 --> 00:24:46,101
some things didn't go quite as expected,
but then other things compensated.

435
00:24:46,101 --> 00:24:47,252
It all worked out.

436
00:24:47,252 --> 00:24:49,321
What were those things
that didn't go as expected?

437
00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:53,525
And can you give us a sense of what
some of the surprises may have been?

438
00:24:53,608 --> 00:24:56,878
I can tell you what we expected to happen.

439
00:24:56,962 --> 00:25:01,867
If you remember,
the peak G is about 32 G’s sensed.

440
00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:06,021
on the way up that Paul said at a 3 G level,
we actually armed some triggers

441
00:25:06,021 --> 00:25:07,939
to start the sequence of events.

442
00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:12,360
We experienced the peak 32 G pulse
and then we passed back through that three

443
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:18,333
G trigger on the way back down
and that initiates the sequence of events.

444
00:25:18,416 --> 00:25:19,067
11 seconds

445
00:25:19,067 --> 00:25:22,888
later, the drogue chute is
is commanded to deploy.

446
00:25:22,888 --> 00:25:27,359
And then 360 seconds after the drogue,
the main chute deploys.

447
00:25:27,442 --> 00:25:31,863
What I can tell you, because we all saw
it, the main chute did deploy.

448
00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:35,617
It was difficult to see in in maybe

449
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,120
with our EDL reconstruction in the data
that we still need to go collect,

450
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,756
we can understand
some of the upper atmosphere

451
00:25:41,756 --> 00:25:44,242
in the hypersonic flight regime.

452
00:25:44,242 --> 00:25:47,128
But at the end of the day,

453
00:25:47,128 --> 00:25:50,131
when that main chute deployed, it

454
00:25:50,365 --> 00:25:54,236
basically corrected
any of the sins that may have happened

455
00:25:54,236 --> 00:25:57,923
ahead of it because, you know,
it was beautiful as on time.

456
00:25:57,923 --> 00:26:03,395
We hung under the chute for five
and a half minutes, just like we expected

457
00:26:03,478 --> 00:26:05,630
and just like I said, touched down
like a feather.

458
00:26:05,630 --> 00:26:07,249
I'd just like to clarify that.

459
00:26:07,249 --> 00:26:07,916
I mean.

460
00:26:07,916 --> 00:26:13,388
Possibly the drogue chute did not deploy
or is it not clear yet? Yes.

461
00:26:13,471 --> 00:26:17,676
So we don't know
if the drogue shoot deployed

462
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:19,978
because we don't know
if we can see that in the imagery.

463
00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:22,547
The imagery that we saw was not positive.

464
00:26:22,547 --> 00:26:25,166
But we do know
is that the main parachute came out.

465
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:27,502
It came out
a little bit earlier than we expected.

466
00:26:27,502 --> 00:26:29,638
But that time difference

467
00:26:29,638 --> 00:26:33,575
was within the family of variation
that we expect from the atmosphere.

468
00:26:33,658 --> 00:26:36,661
So so that is not really a surprise to us.

469
00:26:36,711 --> 00:26:38,697
You know, Tim is talking about analyzing
all the data.

470
00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:42,233
One of the great things about landing here
is we have all this photo documentation

471
00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:45,170
from four different camera systems
that were around.

472
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:46,771
We also have the WB imagery.

473
00:26:46,771 --> 00:26:48,139
We don't have that available yet.

474
00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:49,891
We have not been able to look at that.

475
00:26:49,891 --> 00:26:53,511
I can tell you that I could not see
whether or not the drogue was deployed

476
00:26:53,511 --> 00:26:57,048
in the imagery that I could had available
in real time in the ops room.

477
00:26:57,198 --> 00:27:00,785
That's not necessarily
an indication that it did not deploy,

478
00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:03,505
but I can't confirm that
I saw it in imagery.

479
00:27:03,505 --> 00:27:05,073
But what we're going to do
is what we always do

480
00:27:05,073 --> 00:27:07,008
is go back
and look at this in great detail.

481
00:27:07,008 --> 00:27:10,011
And that's one of the advantages
of landing here, is we got a ton of data

482
00:27:10,078 --> 00:27:11,246
and we're going to go back
and look at that

483
00:27:11,246 --> 00:27:13,014
and we'll reconstruct
exactly what happened.

484
00:27:13,014 --> 00:27:17,769
But the bottom line is we landed
that when the main parachutes came out.

485
00:27:17,852 --> 00:27:20,071
That was
the moment that I was waiting for.

486
00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:24,909
And and that for me was success.

487
00:27:24,993 --> 00:27:28,580
I knew that we had done
we were were successful.

488
00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:30,231
And we were going
to get that sample today.

489
00:27:30,231 --> 00:27:33,001
And that the simple fact of the matter
is the drogue

490
00:27:33,001 --> 00:27:36,304
parachute deploys the main parachute.

491
00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:39,908
So just by the way, that is designed,

492
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,143
the drogue

493
00:27:42,143 --> 00:27:44,029
did deploy

494
00:27:44,029 --> 00:27:45,797
the drogue is on top of the main parachute.

495
00:27:45,797 --> 00:27:47,198
So all had to come out.

496
00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:50,185
So that that's where I say the robustness

497
00:27:50,185 --> 00:27:53,571
of this design,
you kind of rolled itself up

498
00:27:53,571 --> 00:27:56,941
into a ball and said, I'm
going to get this done, and I got it done.

499
00:27:57,008 --> 00:27:57,959
Thank you so much.

500
00:27:57,959 --> 00:27:58,610
We're now going to go

501
00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,613
to two questions on the phone
and then I will come back to the room.

502
00:28:01,863 --> 00:28:09,070
Our first question on the phone is from
Jeff Foust with Space News.

503
00:28:09,137 --> 00:28:11,072
And good afternoon.

504
00:28:11,072 --> 00:28:12,107
Question for Mike Moreau.

505
00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:15,326
You mentioned that the landing site
was a little bit east of the center.

506
00:28:15,527 --> 00:28:17,929
How far off from the center
was the landing?

507
00:28:17,929 --> 00:28:21,266
And was that entirely do
the atmospheric variations or anything

508
00:28:21,266 --> 00:28:24,786
that might have happened
with the parachute timing

509
00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:28,323
that caused the,
uh, that caused that thing?

510
00:28:28,406 --> 00:28:30,892
Um, I'll talk a little bit about this
because it's

511
00:28:30,892 --> 00:28:33,378
really part of the amazing work
that the team did.

512
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:37,132
Our ellipse,
our final ellipse that we were looking at

513
00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:40,952
today was something on the order of 12
by 30 kilometers.

514
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:43,221
It's not exactly, but that's approximate.

515
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,473
So that's a lot smaller than the planning
ellipse we'd have,

516
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:48,760
because as we got closer and closer,
things have shrunk down.

517
00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:52,497
Where we landed was probably eight
kilometers or so to the east.

518
00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:57,218
I don't have the exact number, but it was
on the eastern side of that ellipse.

519
00:28:57,302 --> 00:29:01,189
But our EDL team had been telling us
for the last week or so they expected us

520
00:29:01,189 --> 00:29:04,192
to land to the East Side Ellipse
and that was based on

521
00:29:04,342 --> 00:29:07,729
looking at the actual forecasted
atmospheric density

522
00:29:07,946 --> 00:29:11,733
and wind speeds
and things would take us to the east.

523
00:29:11,816 --> 00:29:13,818
So we were really I was really excited.

524
00:29:13,818 --> 00:29:16,621
I sent them a little screenshot
of where I thought the landing was

525
00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:19,491
As soon as it was there, because I was
like, Wow, you guys were great.

526
00:29:19,491 --> 00:29:22,227
You told me exactly where it was going
to land and that's where it ended up, so...

527
00:29:22,227 --> 00:29:26,998
I think you may have
won the pool, by the way.

528
00:29:27,081 --> 00:29:28,500
All right, Thank you very much.

529
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,803
The next question from the phone
line is from Bill Harwood

530
00:29:31,803 --> 00:29:35,173
with CBS News.

531
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,243
Hey, thank you very much
and congratulations, everyone.

532
00:29:38,343 --> 00:29:39,110
Two quick questions.

533
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,664
One for Tim, just making sure I understand
what you were just telling us.

534
00:29:42,747 --> 00:29:45,150
Are you saying the drogue
definitely deployed, but

535
00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:48,419
you don't know if it inflated
or you just didn't see it visually?

536
00:29:48,503 --> 00:29:51,873
And for Dante, I'm
just wondering what went through your mind

537
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,007
the moment you heard

538
00:29:53,007 --> 00:29:56,010
that the main chute had deployed
or maybe you saw that with your own eyes.

539
00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:57,529
I mean, that must have been

540
00:29:57,529 --> 00:30:00,482
an amazing moment for you
after all the years you put into this.

541
00:30:00,482 --> 00:30:01,850
Thanks. You go first.

542
00:30:01,850 --> 00:30:02,300
All right.

543
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:05,453
Yeah,
but we were in the helicopter waiting,

544
00:30:05,453 --> 00:30:10,692
and so all we got was telemetry
from our range control officer here at UTTR.

545
00:30:10,758 --> 00:30:13,111
So I didn't have all the cool video
and things like that

546
00:30:13,111 --> 00:30:14,128
everybody else was seeing here.

547
00:30:14,128 --> 00:30:16,848
So I was really trying to hear
through helicopter noise

548
00:30:16,848 --> 00:30:21,269
and we heard passing through 100,000 feet,
passing through 60,000 feet.

549
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:23,488
And I was getting a little worried
for sure.

550
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:24,989
I knew things were supposed
to be happening

551
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:27,208
on a nominal timeline,
that I wasn't getting call outs.

552
00:30:27,208 --> 00:30:29,961
But again,
we could just have radio dropouts there.

553
00:30:29,961 --> 00:30:34,282
And then we heard main chute detected,
and I literally broke into tears.

554
00:30:34,282 --> 00:30:37,685
I mean, and I probably can do it right now
just thinking about it, because

555
00:30:37,769 --> 00:30:41,005
that was the moment
I knew we made it home.

556
00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:43,525
And, you know, I'm weary at this point.

557
00:30:43,525 --> 00:30:47,512
I've been thinking about this
and focusing on it, and all of my energy

558
00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:50,698
and all my will has gone
into making this thing a success.

559
00:30:50,782 --> 00:30:53,785
And I knew the moment the chute opened,
that was it.

560
00:30:53,868 --> 00:30:55,587
We knew what to do.
From that point forward.

561
00:30:55,587 --> 00:31:01,676
There was no surprises left,
and it was overwhelming relief, gratitude,

562
00:31:01,676 --> 00:31:05,163
pride, awe,
and really trying to convince myself

563
00:31:05,163 --> 00:31:07,498
that I wasn't dreaming
that it was actually happening,

564
00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:08,483
that the chute was open,

565
00:31:08,483 --> 00:31:12,337
that the capsule was coming down,
that we got that science treasure in hand

566
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:14,973
and it's the end of a journey
and the beginning of a new one,

567
00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:18,893
because we're going into the atomic realm,
we're going into the mineralogy,

568
00:31:18,893 --> 00:31:22,113
the chemistry of the organics
and the history of the solar system,

569
00:31:22,113 --> 00:31:24,716
which is what I signed up
for all those years ago,

570
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:27,118
is to do the laboratory investigation
on this material.

571
00:31:27,118 --> 00:31:31,556
So I'm getting really excited about
getting into the lab and really digging

572
00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:35,443
into these samples and answering
all the questions that have come up

573
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:38,963
before we launch and especially
from our encounter with Asteroid BENNU.

574
00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:40,281
A lot of surprises there.

575
00:31:40,281 --> 00:31:42,567
A lot of new science ideas
came out of that,

576
00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:48,590
and that's driving our sample
analysis plan right now.

577
00:31:48,673 --> 00:31:50,608
And Mike.

578
00:31:50,608 --> 00:31:52,277
About the drogue.

579
00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:56,814
And relatively the parachute deploy
that we the clarity of the videos

580
00:31:56,814 --> 00:32:01,769
that we do have and have had a chance
to look at, especially the high speed one

581
00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:06,507
coincidentally, is very clear
at about the time that parachute deployed.

582
00:32:06,691 --> 00:32:09,527
And we can see the drogue chute,
pull it, deploy it.

583
00:32:09,527 --> 00:32:13,648
So we know that drogue chute was out
and it deployed the main chute

584
00:32:13,731 --> 00:32:15,149
at that point in time.

585
00:32:15,149 --> 00:32:18,886
What we need to do is continue to comb
through the information, the data,

586
00:32:18,886 --> 00:32:24,092
the video that we do have, just to see
if we can understand how much time

587
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:28,896
ahead of that point
we can confirm or or not

588
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:32,817
whether or not that drogue was out.

589
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:34,168
Thank you so much.

590
00:32:34,168 --> 00:32:36,838
We have two people
who have had their hands up for a while,

591
00:32:36,838 --> 00:32:39,624
this gentleman here, and then we'll go
to the gentleman right behind him.

592
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:42,877
And please identify yourselves. Yes,

593
00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:43,411
Thank you.

594
00:32:43,411 --> 00:32:46,798
And congratulations, Chris Cokinos
with Astronomy Magazine.

595
00:32:46,881 --> 00:32:48,916
The two part question for you, Dante.

596
00:32:48,916 --> 00:32:51,569
One scientific and one personal.

597
00:32:51,569 --> 00:32:54,572
Is there anything that you can tell from

598
00:32:54,689 --> 00:32:59,210
how the sample return
canister was behaving?

599
00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:01,612
I guess you would say
as you were moving it

600
00:33:01,612 --> 00:33:05,333
or the nitrogen flow that might tell you
anything about the status of the sample

601
00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:09,387
inside you had mentioned before,
it might be just highly pulverized.

602
00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:11,122
Is there any any sense

603
00:33:11,122 --> 00:33:14,342
of that at this point
or you just have to wait until you open it

604
00:33:14,425 --> 00:33:18,296
and then, like you said,
you were weary when, when and

605
00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:22,050
where do you get a chance to just like,
I don't know, take a hike in the desert.

606
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:23,334
Go, go in the Tucson.

607
00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:27,321
When do you get a chance to just, like,
take a breath and reflect

608
00:33:27,321 --> 00:33:30,842
and kind of rejuvenate
a little bit, thinking.

609
00:33:30,925 --> 00:33:34,412
So I we don't have any information
about the nature of the returning sample

610
00:33:34,412 --> 00:33:35,730
at this point.

611
00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:37,465
This capsule weighs 50 kilograms.

612
00:33:37,465 --> 00:33:39,867
We think we have 250
grams of sample inside there.

613
00:33:39,867 --> 00:33:41,486
So you really wouldn't
be able to tell anything

614
00:33:41,486 --> 00:33:43,921
and they wouldn't
let me shake it like a kid in Christmas

615
00:33:43,921 --> 00:33:45,890
trying to see what I can hear
inside there yet.

616
00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:50,311
So and they probably won't
let me do that, right. I mean

617
00:33:50,395 --> 00:33:53,431
so I have to be patient and I'm
and I'm really exercising patience.

618
00:33:53,431 --> 00:33:57,752
I understand we need to go methodically,
systematically through the hardware.

619
00:33:57,752 --> 00:33:59,754
We have a very well defined procedure.

620
00:33:59,754 --> 00:34:04,375
The curation team knows the importance
of getting sample out to the science

621
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:08,513
as quickly as possible while maintaining
the integrity of the collection.

622
00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:10,131
And I'm fully on board with that.

623
00:34:10,131 --> 00:34:13,434
Osiris-rex is about the science,
but it's also about the legacy.

624
00:34:13,434 --> 00:34:15,386
And the legacy
is that long term collection.

625
00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:17,605
And we work hand in hand together
as science and curation

626
00:34:17,605 --> 00:34:21,576
to make sure that both of those
are achieved in a timely manner.

627
00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:23,928
In terms of when I get to relax,
that's a good question.

628
00:34:23,928 --> 00:34:25,113
We've got a busy week ahead of us.

629
00:34:25,113 --> 00:34:28,699
We're flying to Houston tomorrow morning
at the crack of dawn, so not tomorrow.

630
00:34:28,699 --> 00:34:31,702
And then Tuesday morning
we hope we get that canister open

631
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:35,490
and I expect we'll see some dust
and we have a plan to sample that dust

632
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:39,961
and get into the science instruments
at JSC right away, just to say,

633
00:34:40,044 --> 00:34:42,830
did we bring back what we thought
or is it something completely different?

634
00:34:42,830 --> 00:34:44,999
And knowing Bennu,
it might be a little both, right?

635
00:34:44,999 --> 00:34:47,218
So I can't wait to see that

636
00:34:47,218 --> 00:34:51,239
I have a big party planned on October 14th
in downtown Tucson.

637
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,007
The whole city is celebrating with us.

638
00:34:53,007 --> 00:34:54,742
Mayor Romero of Tucson declared

639
00:34:54,742 --> 00:34:59,614
today Osiris-rex day, by the way,
Thank you, Mayor Romero, for that. And

640
00:34:59,697 --> 00:35:01,165
so I think October 14th,

641
00:35:01,165 --> 00:35:04,168
we should have pretty good idea
of what the nature of the collection is.

642
00:35:04,218 --> 00:35:08,005
We should be at the final stages
of allocating the first major masses

643
00:35:08,005 --> 00:35:09,407
to the science team.

644
00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:12,760
And yeah, we're going to throw down.

645
00:35:12,827 --> 00:35:15,947
Fantastic this don't know it
a little bit closer here.

646
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:17,181
This gentleman right here.

647
00:35:17,181 --> 00:35:18,950
Thank you. Please identify yourself.

648
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,101
Thank you.

649
00:35:20,101 --> 00:35:21,452
David Brown, The New Yorker.

650
00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:25,439
Dante congratulated to you and the team
for an extraordinary achievement today.

651
00:35:25,523 --> 00:35:27,358
Dr. Glaze,

652
00:35:27,358 --> 00:35:30,361
I have a question
about how a government shutdown

653
00:35:30,411 --> 00:35:33,531
might affect OSIRIS-Apex and

654
00:35:33,531 --> 00:35:35,399
Whether any of the sample.

655
00:35:35,399 --> 00:35:41,222
That was collected today might get out
to laboratories before things go wrong.

656
00:35:41,305 --> 00:35:42,907
Now, these are these are great question.

657
00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:45,910
It's certainly something
that's on the top of many people's minds

658
00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:49,080
at this point
as we near the end of the fiscal year.

659
00:35:49,163 --> 00:35:52,800
And so I'll address the first question
first about Apex.

660
00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:54,051
As in the past,

661
00:35:54,051 --> 00:35:58,139
when there is a government shutdown,
we've been through this many times before.

662
00:35:58,222 --> 00:36:01,042
All of our operating missions
get accepted.

663
00:36:01,042 --> 00:36:03,411
We know that they are

664
00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:07,532
incredibly valuable assets
and so we generally get an exception

665
00:36:07,532 --> 00:36:12,270
for that to protect protect property,
which they are.

666
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:17,592
And so Apex will continue
operations as as normal.

667
00:36:17,658 --> 00:36:19,977
As far as the samples,

668
00:36:19,977 --> 00:36:22,847
we are committed to this process

669
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:26,484
that Dante mentioned
and ensuring that those samples

670
00:36:26,484 --> 00:36:31,055
are kept secure and safe for posterity.

671
00:36:31,138 --> 00:36:33,441
And so we will assure that they're safe.

672
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:38,763
There may be some delay, a little bit
of delay in the science analysis

673
00:36:38,846 --> 00:36:41,732
as we as soon as they're they're safe,
we will,

674
00:36:41,732 --> 00:36:45,152
you know, make sure that we step back
and do this where we're told to do,

675
00:36:45,152 --> 00:36:48,489
but we will assure that they're safe.

676
00:36:48,573 --> 00:36:49,156
Fantastic.

677
00:36:49,156 --> 00:36:51,809
We didn't take one more from the floor.

678
00:36:51,809 --> 00:36:56,130
And I'm sorry there are so many people,
but I believe right there in the back,

679
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,382
they have their hand up for a while
and then we will switch back

680
00:36:58,382 --> 00:37:01,168
to the phone lines before coming.

681
00:37:01,168 --> 00:37:03,738
Good afternoon.
Thank you all for joining us.

682
00:37:03,738 --> 00:37:05,990
My name is Spencer.
I'm with Fox 13 here in Utah.

683
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:07,375
Welcome to Utah.

684
00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:10,278
Glad you liked it here. And glad Cyrus.

685
00:37:10,278 --> 00:37:11,913
Liked it here as well.

686
00:37:11,913 --> 00:37:15,499
My question is for anyone who
wants to answer it, and I believe someone.

687
00:37:15,499 --> 00:37:18,319
Mentioned the Osiris Apex mission.

688
00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:21,022
Kind of handing that
to the next generation.

689
00:37:21,022 --> 00:37:23,040
How important is. It for. Things like.

690
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,595
This to inspire even the generation
after that to get involved in.

691
00:37:27,595 --> 00:37:28,579
STEM and.

692
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:32,099
Get involved in wanting to explore
outer space?

693
00:37:32,183 --> 00:37:35,553
I'll start off by saying, Yeah. So

694
00:37:35,636 --> 00:37:38,456
I think Osiris-rex is an excellent

695
00:37:38,456 --> 00:37:42,393
example of the inspirational value
of these kinds of activities.

696
00:37:42,476 --> 00:37:45,446
The reason why we should be
investing our taxpayer dollars

697
00:37:45,446 --> 00:37:48,599
in these missions of exploration,
of course, the science is fantastic.

698
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:52,253
The engineering is beyond amazing,
but the inspirational value

699
00:37:52,253 --> 00:37:55,256
is really where the long term
payoff comes from these.

700
00:37:55,406 --> 00:37:59,877
I started out as a young,
naive assistant professor in 2004

701
00:37:59,961 --> 00:38:04,715
when my mentor Mike Drake, believed in me,
brought me in as his deputy,

702
00:38:04,799 --> 00:38:09,287
and together we worked for seven years
to come up with a mission concept

703
00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:10,338
that was credible

704
00:38:10,338 --> 00:38:13,190
and that the agency felt like
they could invest in with

705
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:15,092
with the right amount
of scientific return.

706
00:38:15,092 --> 00:38:18,779
And I know Mike would be
incredibly proud of that, and it was a key

707
00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:23,451
part of his vision from day one
that this is about the future generations.

708
00:38:23,701 --> 00:38:27,171
And Danny DellaGiustina, who's
now the PI of the Cyrus Apex,

709
00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:32,159
I officially congratulated her right
when the SRC released from the spacecraft.

710
00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:36,047
My PI ship follows the capsule
and she takes the spacecraft

711
00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:37,398
on to the next adventure.

712
00:38:37,398 --> 00:38:40,918
She started with us in 2004,
as well as a freshman

713
00:38:41,118 --> 00:38:45,189
at the University of Arizona
when she enrolled in my asteroids seminar

714
00:38:45,272 --> 00:38:48,109
and she led a student experiment design

715
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:51,662
for a discovery version
of what we called Osiris.

716
00:38:51,662 --> 00:38:54,448
Back then, she was going to be
the student experiment lead.

717
00:38:54,448 --> 00:38:58,285
She left for a little while to go pursue
her advanced degrees, but came back

718
00:38:58,285 --> 00:39:02,673
as the image science imaging scientist
and now is the Deputy PI for OSIRIS-Rex.

719
00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:03,691
She'll continue in that role

720
00:39:03,691 --> 00:39:06,677
through the sample analysis phase
and also as the principal investigator

721
00:39:06,744 --> 00:39:07,912
for OSIRIS-Apex.

722
00:39:07,912 --> 00:39:09,347
And she is strongly committed

723
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:13,584
to bringing the future generations
along with her on that team.

724
00:39:13,818 --> 00:39:16,787
And and we've got five
and a half years to Apophis

725
00:39:16,787 --> 00:39:19,306
and then 18 months at that amazing target.

726
00:39:19,306 --> 00:39:22,510
And you're going to see a lot of young
people involved in that mission.

727
00:39:22,593 --> 00:39:25,413
And I can just tell you,
I love working with kids.

728
00:39:25,413 --> 00:39:27,448
I go out in the community quite a lot.

729
00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:30,451
Boys and Girls Clubs of Tucson,
Local Tucson schools.

730
00:39:30,601 --> 00:39:33,871
We're hosting a great event at the Tucson
Children's Museum right now

731
00:39:33,954 --> 00:39:36,390
to have the city celebrate this activity.

732
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:38,993
And I also teach undergraduate
and graduate students.

733
00:39:38,993 --> 00:39:43,130
And so many of them said,
We are here because of Osiris-rex.

734
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,734
We came to Tucson because the Osiris-rex
mission was based here,

735
00:39:46,967 --> 00:39:51,305
and it was just an amazing example
of what people can do.

736
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,442
When we put aside our differences,
we focus on a common goal.

737
00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:56,627
We can achieve great.

738
00:39:56,627 --> 00:40:00,047
This country can achieve great things,
but we have to work together

739
00:40:00,047 --> 00:40:01,549
to make that happen.

740
00:40:01,549 --> 00:40:05,169
I'd like to add that if I could.

741
00:40:05,252 --> 00:40:07,555
So I think that's a wonderful question,

742
00:40:07,555 --> 00:40:12,026
and a big part of why we do these missions
is inspiring the next generation.

743
00:40:12,026 --> 00:40:13,561
And I'm a perfect example of that.

744
00:40:13,561 --> 00:40:16,197
I grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont.

745
00:40:16,197 --> 00:40:18,632
I was inspired by the Voyager missions,

746
00:40:18,632 --> 00:40:21,869
by some of the early space
shuttle missions.

747
00:40:21,952 --> 00:40:25,623
You know, it was that that got me
interested in math and science.

748
00:40:25,706 --> 00:40:28,709
And then it was NASA Research

749
00:40:28,709 --> 00:40:33,948
that helped to fund my graduate studies
and brought me to working from a farm

750
00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:37,368
in Vermont to doing a job
at the Goddard Space Flight Center,

751
00:40:37,368 --> 00:40:40,921
where I met an amazing mentor,
Gerry Soffen

752
00:40:41,005 --> 00:40:44,909
So that is just one of the biggest reasons
why we do these missions.

753
00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:46,644
We're talking all about the science.

754
00:40:46,644 --> 00:40:50,397
But in order for our nation
to be competitive in the future,

755
00:40:50,397 --> 00:40:55,169
we need young people to want to study
math and science and technical fields.

756
00:40:55,369 --> 00:40:58,105
And this is just one aspect of that.

757
00:40:58,105 --> 00:41:02,860
But it's an amazing, rewarding aspect
to work on some of these great challenges,

758
00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:05,696
and it's kind of teamwork
that Dante talked about.

759
00:41:05,696 --> 00:41:07,348
So thank you for that. Question.

760
00:41:07,348 --> 00:41:08,182
Thank you so much.

761
00:41:08,182 --> 00:41:11,752
Going back to the phone lines,
we are going to take a question

762
00:41:11,752 --> 00:41:23,080
from Marcia
Dunne with the Associated Press.

763
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:29,403
Not hearing you yet, Marcia,

764
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,522
and it's

765
00:41:31,522 --> 00:41:31,822
great.

766
00:41:31,822 --> 00:41:37,178
Well, I am going to go on
to the next person, though.

767
00:41:37,261 --> 00:41:40,648
I think Marcia might be on there twice,
So we might need to go to her

768
00:41:40,648 --> 00:41:43,217
other phone line
and see if that one works.

769
00:41:43,217 --> 00:41:45,803
For now, though,
we are going to go to Robin Andrews

770
00:41:45,803 --> 00:41:50,307
with popular Mechanics.

771
00:41:50,391 --> 00:41:50,875
Hi. Yeah,

772
00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:54,278
I'm kind of fascinated by the fact
that the council

773
00:41:54,295 --> 00:41:58,098
has an explosive ordinance expert
to check for any unexploded munitions.

774
00:41:58,249 --> 00:42:03,137
So does that mean that was a very small
but non-zero chance that the capsule,

775
00:42:03,137 --> 00:42:07,324
after its odyssey, could have softly
touched down with an unexploded munition

776
00:42:07,408 --> 00:42:10,127
and been blown to bits
or was that just just

777
00:42:10,127 --> 00:42:13,130
the extra extras like.

778
00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:15,499
Well, I'll take that
because I've been the primary person

779
00:42:15,499 --> 00:42:19,620
working with our colleagues at the Air
Force here who've just been amazing hosts.

780
00:42:19,703 --> 00:42:23,641
And I'll just say that the Utah Test
and Training Range is an amazing place

781
00:42:23,641 --> 00:42:24,625
to land a sample.

782
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:26,961
It's very flat, it's free of hazards

783
00:42:26,961 --> 00:42:30,864
and they have these amazing tracking
resources here, but it is a test range.

784
00:42:30,864 --> 00:42:34,702
And so they do all kinds of stuff here
and safety is our number one priority.

785
00:42:34,702 --> 00:42:36,237
So this is a big place.

786
00:42:36,237 --> 00:42:39,773
The first thing that the Air Force does
when they send their personnel

787
00:42:39,773 --> 00:42:42,393
out in the range is
make sure there's no unexploded ordnance.

788
00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:44,728
We add unexploded ordnance,
check on our capsule

789
00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:47,731
when it arrived in the clean room,
that was the first thing we did.

790
00:42:47,848 --> 00:42:50,517
So this is just kind of a
standard procedure of safety first.

791
00:42:50,517 --> 00:42:54,755
And that's what we did out there today.

792
00:42:54,838 --> 00:42:55,739
Great.

793
00:42:55,739 --> 00:42:57,841
I will try Marcia Dunn, one more time.

794
00:42:57,841 --> 00:42:59,843
Now that we've seemed to have pulled
a second line from her.

795
00:42:59,843 --> 00:43:04,231
So Marsha Dunn with the Associated Press,
let's see if this one works.

796
00:43:04,315 --> 00:43:07,918
Hi, Can you hear me?

797
00:43:08,002 --> 00:43:11,005
Can you hear.

798
00:43:11,171 --> 00:43:13,340
I'm going to ask my question.

799
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:13,641
Hello?

800
00:43:13,641 --> 00:43:17,211
I'm wondering if the capsule
was dented, dinged, bent at all.

801
00:43:17,211 --> 00:43:18,178
It touched down.

802
00:43:18,178 --> 00:43:21,966
And any idea what this final touch down
speed was?

803
00:43:22,049 --> 00:43:22,833
And Dante,

804
00:43:22,833 --> 00:43:24,051
how overwhelming was it

805
00:43:24,051 --> 00:43:27,054
when you finally got your eyes
on the capsule and got up close to it?

806
00:43:27,288 --> 00:43:29,423
Thanks. Sir.

807
00:43:29,423 --> 00:43:30,808
Well, being one of the first people

808
00:43:30,808 --> 00:43:32,993
that got to get out there
and see the capsule, it looked great.

809
00:43:32,993 --> 00:43:36,330
I mean, it was charred,
but it came in at 27,000 miles an hour.

810
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:39,300
So we expected that. Otherwise,
it looked perfect.

811
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:42,052
There was no sign of any damage or

812
00:43:42,052 --> 00:43:45,055
distortion to the heat shield
or the back shell that we could see.

813
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,242
There was a little bit of char
left in the tiny little crater

814
00:43:48,242 --> 00:43:51,228
that it made literally
like about this big across.

815
00:43:51,362 --> 00:43:54,348
So it was pretty much we stuck the landing
and that's what

816
00:43:54,381 --> 00:43:55,849
Rex has done consistently.

817
00:43:55,849 --> 00:44:00,187
So I wasn't too surprised,
but it was like seeing an old friend

818
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:04,842
that you hadn't seen for a long time,
and it was great to see it.

819
00:44:04,858 --> 00:44:06,026
It was just great to see it.

820
00:44:06,026 --> 00:44:10,164
I did want to give it a hug, but,
you know, I knew I'd be all city

821
00:44:10,164 --> 00:44:12,499
and we were trying to collect
environmental samples,

822
00:44:12,499 --> 00:44:14,034
so that really wouldn't have gone over
well.

823
00:44:14,034 --> 00:44:15,769
But yeah, it was amazing.

824
00:44:15,769 --> 00:44:18,322
I was there
when it was encapsulated in the fairing.

825
00:44:18,322 --> 00:44:22,192
I was there when it was assembled
and it was installed on the spacecraft.

826
00:44:22,192 --> 00:44:26,530
I was there when it was nothing
but a PowerPoint on a slide in

827
00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:28,766
and a proposal
that we were submitting that asset

828
00:44:28,766 --> 00:44:31,218
with the stream that we were going
to bring back samples from Bennu

829
00:44:31,218 --> 00:44:33,987
So it was amazing and emotional.

830
00:44:33,987 --> 00:44:35,939
I've been emotional all day,
and that was one of the key

831
00:44:35,939 --> 00:44:39,159
moments for me,
was seeing that I knew we had done it,

832
00:44:39,243 --> 00:44:41,578
that we had pulled it off.

833
00:44:41,578 --> 00:44:46,650
As incredible as it seemed
all those years ago, it came to be

834
00:44:46,734 --> 00:44:46,967
great.

835
00:44:46,967 --> 00:44:50,254
Thank you for coming back to the room
here.

836
00:44:50,337 --> 00:44:55,592
Please, uh, brighten the front.

837
00:44:55,676 --> 00:44:59,279
Thank you.

838
00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:01,131
Jonathan Amos, BBC News.

839
00:45:01,131 --> 00:45:02,850
Can I just go back to Eileen?

840
00:45:02,850 --> 00:45:07,204
When you took the the the heat shield off
and the on the back show,

841
00:45:07,287 --> 00:45:12,426
was there any evidence that you might have
had some spillage of sample

842
00:45:12,509 --> 00:45:17,081
being on those surfaces
when the tagsam was put away?

843
00:45:17,147 --> 00:45:19,500
I mean, it was leaking, right?

844
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:23,370
So I'm just I'm just wondering
if there are little specks,

845
00:45:23,454 --> 00:45:27,508
little particles on those surfaces

846
00:45:27,591 --> 00:45:29,576
that need to be picked up.

847
00:45:29,576 --> 00:45:31,862
That's part of the procedure is

848
00:45:31,862 --> 00:45:36,116
to methodically go through and investigate
that.

849
00:45:36,116 --> 00:45:41,422
Our our purpose here
in support of the science and engineering

850
00:45:41,422 --> 00:45:45,392
teams is specifically to document

851
00:45:45,392 --> 00:45:49,363
and recover anything that could be loose.

852
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:55,052
The I have not seen the

853
00:45:55,135 --> 00:45:56,670
aeroshell portion

854
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:59,573
taken off, but when I was over there
in the clean room

855
00:45:59,573 --> 00:46:05,529
back Shell was was removed
and there wasn't anything

856
00:46:05,612 --> 00:46:07,948
optically visible

857
00:46:07,948 --> 00:46:11,618
from the exterior of the clean room.

858
00:46:11,702 --> 00:46:14,788
My team is working in the clean room

859
00:46:14,788 --> 00:46:17,791
in concert with the Lockheed Martin

860
00:46:17,991 --> 00:46:21,178
engineers and the science team,

861
00:46:21,261 --> 00:46:25,399
ensuring that we document and and recover

862
00:46:25,649 --> 00:46:28,919
anything that could have spilled out.

863
00:46:29,153 --> 00:46:31,922
But at the time I saw it,

864
00:46:31,922 --> 00:46:34,858
there was no evidence that they're

865
00:46:34,858 --> 00:46:38,579
still working in the clean room
this afternoon.

866
00:46:38,662 --> 00:46:41,515
So there is still a possibility

867
00:46:41,515 --> 00:46:44,518
that there could be some of those samples.

868
00:46:44,518 --> 00:46:47,521
They will be documented and recovered

869
00:46:47,538 --> 00:46:53,660
and put into containers to be brought
to the Johnson Space Center, just like

870
00:46:53,660 --> 00:46:59,316
the science canister, to make them
available to the scientific community.

871
00:46:59,399 --> 00:47:00,751
That's part of the process.

872
00:47:00,751 --> 00:47:04,354
We're not yet through that process.

873
00:47:04,438 --> 00:47:04,771
Great.

874
00:47:04,771 --> 00:47:05,572
Thank you so much.

875
00:47:05,572 --> 00:47:08,575
Again, one more from the floor.

876
00:47:08,575 --> 00:47:10,310
Also in the front row

877
00:47:10,310 --> 00:47:13,864
here, this this woman on the aisle

878
00:47:13,947 --> 00:47:15,833
with the microphone is coming around.

879
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:18,836
It's great because it can

880
00:47:19,019 --> 00:47:20,454
in the front row on the aisle here.

881
00:47:20,454 --> 00:47:22,022
Thank you.

882
00:47:22,022 --> 00:47:22,489
Howdy.

883
00:47:22,489 --> 00:47:24,992
Alyssa McGraw at Texas A&M University.

884
00:47:24,992 --> 00:47:28,228
Sounds like the range of grain sizes
may not be known in.

885
00:47:28,228 --> 00:47:30,113
The canister yet, but could somebody.

886
00:47:30,113 --> 00:47:33,567
Speculate
on how this could enhance thermal.

887
00:47:33,567 --> 00:47:36,570
Inertia
or a modeling of asteroid surfaces?

888
00:47:36,737 --> 00:47:38,488
I'll take that.

889
00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:41,358
That's one of the key
scientific objectives

890
00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:45,579
for our sample analysis program
is to characterize the thermal properties.

891
00:47:45,662 --> 00:47:49,550
When we were at the asteroid
and when we were even before that,

892
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:53,921
through our telescopic
astronomical campaign, we had tracking

893
00:47:53,987 --> 00:47:58,942
data on this asteroid back to 1999
all the way through departure in 2021.

894
00:47:58,942 --> 00:48:00,294
So a fantastic baseline.

895
00:48:00,294 --> 00:48:01,879
And we did see thermal effects,

896
00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:05,399
the Yarkovsky effect,
which I know you're an expert in

897
00:48:05,482 --> 00:48:07,200
causing a decrease in the

898
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,621
orbital velocity and therefore the sun
a major axis of the asteroid.

899
00:48:10,704 --> 00:48:13,674
So absolutely, we have Dr.

900
00:48:13,674 --> 00:48:15,392
Andy Ryan at the University of Arizona

901
00:48:15,392 --> 00:48:17,995
who leads the physical
and thermal analysis Working Group.

902
00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:20,847
We have partners
in Japan, partners in Canada,

903
00:48:20,847 --> 00:48:22,950
as well
as some special laboratory equipment

904
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:25,018
that we've designed
right at the University of Arizona

905
00:48:25,018 --> 00:48:28,655
to measure thermal conductivity,
thermal skin depth and

906
00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:32,659
bulk density, and other key parameters
that will feed into understanding

907
00:48:32,659 --> 00:48:33,744
the thermal inertia,

908
00:48:33,744 --> 00:48:37,047
allowing us to do an even better job
of constraining the energy balance

909
00:48:37,047 --> 00:48:40,817
in the regolith of the asteroid, which is
one of the top science objectives.

910
00:48:40,817 --> 00:48:43,186
It's called out in our level
one requirement to do that actually.

911
00:48:43,186 --> 00:48:46,523
So yeah, the big part of our program
and feeds

912
00:48:46,523 --> 00:48:50,077
into the planetary defense initiatives
because these kinds of parameters

913
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,713
really influence
future trajectories of these objects.

914
00:48:52,713 --> 00:48:54,381
So if you want to have an accurate
prediction of where

915
00:48:54,381 --> 00:48:57,601
they're going to be in the future,
you can't just rely on Newton's laws

916
00:48:57,684 --> 00:48:58,919
or even Einstein.

917
00:48:58,919 --> 00:49:00,621
You still have to go
to the thermal properties

918
00:49:00,621 --> 00:49:04,107
and yarkovsky
to really get a complete solution.

919
00:49:04,191 --> 00:49:04,491
Great.

920
00:49:04,491 --> 00:49:05,876
Thank you so much.

921
00:49:05,876 --> 00:49:07,861
We are going back to the phone lines.

922
00:49:07,861 --> 00:49:10,764
Our next call is from Nell Greenfieldboyce

923
00:49:10,764 --> 00:49:15,002
with National Public Radio.

924
00:49:15,085 --> 00:49:17,154
Hey, thanks for taking my question.

925
00:49:17,154 --> 00:49:18,689
This is for Dante.

926
00:49:18,689 --> 00:49:22,909
So the first thing you guys might be able
to look at is just, you know, on the.

927
00:49:22,909 --> 00:49:24,061
Outside.

928
00:49:24,061 --> 00:49:27,030
Of the canister or the sample container.

929
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:30,450
I mean, the the collecting devices
inside the canister.

930
00:49:30,534 --> 00:49:31,518
Like what?

931
00:49:31,518 --> 00:49:34,705
What tests will be done on the dust
and what will you be able.

932
00:49:34,705 --> 00:49:35,739
To tell from it?

933
00:49:35,739 --> 00:49:38,909
Like,
what will be the first thing you learn

934
00:49:38,992 --> 00:49:41,244
that we should know in the next few days?

935
00:49:41,244 --> 00:49:43,764
Yeah,
we have a great suite of analyzes planned.

936
00:49:43,764 --> 00:49:47,150
We call this our Tiger team for a quick
look analysis of the sample there.

937
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:50,937
There's some great instruments right there
at Johnson Space Center we'll be doing

938
00:49:50,937 --> 00:49:54,508
and I'll get a little technical here,
but for a transform infrared spectroscopy,

939
00:49:54,691 --> 00:49:55,792
which will give us a pretty quick

940
00:49:55,792 --> 00:49:58,795
assessment of the range of minerals
that we see in there.

941
00:49:58,829 --> 00:50:04,317
We have scanning electron microscopy
and energy dispersive spectrascopy

942
00:50:04,401 --> 00:50:07,037
scanning electron microscopy
with energy dispersive spectroscopy

943
00:50:07,037 --> 00:50:08,905
to give us elemental abundances.

944
00:50:08,905 --> 00:50:11,958
We'll be sending some of the material
to our partners at the Natural History

945
00:50:11,958 --> 00:50:15,078
Museum in London
who are experts in X-ray diffraction

946
00:50:15,078 --> 00:50:18,815
and characterizing bulk mineralogy
using that material.

947
00:50:18,899 --> 00:50:22,586
So what we're really looking for
is hypothesis one.

948
00:50:22,586 --> 00:50:24,321
And if you're interested,
I posted the sample

949
00:50:24,321 --> 00:50:27,474
analysis plan on archive.org
so anybody can download it.

950
00:50:27,474 --> 00:50:29,760
It's free to all. It's about 300 pages.

951
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,547
So just get ready
if you're really wanting to dig into that.

952
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:37,350
It's quite an engrossing read, I think,

953
00:50:37,434 --> 00:50:42,572
and it'll lay out hypothesis one,
which is did we accurately characterize

954
00:50:42,572 --> 00:50:46,860
the bulk mineralogy and chemistry
of the surface of the asteroid, i.e.

955
00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:48,028
did our remote sensing instruments

956
00:50:48,028 --> 00:50:51,031
work and did our data processing
lead us to the right conclusions?

957
00:50:51,114 --> 00:50:52,883
So I'm going to be looking for the basics.

958
00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:55,469
Are there clay minerals
there? Are there carbonate minerals?

959
00:50:55,469 --> 00:50:57,087
Are there organic molecules?

960
00:50:57,087 --> 00:50:58,705
Do we see the iron oxides?

961
00:50:58,705 --> 00:51:01,108
The other things that we predicted
on the asteroid surface?

962
00:51:01,108 --> 00:51:02,943
I'm sure there's going to be surprises
in there.

963
00:51:02,943 --> 00:51:04,411
Once you get into the dust scale,

964
00:51:04,411 --> 00:51:06,947
you will probably start
to see a wide level of diversity.

965
00:51:06,947 --> 00:51:11,468
But it's kind of like a sneak peek
of what might be in store for us.

966
00:51:11,551 --> 00:51:14,821
We don't know if the dust,
what we call the finds,

967
00:51:14,821 --> 00:51:17,541
there's intermediates
courses and large stones.

968
00:51:17,541 --> 00:51:21,745
There might be variations in mineralogy
and composition by particle size.

969
00:51:21,978 --> 00:51:26,099
The larger ones may be more robust
to disaggregation and the loose stuff

970
00:51:26,099 --> 00:51:30,087
like the one we crushed when we tagged
the surface may be preferentially

971
00:51:30,087 --> 00:51:31,171
in the fine grained component.

972
00:51:31,171 --> 00:51:34,441
So it really is to give us a sense of
what are we dealing with?

973
00:51:34,524 --> 00:51:38,278
Are we way out of the box in terms of what
we built this big plan around?

974
00:51:38,278 --> 00:51:40,580
Or does it look like, Yeah, we got it
pretty close.

975
00:51:40,580 --> 00:51:43,083
There's some surprises,
but we can still continue

976
00:51:43,083 --> 00:51:46,953
with the sample analysis
plan that we laid out.

977
00:51:47,037 --> 00:51:47,671
All right.

978
00:51:47,671 --> 00:51:50,907
Our next question is also from the phone
line, Stephen Clark

979
00:51:50,907 --> 00:51:58,799
with Ars Technica.

980
00:51:58,882 --> 00:52:01,151
I thank you for taking my question.

981
00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:02,636
It was my questions
have been asked and answered.

982
00:52:02,636 --> 00:52:05,639
But I want to follow up with if you get

983
00:52:05,822 --> 00:52:08,642
your answers a little earlier,
take you back inside the helicopter

984
00:52:08,642 --> 00:52:10,343
with you this morning.

985
00:52:10,343 --> 00:52:14,798
I think if I understood your response
earlier, some of the calls over the radio

986
00:52:14,881 --> 00:52:19,653
receiving about the rate of descent, what
we're exactly what you were expecting,

987
00:52:19,736 --> 00:52:24,958
you know, the drones who may or may or may
or may not have been deployed on time,

988
00:52:25,041 --> 00:52:28,712
just on the video
when I didn't see the sign of the drogue,

989
00:52:28,712 --> 00:52:31,698
I certainly had my heart pumping

990
00:52:31,848 --> 00:52:34,367
to see if you could talk a little bit more
about your feelings

991
00:52:34,367 --> 00:52:39,055
inside the helicopter as some of the calls
maybe exactly when you were expecting.

992
00:52:39,206 --> 00:52:41,508
Yeah, I'll take you back
even earlier in the morning, Stephen,

993
00:52:41,508 --> 00:52:45,111
because it started out
there was several key milestones today

994
00:52:45,111 --> 00:52:46,079
that I was really paying

995
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,983
attention to, things that we talked
about a decade ago and longer.

996
00:52:49,983 --> 00:52:52,202
And it's like, okay, now, today it's real.

997
00:52:52,202 --> 00:52:54,354
The first one was the go
no go pull, right?

998
00:52:54,354 --> 00:52:55,822
We had to get approval.

999
00:52:55,822 --> 00:52:59,342
We had to get the flight dynamics team,
the entry descent landing team.

1000
00:52:59,342 --> 00:53:02,329
The spacecraft team had to say
there already the range had to be ready.

1001
00:53:02,462 --> 00:53:05,882
And of course, our project manager
had to have the final authority on that.

1002
00:53:06,082 --> 00:53:09,152
We knew we were in good shape there,
but you never know, right?

1003
00:53:09,152 --> 00:53:11,071
It's like something could have happened
in the wee

1004
00:53:11,071 --> 00:53:13,190
hours of the morning
where I was barely sleeping.

1005
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,274
That changed that poll.

1006
00:53:14,274 --> 00:53:19,229
So to hear everybody unanimously go,
that was that was the first relief.

1007
00:53:19,312 --> 00:53:23,633
And then it was powering up
the batteries inside the SRC

1008
00:53:23,633 --> 00:53:27,087
because they had not been there, been
no telemetry from them for over

1009
00:53:27,087 --> 00:53:30,440
seven years since we launched
because they were passive data.

1010
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,260
They had a layer on top
that prevented current from flowing.

1011
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:34,878
We had to burn that layer off.

1012
00:53:34,878 --> 00:53:37,547
So I got the news 11.44 volts.

1013
00:53:37,547 --> 00:53:38,481
Both batteries

1014
00:53:38,481 --> 00:53:40,817
because this prime and redundant
both were online

1015
00:53:40,817 --> 00:53:42,836
and then I knew the parachutes
at least had power

1016
00:53:42,836 --> 00:53:44,371
because of the batteries were dead.

1017
00:53:44,371 --> 00:53:47,657
We knew we were coming in hard
already early in the morning.

1018
00:53:47,841 --> 00:53:50,961
And then, of course, release
of the capsule from the spacecraft.

1019
00:53:51,211 --> 00:53:52,729
We had Doppler tracking data.

1020
00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:56,549
There were spacecraft indication that the
commands had all gone according to plan

1021
00:53:56,633 --> 00:53:59,219
so that it was it was on its own
and then the divert maneuver

1022
00:53:59,219 --> 00:54:01,488
so that the spacecraft
wasn't following the capsule.

1023
00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:05,575
And so everything on the spacecraft kind
of set me up into a reasonably good mood.

1024
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:08,178
And then I knew
it was all about the parachute.

1025
00:54:08,178 --> 00:54:10,614
That's
the only thing that I needed to know

1026
00:54:10,614 --> 00:54:11,881
was that that parachute deployed.

1027
00:54:11,881 --> 00:54:15,485
So obviously I was keyed into that
more than anything.

1028
00:54:15,568 --> 00:54:17,687
It was hard to hear in the helicopter.

1029
00:54:17,687 --> 00:54:18,922
I didn't have the cool video.

1030
00:54:18,922 --> 00:54:21,207
I couldn't see what was on screen.

1031
00:54:21,207 --> 00:54:24,210
And maybe that was a good thing
because I heard it was a little bit of a

1032
00:54:24,327 --> 00:54:25,645
pulse pounding moment.

1033
00:54:25,645 --> 00:54:28,531
And I do ask myself, how many of those can
you have in one lifetime?

1034
00:54:28,531 --> 00:54:30,350
Right. And I might be reaching my limit,

1035
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:32,852
I'm not sure,
but it kind of feels like it today.

1036
00:54:32,852 --> 00:54:36,356
And so it was you know, I knew
we were looking at around 100,000 feet.

1037
00:54:36,356 --> 00:54:37,857
We should get confirmation of drogue.

1038
00:54:37,857 --> 00:54:40,577
And, you know,
we had our amazing range safety officer

1039
00:54:40,577 --> 00:54:43,580
Jasmine, I know if you're here,
but she's been great to work with.

1040
00:54:43,697 --> 00:54:47,667
And so she was the one that was actually
getting the callbacks and then and really

1041
00:54:47,817 --> 00:54:49,052
relaying that back to us.

1042
00:54:49,052 --> 00:54:50,670
And I was like, Do we have drogue?

1043
00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:52,222
And she's like,
They're not calling Drogue.

1044
00:54:52,222 --> 00:54:55,976
And I were like, We're at 60,000 feet
and I think I looked at Scott Sanford

1045
00:54:55,976 --> 00:54:57,827
and I was like, I don't know.

1046
00:54:57,827 --> 00:55:00,146
I said, We should have drogue,
but it could be coverage.

1047
00:55:00,146 --> 00:55:01,431
It could be that we're not seeing it.

1048
00:55:01,431 --> 00:55:04,284
I know the helicopter was
was having trouble because of the location

1049
00:55:04,284 --> 00:55:08,621
where we had touched down and relays
to get the video feed back here.

1050
00:55:08,688 --> 00:55:14,010
And so I was mentally preparing myself,
like for the worst case scenario,

1051
00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:16,313
I always said,
this is like you're the championship game.

1052
00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:20,567
You've just thrown the touchdown winning
pass and you fumble it out of bounds.

1053
00:55:20,567 --> 00:55:22,052
That's what my nightmare was.

1054
00:55:22,052 --> 00:55:24,270
It's like,
I can't lose this at the last minute.

1055
00:55:24,270 --> 00:55:26,389
And so I was just trying to make sure

1056
00:55:26,389 --> 00:55:30,176
I didn't totally break down
in front of an international audience.

1057
00:55:30,176 --> 00:55:30,427
Right?

1058
00:55:30,427 --> 00:55:30,710
And it's like,

1059
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:34,497
okay, you got to keep it together
when you get out of this helicopter,

1060
00:55:34,581 --> 00:55:37,167
deal with it,
whatever is there, and then mourn

1061
00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:38,418
if that's what you're going to have to do.

1062
00:55:38,418 --> 00:55:42,322
But then within minutes,
you know, Jasmine said, they shoot.

1063
00:55:42,539 --> 00:55:46,860
And I was like, that's that's
when I just emotionally just let it go.

1064
00:55:46,943 --> 00:55:48,712
You know,
Tears were streaming down my eyes.

1065
00:55:48,712 --> 00:55:51,931
I was like, okay, that's the only thing
I needed to hear from this point on.

1066
00:55:51,931 --> 00:55:54,017
We know what to do.
We're safe, we're home.

1067
00:55:54,017 --> 00:55:55,135
We did it.

1068
00:55:55,135 --> 00:55:56,753
As I told Lori as we were getting ready.

1069
00:55:56,753 --> 00:55:59,389
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
right.

1070
00:55:59,389 --> 00:56:00,357
From soup to nuts.

1071
00:56:00,357 --> 00:56:02,642
Everything is on the flight program
for us.

1072
00:56:02,642 --> 00:56:04,461
Osiris-Rex went smashingly

1073
00:56:04,461 --> 00:56:05,762
 This just smashingly

1074
00:56:05,762 --> 00:56:08,748
Well, and so enormous pride and gratitude

1075
00:56:08,882 --> 00:56:11,851
and and and excitement of the next phase.

1076
00:56:11,851 --> 00:56:13,470
Sample analysis.

1077
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:14,521
So much.

1078
00:56:14,521 --> 00:56:18,141
We have time for one more from the room
especially if our panelists are quick

1079
00:56:18,141 --> 00:56:21,945
in their answers.

1080
00:56:22,028 --> 00:56:22,612
I will

1081
00:56:22,612 --> 00:56:25,615
take this gentleman right here,
the dark blue shirt.

1082
00:56:25,648 --> 00:56:27,917
Um, passing it from the other side.

1083
00:56:27,917 --> 00:56:32,222
It's coming to you
if you look the other way for thanks.

1084
00:56:32,305 --> 00:56:39,429
Yes. I'm Justin Davenport from NSF.

1085
00:56:39,512 --> 00:56:43,116
If Bennu is

1086
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,118
a carbonaceous asteroid

1087
00:56:45,118 --> 00:56:50,256
and we we now have samples from several

1088
00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:53,276
from several asteroids,

1089
00:56:53,276 --> 00:56:56,463
which type of asteroid do you

1090
00:56:56,613 --> 00:57:01,468
does the scientific community
community want in the future?

1091
00:57:01,468 --> 00:57:04,821
Which type of asteroids

1092
00:57:04,971 --> 00:57:09,359
are you looking at for the next sample
mission?

1093
00:57:09,442 --> 00:57:11,611
Well,
I can tell you my personal preference,

1094
00:57:11,611 --> 00:57:14,747
which is we're go
and it's a it's a decadal survey priority.

1095
00:57:14,747 --> 00:57:16,249
It's comet sample return. Right.

1096
00:57:16,249 --> 00:57:21,237
The next big small body sample return
challenge is comet sample return.

1097
00:57:21,321 --> 00:57:21,588
Right.

1098
00:57:21,588 --> 00:57:23,606
Because the one thing
that we're not getting with

1099
00:57:23,606 --> 00:57:27,477
carbonaceous asteroids are the volatiles,
the things that make ices.

1100
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,680
And those are critical, you know,
especially with these icy surfaces

1101
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,648
getting irradiated,

1102
00:57:31,648 --> 00:57:35,168
lots of interesting organic molecules
can form under those environments.

1103
00:57:35,251 --> 00:57:37,787
So we've been working as a team.

1104
00:57:37,787 --> 00:57:40,557
And these things, you know,
you got to stick with them

1105
00:57:40,557 --> 00:57:42,709
to get a comet sample return mission

1106
00:57:42,709 --> 00:57:47,380
credibly propose to NASA's at the next
we hope new frontiers opportunity.

1107
00:57:47,464 --> 00:57:51,751
We think we'll be really competitive
in that in that environment.

1108
00:57:51,835 --> 00:57:54,771
So I am sorry
we don't have time for more questions.

1109
00:57:54,771 --> 00:57:58,374
For those who didn't get their questions
answered, please do write an email in

1110
00:57:58,558 --> 00:58:01,411
and we will try to get your questions
answered.

1111
00:58:01,411 --> 00:58:02,779
So stay tuned.

1112
00:58:02,779 --> 00:58:05,598
You can follow the rest of the mission.

1113
00:58:05,598 --> 00:58:08,184
NASA.gov Osiris-rex.

1114
00:58:08,184 --> 00:58:13,640
And we will have more information soon
about leaving tomorrow on the C-17,

1115
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,444
which is parked just outside
to get those samples to Houston.

1116
00:58:18,678 --> 00:58:23,099
We're going to end with some highlights.

1117
00:58:23,183 --> 00:58:24,050
And she was at.

1118
00:58:24,050 --> 00:58:27,437
The milestone as our city is experiencing

1119
00:58:27,437 --> 00:58:30,723
maximum medium to maximum deceleration.

1120
00:58:30,807 --> 00:58:33,293
So you just heard right
there, we're experiencing that 5000 degree

1121
00:58:33,293 --> 00:58:35,028
Fahrenheit maximum heating.

1122
00:58:35,028 --> 00:58:35,845
Ideal, Miles.

1123
00:58:35,845 --> 00:58:39,749
So we have confirmed performance. Wow.

1124
00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:42,051
And after an exhilarating

1125
00:58:42,051 --> 00:58:45,538
streak across Earth's atmosphere,
we have parachute deployment.

1126
00:58:45,538 --> 00:58:47,907
You can see
just a sigh of relief from the team.

1127
00:58:47,907 --> 00:58:49,592
I can hear some applause here.

1128
00:58:49,592 --> 00:58:52,529
The team, the WB 57. Do

1129
00:58:52,612 --> 00:58:53,980
touchdown.

1130
00:58:53,980 --> 00:58:57,350
I repeat EDL as far as touchdown.

1131
00:58:57,383 --> 00:59:00,420
And touchdown of the OSIRIS-Rex
sample return capsule.

1132
00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:05,642
A journey of a billion miles to asteroid
BENNU and back has come to an end

1133
00:59:05,725 --> 00:59:08,728
marking America's
first sample return mission of its kind

1134
00:59:08,761 --> 00:59:11,781
and opening a time capsule
to our ancient solar system.

1135
00:59:11,998 --> 00:59:14,450
A sample carrying fixture.

1136
00:59:14,450 --> 00:59:18,204
Of the operations WB has located
the parachute on the ground.

1137
00:59:18,288 --> 00:59:21,424
And you just heard that confirmation from
that high altitude plane locating that.
