1 00:00:11,333 --> 00:00:13,800 Throughout America's story, 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,633 there are defining days, the days 3 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:21,033 when minds change, hearts fill 4 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:25,000 and imagination, soul 5 00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:28,500 trains and visions transform the trajectory 6 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:33,400 of the American story, which is our story 7 00:00:33,466 --> 00:00:37,900 doing what is hard and achieving what is great. 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,266 That is what stirs humankind. 9 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:44,966 That's what unites us 10 00:00:44,966 --> 00:00:47,966 with inspiration and innovation. 11 00:00:48,133 --> 00:00:51,566 No, Herculean effort is too large. 12 00:00:51,633 --> 00:00:55,800 No moonshot is beyond our reach and lift off of heart 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,266 on this one. 14 00:00:57,266 --> 00:00:58,800 A new generation. 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,566 The Artemis generation stands ready, 16 00:01:02,666 --> 00:01:05,866 ready to return humanity to the moon. 17 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:09,700 And then to take us farther than ever before. 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:16,966 To Mars. 19 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:19,666 Let us continue the quest 20 00:01:19,666 --> 00:01:23,300 to unfold this universe 21 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,900 and let us continue 22 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:28,733 to find unity in our discovery. 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,500 So together, let us continue to dream 24 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:37,266 the impossible dream that now becomes real. 25 00:01:37,333 --> 00:01:42,266 Then let us traverse the untouched terrain of 26 00:01:42,266 --> 00:02:57,733 the once unreachable stars. 27 00:02:57,833 --> 00:03:00,400 Good afternoon, folks. 28 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,366 Thank you for being here. 29 00:03:02,366 --> 00:03:05,600 Those videos get me pumped up as much as I can 30 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,633 with a sinus infection. 31 00:03:06,633 --> 00:03:09,733 I'm sorry from little hoarse, but it's exciting 32 00:03:09,733 --> 00:03:12,733 to see the accomplishments of 33 00:03:12,933 --> 00:03:16,500 what we're doing as an agency and to see so many parts of that 34 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:17,600 that have 35 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,966 a martial fingerprint on it throughout those missions. 36 00:03:21,033 --> 00:03:23,666 And if I can be self-indulgent, I can be proud of our team 37 00:03:23,666 --> 00:03:28,233 for their contributions to what we're doing as an agency. 38 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:29,300 We're honored and delighted 39 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:31,466 to have the agency leadership with us today. 40 00:03:31,466 --> 00:03:33,666 Administrator Nelson, Deputy Mr. 41 00:03:33,666 --> 00:03:36,800 Melroy Associate Administrator Cabana and Deputy 42 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,066 Associate Administrator Swales, thank you for being here 43 00:03:40,166 --> 00:03:41,600 and joining with our workforce there. 44 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Looking forward to hearing from you. 45 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,033 Our Marshall team is coming off the victory 46 00:03:47,033 --> 00:03:48,433 lap from the Artemus One mission 47 00:03:48,433 --> 00:03:50,933 and just a tremendous test flight 48 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:54,533 that has proven out our generational rocket. 49 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,500 That's a forefront, 50 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:58,700 that's a foundation for the Army's missions. 51 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,366 And the team is now laser focused on Artemus to 52 00:04:02,433 --> 00:04:05,333 as we prepare to send humans back around the moon 53 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:07,966 for the first time in 50 plus years, 54 00:04:07,966 --> 00:04:10,666 while we're also preparing with our industry partners, 55 00:04:10,666 --> 00:04:12,700 the lander that's going to return 56 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:14,200 humans to the moon, the first woman, 57 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,700 the first person of color to the surface, and that work 58 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,900 along with many other activities being done by you guys, 59 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,333 this tremendous group of team members. 60 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,100 They're pulling together with our industry partners 61 00:04:30,166 --> 00:04:33,366 and our other centers to accomplish some audacious 62 00:04:33,366 --> 00:04:36,000 goals that we have as an agency and as a nation. 63 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,900 And I couldn't be prouder of the work 64 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,233 that you guys are doing each and every day to do that. 65 00:04:40,233 --> 00:04:43,566 And so it's honored to have our leadership team here 66 00:04:43,566 --> 00:04:44,933 to share with you some of the things 67 00:04:44,933 --> 00:04:47,333 that are going on within the agency 68 00:04:47,333 --> 00:04:49,733 and how Marshall fits into that. 69 00:04:49,733 --> 00:04:52,100 Some things you've heard from us already 70 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:55,100 in the town hall around the ESA 2040, 71 00:04:55,166 --> 00:04:58,166 what we're doing in Arnhem US to prepare to do science 72 00:04:58,333 --> 00:05:01,000 as well as probably an update on what's going on 73 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,100 with the budget situation, 74 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:04,033 which we talked a little bit in our town hall 75 00:05:04,033 --> 00:05:05,700 and you'll get to hear a little bit more. 76 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:07,633 From a leadership perspective, 77 00:05:07,633 --> 00:05:08,366 we had a chance to 78 00:05:08,366 --> 00:05:11,533 talk this morning and they reiterated ever again 79 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:14,800 about how important it is for Marshall 80 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,233 and the work we do to be a part of what the agency is doing. 81 00:05:18,233 --> 00:05:21,200 And so I really appreciate you guys being here 82 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,233 and look forward to some time to hear from them. 83 00:05:24,233 --> 00:05:25,666 And we also have Q&A at the end. 84 00:05:25,666 --> 00:05:28,666 So be prepared with questions. 85 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:30,500 We're going to address some that came in on the town 86 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:31,500 hall tool 87 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:33,100 and then we'll take some from the audience 88 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:34,433 so you can be thinking about questions 89 00:05:34,433 --> 00:05:35,700 as we go through with that. 90 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:49,533 I want to welcome the administrator to the podium. 91 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,533 60 years ago, 92 00:05:52,533 --> 00:05:54,300 President Kennedy, 93 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:59,833 he had already gone to Congress in 1961, 94 00:05:59,933 --> 00:06:04,533 and he made that astonishing statement. 95 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,900 We are going to the moon and return 96 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,700 a man safely 97 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:13,466 by the end of the decade. 98 00:06:13,466 --> 00:06:15,300 He had done that 99 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:18,466 at the time of the Soviets, 100 00:06:18,466 --> 00:06:22,566 had beat us into space, 101 00:06:22,633 --> 00:06:23,833 first with Sputnik, 102 00:06:23,833 --> 00:06:27,100 then with Gagarin. 103 00:06:27,166 --> 00:06:29,666 I remember one day 104 00:06:29,666 --> 00:06:32,700 when I was a young congressman, I was sitting on the floor 105 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:37,866 and the speaker, Tip O'Neill, came over and sat down beside me 106 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:41,433 and he knew 107 00:06:41,433 --> 00:06:45,300 that I was maybe I had already flown. 108 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:46,200 But anyway, 109 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,766 he knew the connection, so he wanted to tell me his story. 110 00:06:50,833 --> 00:06:55,033 And he said when I was a young congressman 111 00:06:55,133 --> 00:06:56,766 from Boston, 112 00:06:56,766 --> 00:06:59,500 he said I was down at the White House 113 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:04,866 seeing President Kennedy, and I had never seen him so nervous. 114 00:07:04,933 --> 00:07:08,200 And he was just pacing back and forth like 115 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:11,333 a cat on a hot tin roof. 116 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,900 And he said, I called 117 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:17,200 over to his aides and I said, What's wrong with the president? 118 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:20,100 And they explained 119 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:22,800 that Gagarin had already gone in. 120 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:28,666 And we were attempting the first time in suborbital 121 00:07:28,766 --> 00:07:31,500 with Alan Shepard 122 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:35,500 and then, of course, with Gus Grissom. 123 00:07:35,566 --> 00:07:38,166 And in the meantime, 124 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:42,466 the Soviets launched Titov 125 00:07:42,566 --> 00:07:45,300 into ten orbits. 126 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:47,700 By the way, one thing I did not know 127 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:52,000 until recently from a historian. 128 00:07:52,066 --> 00:07:53,100 Both Gagarin 129 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:56,100 and Titov did not land, 130 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:58,800 and because it was the Soviet Union, 131 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,533 they were able to keep that secret. 132 00:08:01,533 --> 00:08:03,833 They bailed out 133 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:09,066 because they did not have the capability of landing. 134 00:08:09,133 --> 00:08:12,066 And yet it was as if it was a complete thing. 135 00:08:12,066 --> 00:08:15,000 And they did that because they were trying to beat us. 136 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,533 Well, they beat us. 137 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,766 So that day that Alan Shepard 138 00:08:21,766 --> 00:08:26,133 is getting ready to go, but Kennedy 139 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,866 made that speech. 140 00:08:27,866 --> 00:08:34,466 It was so declarative and so aspirational. 141 00:08:34,533 --> 00:08:36,566 But at first America 142 00:08:36,566 --> 00:08:39,566 didn't rally to that. 143 00:08:39,733 --> 00:08:41,966 And he waited another year 144 00:08:41,966 --> 00:08:46,200 until after John Glenn had flown. 145 00:08:46,266 --> 00:08:48,866 And of course, 146 00:08:48,866 --> 00:08:52,200 that was really 147 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:56,700 where America came and saw that it could do it. 148 00:08:56,766 --> 00:08:59,766 And so Kennedy goes to Houston 149 00:08:59,766 --> 00:09:02,300 and he goes to Rice University 150 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:05,966 football Stadium and the stadiums packed, 151 00:09:06,033 --> 00:09:10,966 and he makes one of his most memorable speeches. 152 00:09:11,066 --> 00:09:13,800 He says, We go to the moon 153 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,533 not because it's easy, 154 00:09:16,533 --> 00:09:20,133 but because it's hard. 155 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,566 And then he characterized it 156 00:09:23,666 --> 00:09:28,033 since he was a cellular 157 00:09:28,133 --> 00:09:33,500 and he used a lot of nautical references in his speeches. 158 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,533 He said the astronauts are going to be star sailors 159 00:09:38,633 --> 00:09:39,000 and they're 160 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,700 going to sail on a cosmic sea 161 00:09:42,766 --> 00:09:46,466 and they're going to discover far off 162 00:09:46,533 --> 00:09:50,366 cosmic shores. 163 00:09:50,433 --> 00:09:52,133 And that's what we did. 164 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:54,600 That's what you did. 165 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,166 That's what Marshall did. 166 00:09:57,166 --> 00:09:59,233 That's what the nation did. 167 00:09:59,233 --> 00:10:02,500 That's what Nasser did. 168 00:10:02,566 --> 00:10:04,733 And now 169 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:07,733 we've done so much in between. 170 00:10:07,933 --> 00:10:09,900 And now we're going back. 171 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:12,900 Only this time we're going back to the moon 172 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:16,966 to learn, to live, to create, to invent. 173 00:10:17,066 --> 00:10:19,033 In order 174 00:10:19,033 --> 00:10:22,766 for us to go to Mars and beyond, 175 00:10:22,833 --> 00:10:25,566 to discover those far 176 00:10:25,566 --> 00:10:30,566 distant cosmic shores. 177 00:10:30,633 --> 00:10:33,933 And you are very much a part of this. 178 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,600 My first encounter at Marshall, 179 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:42,300 I was the chairman of the Space Subcommittee in the House. 180 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:43,666 I was a young congressman. 181 00:10:43,666 --> 00:10:47,900 I came here for a briefing and a tour 182 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,666 and Jim Beggs, the administrator, 183 00:10:50,666 --> 00:10:56,266 had already told me that he was going to 184 00:10:56,366 --> 00:10:58,666 make it possible for me to fly 185 00:10:58,666 --> 00:11:02,633 on the space shuttle, but it hadn't been announced. 186 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:05,400 And he had said, I want you to figure out 187 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,366 all the experiments that you're going to do. 188 00:11:09,433 --> 00:11:11,033 And in that tour 189 00:11:11,033 --> 00:11:14,033 and briefing here at Marshall, 190 00:11:14,033 --> 00:11:18,166 they told me about 191 00:11:18,266 --> 00:11:21,966 a medical experiment, the principal investigator 192 00:11:21,966 --> 00:11:25,800 of which was at UAB Birmingham 193 00:11:26,033 --> 00:11:29,633 Medical School, 194 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:31,666 and it was a cancer 195 00:11:31,666 --> 00:11:35,066 research experiment. 196 00:11:35,133 --> 00:11:38,300 I had just had a girl that was like a sister 197 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:42,933 to me, had died of breast cancer. 198 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,633 And I'm telling you, when they said that, the hairs 199 00:11:46,666 --> 00:11:52,566 stood up on the back of my neck because they said, Congressman, 200 00:11:52,633 --> 00:11:56,266 we need this experiment run on the space shuttle. 201 00:11:56,266 --> 00:12:01,566 And we hadn't been able to get the crew time dedicated to it. 202 00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,300 And I knew 203 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:07,766 right then that that was going to be my primary experiment. 204 00:12:07,833 --> 00:12:09,700 And today 205 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:12,533 they're finally having some breakthroughs now 206 00:12:12,533 --> 00:12:18,066 in protein crystal growth on the space station. 207 00:12:18,133 --> 00:12:20,600 They're having some 208 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,166 major things that are coming out 209 00:12:23,166 --> 00:12:26,166 about the cancer drug KEYTRUDA. 210 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:29,433 And they've they've learned in the way that they can 211 00:12:29,433 --> 00:12:33,366 manipulate it in near zero G, 212 00:12:33,433 --> 00:12:36,700 that they can then 213 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,400 back on earth, 214 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,733 grow that drug much more efficiently. 215 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,000 They're having a breakthrough on stem cells. 216 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:50,266 STEM cells takes millions 217 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:54,633 and millions of stem cells in stem cell therapy. 218 00:12:54,700 --> 00:12:57,500 And there's a lot of promise there. 219 00:12:57,500 --> 00:13:01,033 But the problem is you grow them on earth, 220 00:13:01,133 --> 00:13:04,033 they all fall down in the bottom. 221 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:07,566 They all clump together and a lot of them die. 222 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:10,666 You take it to zero G 223 00:13:10,766 --> 00:13:13,000 and they're suspended 224 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,466 and they can grow a lot more of them, bring them back to Earth. 225 00:13:16,533 --> 00:13:19,133 And these are the breakthroughs 226 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:22,133 that are just getting ready 227 00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:24,700 to be acknowledged 228 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:28,200 and recognized first. 229 00:13:28,266 --> 00:13:31,666 And that's just one part of what we do. 230 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:35,100 What you do. 231 00:13:35,166 --> 00:13:38,166 This is an exciting time. 232 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,000 It's an exciting time. 233 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 We've got a whole new generation. 234 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,100 We're backed up in science and goodness 235 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:49,100 gracious, look what's happening there. 236 00:13:49,266 --> 00:13:51,866 The James Webb Space Telescope, 237 00:13:51,866 --> 00:13:54,333 the planetary probes. 238 00:13:54,333 --> 00:13:55,900 I mean, we could go on and on. 239 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:59,466 The Earth science, 240 00:13:59,533 --> 00:14:01,633 it's all happening 241 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:06,366 and it's all happening because of you. All. 242 00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:09,133 I often say that 243 00:14:09,133 --> 00:14:13,166 Pam and and Bob and I are just privileged 244 00:14:13,166 --> 00:14:16,933 to try to offer some little bit of leadership 245 00:14:17,033 --> 00:14:20,700 to a group that's a bunch of wizards. 246 00:14:20,766 --> 00:14:22,800 And that's what you are. 247 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,866 You make the impossible possible. 248 00:14:27,933 --> 00:14:30,733 And so we wanted to come here 249 00:14:30,733 --> 00:14:36,900 and and to tell you how much we appreciate you. 250 00:14:36,966 --> 00:14:40,166 And we want you to know that 251 00:14:40,233 --> 00:14:43,233 NASA's just getting started. 252 00:14:43,466 --> 00:14:46,200 Look what's happened in the past. 253 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,500 Look what's happening in the near past. 254 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,900 Just in the year 2022 alone. 255 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,266 But look where we're going. 256 00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:01,900 And so thank you from the bottom of my heart. 257 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:04,133 I'm looking forward to your questions. 258 00:15:04,133 --> 00:15:05,866 You can ask me anything. 259 00:15:05,866 --> 00:15:07,666 I don't care. 260 00:15:07,666 --> 00:15:11,200 So let's get on with it. 261 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:23,500 Thank you, sir. 262 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,100 Can you imagine following that? 263 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,700 I just want to say thank you so much to Joseph Ray and Larry 264 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:35,233 and the leadership team here at Marshall for welcoming us. 265 00:15:35,233 --> 00:15:38,266 And it is wonderful to be here. 266 00:15:38,366 --> 00:15:40,100 I was thinking a lot of the same things 267 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:43,633 that Bill was talking about, just how 268 00:15:43,733 --> 00:15:46,733 crucial Marshall was to the Apollo program, 269 00:15:46,933 --> 00:15:50,800 which has left an incredible mark on the world. 270 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:52,900 And when Americans talk about 271 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:56,700 the value of government and what government does, 272 00:15:56,766 --> 00:16:00,600 the Apollo landings always come up as number one. 273 00:16:00,666 --> 00:16:03,200 And that's that's really important to know. 274 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,700 And, of course, you're playing the same kind of role again here 275 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:10,400 as we do something very different as we begin to 276 00:16:10,433 --> 00:16:12,933 actually go out with humans in a responsible 277 00:16:12,933 --> 00:16:15,933 and sustainable way to explore the whole solar system. 278 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,066 And I believe that the propulsion experts 279 00:16:18,066 --> 00:16:21,066 at Marshall, the science, nuclear propulsion, 280 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:23,100 all of those things are going to be critical 281 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,633 to what we're doing going forward. 282 00:16:25,733 --> 00:16:27,966 So I just wanted to share a couple of things 283 00:16:27,966 --> 00:16:28,766 that are going on 284 00:16:28,766 --> 00:16:31,766 kind of from a strategic perspective at the agency. 285 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,366 First of all, Moon to Mars, 286 00:16:35,433 --> 00:16:38,733 having the first architecture concept review was really 287 00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:43,000 important last last year or actually earlier this year. 288 00:16:43,066 --> 00:16:46,066 It was an opportunity for us to take all the objectives 289 00:16:46,066 --> 00:16:49,633 that we put together and then start to flow them down 290 00:16:49,633 --> 00:16:52,633 into capabilities and the needs for the future. 291 00:16:52,833 --> 00:16:56,200 And it was an opportunity to get feedback. 292 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,333 So we got feedback from industry, 293 00:16:58,333 --> 00:17:00,166 We got feedback from you. 294 00:17:00,166 --> 00:17:02,766 We got feedback from our international partners. 295 00:17:02,766 --> 00:17:04,400 And just recently 296 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,900 we held a workshop with other government 297 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,433 agencies to get their feedback as well. 298 00:17:09,433 --> 00:17:11,000 And with all this feedback, 299 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,100 we're able to actually link our strategy 300 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:15,933 all the way to the objectives 301 00:17:15,933 --> 00:17:18,600 and then down to the elements that we're using 302 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,333 so that it's a clear picture for everyone. 303 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:23,800 And so we're going to host the next architecture 304 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,833 concept review in November. And 305 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:30,233 it's exciting times because 306 00:17:30,233 --> 00:17:33,566 every year we'll have one of these reviews and every year 307 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,333 we will have an updated and evolved architecture. 308 00:17:37,433 --> 00:17:41,633 And we have to do that because technology continues to change 309 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:43,866 and we will have new capabilities 310 00:17:43,866 --> 00:17:46,100 that you're developing in some of our industry 311 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:48,300 and international partners are developing. 312 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,033 So we have to stay flexible 313 00:17:50,033 --> 00:17:51,900 and stay focused on those objectives, 314 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,900 which is getting humans to Mars long term. 315 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:57,433 So speaking of staying focused, 316 00:17:57,433 --> 00:17:59,966 it's actually really, really important that we think 317 00:17:59,966 --> 00:18:03,833 about what exactly we are doing with the Artemis program. 318 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:05,966 So it's it's just really important 319 00:18:05,966 --> 00:18:08,200 to stay focused on the why. 320 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,933 If you ever heard me speak before, you know, 321 00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:13,966 I always say what is the value that space offers? 322 00:18:13,966 --> 00:18:16,500 Because people do ask us that question 323 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:19,233 and we have to find a good way to articulate it. 324 00:18:19,233 --> 00:18:22,866 And together, the Federated Board worked 325 00:18:22,866 --> 00:18:24,600 with us a couple of years ago 326 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,600 to really articulate that in a beautiful way. 327 00:18:27,833 --> 00:18:29,066 And they had three pillars. 328 00:18:29,066 --> 00:18:31,000 And the first one is science. 329 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,166 Science is the seed corn of our knowledge and capabilities 330 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,300 of the universe, of the solar system, 331 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:41,066 of our planet, and of our own bodies 332 00:18:41,066 --> 00:18:43,533 and biological and physical processes, 333 00:18:43,533 --> 00:18:47,366 which we're learning on the space station by unmasking 334 00:18:47,366 --> 00:18:50,600 second and third order effects by taking away gravity. 335 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:54,733 So much to learn about ourselves and those things become 336 00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:57,600 the future technical capabilities. 337 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,600 And that's the second pillar is national posture. 338 00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:02,900 It's those technical capabilities. 339 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:06,533 It's the when you do something hard, you actually 340 00:19:06,533 --> 00:19:10,600 invent and create capabilities that spill over. 341 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:11,266 And, you know, 342 00:19:11,266 --> 00:19:11,700 we like to 343 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:15,000 talk about our spinoffs, but I think when you really take 344 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,800 a look at the incredible impact, for example, software 345 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,233 engineering didn't exist as a discipline before Apollo, 346 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:24,800 but that's what allowed our country 347 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,600 to take a leadership role in computer science 348 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,600 and essentially invent the Internet in the next decades. 349 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,433 So, so many capabilities that we create from 350 00:19:34,433 --> 00:19:37,000 what we're doing that actually lift 351 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,966 our national technical science and technology capability. 352 00:19:41,166 --> 00:19:43,366 And increasingly, with our 353 00:19:43,366 --> 00:19:46,066 growing commercial space industry, we're having 354 00:19:46,066 --> 00:19:49,800 a huge economic impact as well on our country. 355 00:19:49,866 --> 00:19:52,133 And then, of course, the third reason is inspiration, 356 00:19:52,133 --> 00:19:53,566 which I don't need to tell any of you, 357 00:19:53,566 --> 00:19:56,566 because we're inspired by our work every single day. 358 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:57,433 But it's important 359 00:19:57,433 --> 00:20:01,300 to remember that the other seed corn is our students, 360 00:20:01,366 --> 00:20:04,800 the ones who are uniquely inspired by space 361 00:20:05,066 --> 00:20:07,133 to go into a STEM career. 362 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:07,900 And that helps us 363 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:12,766 keep that virtuous cycle going of science and discovery 364 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:15,500 that leads to national technical capability 365 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:18,500 that inspires the rest of the future. 366 00:20:18,633 --> 00:20:22,833 We really need to recognize that as we go forward. 367 00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:24,200 The differences between what 368 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,433 we're doing with Artemus and Apollo. 369 00:20:26,433 --> 00:20:30,466 Apollo had a stated goal of putting a man on the moon 370 00:20:30,466 --> 00:20:32,633 and returning him safely. 371 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:34,600 And there were some challenges with that 372 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,200 because after we did it, the national will went away. 373 00:20:39,233 --> 00:20:40,000 Okay, we won. 374 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,233 We won the space race. We're over. 375 00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:45,200 The truth was, we weren't really ready to stay. 376 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,100 We had so much to learn. 377 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,066 And our heritage with the space shuttle 378 00:20:49,066 --> 00:20:51,533 and now with the space station has helped us 379 00:20:51,533 --> 00:20:54,533 learn how to routinely put people in space safely 380 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,100 and how to do science in microgravity 381 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:59,866 and to stay for long periods of time. 382 00:20:59,866 --> 00:21:02,500 But we really have to make sure that we're focused 383 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:05,600 on all the pillars of the why, because that's what's going 384 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,366 to create political resilience for Artemus and Moon to Mars. 385 00:21:09,433 --> 00:21:13,966 So it's important that we talk about and articulate the science 386 00:21:14,133 --> 00:21:16,100 and the technology that we develop 387 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,866 and the impact that that has on Americans. 388 00:21:18,866 --> 00:21:23,033 And I'm personally excited as I see the incredible science 389 00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:27,100 that you work on here with the International Space Station. 390 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,200 What new discoveries we're going to get with Artemus 391 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:34,000 and I love the way Reed Wiseman, the commander of Artemus, 392 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,633 to put it in August, 393 00:21:35,633 --> 00:21:37,866 He said the measure of success for Artemus, too, 394 00:21:37,866 --> 00:21:40,533 we're seeing astronauts on the moon, 395 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:44,666 not not their own mission, but seeing Gateway assembled, 396 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:47,200 seeing people follow in their footsteps, 397 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,866 doing science on the surface of the moon 398 00:21:49,866 --> 00:21:51,500 and then eventually Mars. 399 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:54,600 And that's what that test flight is all about. 400 00:21:54,666 --> 00:21:57,000 So with all that incredible activity 401 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,933 surrounding Artemus and Moon to Mars 402 00:21:58,933 --> 00:22:02,100 and things that we're doing, we've also been really focused 403 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:05,300 on how we work together than an enterprise. 404 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,733 We know there's a lot of challenges ahead. 405 00:22:07,733 --> 00:22:10,733 I know that you're living with them every single day. 406 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,266 We put a lot of pressure on our workforce 407 00:22:13,266 --> 00:22:16,833 and even more pressure on our infrastructure as well 408 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,566 as we have pushed the boundaries of our mission 409 00:22:19,566 --> 00:22:20,933 and done incredible things 410 00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:24,666 like Artemus one in preparing to do Artemus, too. 411 00:22:24,733 --> 00:22:26,100 But really 412 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:29,833 the senior leadership team has a tremendous amount of energy 413 00:22:29,933 --> 00:22:33,733 about improving the way we do things and providing 414 00:22:33,733 --> 00:22:38,533 the same institutional benefits that we have as our mission. 415 00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:41,533 We need to support our people and our facilities 416 00:22:41,533 --> 00:22:44,400 and our infrastructure the same way 417 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,900 with the same passion that we execute our mission. 418 00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:51,133 And that's what NASA's 2040 is all about. 419 00:22:51,333 --> 00:22:54,433 You're going to hear a lot more about NASA's 2040 from Casey. 420 00:22:54,433 --> 00:22:55,700 And you might notice 421 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:59,066 we're wearing a pin that says, Ask me about NASA's 2040. 422 00:22:59,133 --> 00:23:02,200 So if you have any questions, I know there's also Casey, 423 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,333 you're hosting a roundtable 424 00:23:04,433 --> 00:23:06,700 on Thursday, right, to roundtables. 425 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:08,800 So I think bring your best questions, 426 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,100 but more importantly, bring your best ideas, because 427 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,566 we are trying to make sure 428 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:16,866 that we are going to be doing all the amazing things 429 00:23:16,933 --> 00:23:19,566 in the future that we're able to do today. 430 00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,200 And I just also want to echo 431 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 the administrator and thank the workforce 432 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,266 for the incredible work that you do. 433 00:23:25,266 --> 00:23:27,666 And it's really a privilege to be here. 434 00:23:27,666 --> 00:23:30,666 We're very much looking forward to engaging with you 435 00:23:30,666 --> 00:23:33,300 and having a dialog and hearing your questions. 436 00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:44,900 So thank you. 437 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,033 Well, I just want to say how great it is to come back 438 00:23:47,033 --> 00:23:48,433 to the Marshall Space Flight Center. 439 00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:49,266 I love coming here. 440 00:23:49,266 --> 00:23:52,866 When I was training for Spacelab mission on SCA 65. 441 00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:54,600 I really love coming here. 442 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,533 When I got this train for the first disassembly mission 443 00:23:58,533 --> 00:24:02,066 and see Node one, it started out as just an aluminum shell here 444 00:24:02,133 --> 00:24:04,566 and seeing it to completion when it went on orbit. 445 00:24:04,566 --> 00:24:06,433 But I think, Pam, I'll have to agree 446 00:24:06,433 --> 00:24:08,933 it sure was a lot easier jumping in a T-38 447 00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:11,100 and flying into Redstone or Huntsville than it is 448 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:16,066 going through Charlotte and Atlanta to get here. 449 00:24:16,166 --> 00:24:19,066 It's a real pleasure for me to come and thank you 450 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:24,066 for all that you are doing for Artemus and the S.S.. 451 00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:26,833 You are critical to our future. 452 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:29,533 You know, KC and I had the privilege last week. 453 00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:34,033 We were talking to the executive safety form down in Florida. 454 00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:37,333 Robert and Lisa were there, and I'd like to see 455 00:24:37,333 --> 00:24:38,333 a show of hands. 456 00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:42,133 How many folks were 457 00:24:42,233 --> 00:24:47,100 not here at NASA when we lost Columbia? 458 00:24:47,166 --> 00:24:49,033 Not here. 459 00:24:49,033 --> 00:24:49,633 Oh, my gosh. 460 00:24:49,633 --> 00:24:52,566 That's over half the audience. That's out there. 461 00:24:52,566 --> 00:24:56,500 So, you know, it's been 50 years since we were on the moon. 462 00:24:56,566 --> 00:24:59,400 And this is challenging. 463 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,200 If you look back at the Apollo one accident in 1967, 464 00:25:04,266 --> 00:25:09,000 Challenger in 1986 and Columbia in 2001. 465 00:25:09,233 --> 00:25:13,666 We're talking about 20 years between events 466 00:25:13,766 --> 00:25:16,566 when we kind of let our guard down. 467 00:25:16,566 --> 00:25:19,433 And so one of the things that I brought up in talking 468 00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:21,200 to the Executive Safety Forum 469 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,000 was the need to create an inclusive environment 470 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,733 where everybody feels free to be heard. 471 00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:29,100 An inclusive team 472 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,766 where you create an environment where 473 00:25:30,766 --> 00:25:32,866 people feel free to speak up. 474 00:25:32,866 --> 00:25:35,033 And so that's what I'm asking of all of you 475 00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:38,466 as you attend these meetings, as we push to get items two, 476 00:25:38,466 --> 00:25:40,500 three, four and beyond going 477 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:43,800 in, Marshall plays a critical role in all of that. 478 00:25:43,866 --> 00:25:46,800 Please make sure that you are active participants 479 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,333 in the meetings that are making that happen, that you speak up 480 00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:54,233 if you have a concern and if you're leading a meeting, 481 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:56,700 please make sure that you create that environment 482 00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:58,233 and that you actually listen 483 00:25:58,233 --> 00:25:59,300 to the people 484 00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:00,800 when they air their concerns 485 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,800 and that they are properly addressed. 486 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800 What we are doing is too critical 487 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,333 to not give it our very best and have that environment. 488 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,400 Now, man, you guys, when I look at 489 00:26:12,466 --> 00:26:14,133 all that's been accomplished. 490 00:26:14,133 --> 00:26:16,266 As I said, you guys are critical to what's going on. 491 00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:19,266 And I assess right now over in the park, 492 00:26:19,333 --> 00:26:22,800 you guys are critical to Artemus 493 00:26:23,066 --> 00:26:26,066 as we assess the core stage. 494 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,366 You're critical to the upper stage. 495 00:26:28,366 --> 00:26:31,366 You're critical to the human landing system. 496 00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:32,566 We're not going to the moon 497 00:26:32,566 --> 00:26:34,566 without the Marshall Space Flight Center. 498 00:26:34,566 --> 00:26:36,266 You guys are it. 499 00:26:36,266 --> 00:26:40,533 And when we look to the future for going on to Mars, 500 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,266 nuclear propulsion, 501 00:26:42,266 --> 00:26:44,033 you know, nuclear thermal propulsion, that's 502 00:26:44,033 --> 00:26:45,566 here at the Marshall Space Flight Center. 503 00:26:45,566 --> 00:26:47,866 We don't want to take years for these missions. 504 00:26:47,866 --> 00:26:49,700 We don't want to take months to get to Mars. 505 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,300 We want to get there in a matter of weeks. 506 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:54,266 We can't do that without a new propulsion system. 507 00:26:54,266 --> 00:26:56,866 So that's the Marshall Space Flight Center. 508 00:26:56,866 --> 00:26:58,933 There is just a phenomenal future here 509 00:26:58,933 --> 00:27:01,233 to make us successful as we explore 510 00:27:01,233 --> 00:27:04,766 and go beyond our home planet. 511 00:27:04,833 --> 00:27:07,233 Quick update, I think you guys Artemus, too. 512 00:27:07,233 --> 00:27:08,933 Man, we are on track. 513 00:27:08,933 --> 00:27:11,000 The engines are going into the core stage. 514 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,400 You know, 515 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,666 we've named a crew for Artemus 516 00:27:12,666 --> 00:27:14,300 to hopefully those guys are going to get up here 517 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:16,733 and share their enthusiasm with all of you. 518 00:27:16,733 --> 00:27:19,233 It's an amazing crew. 519 00:27:19,233 --> 00:27:21,266 The mobile launchers out at the pad right now 520 00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:24,733 going through testing, getting ready to accept that core stage. 521 00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:29,266 When it gets down to KSC, the VAB is ready. 522 00:27:29,366 --> 00:27:30,000 You know, 523 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,233 the solid rocket boosters are on their way down to the Cape. 524 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,600 We are getting ready for autumn as to next year. 525 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,766 And you guys did an amazing job on our newest one. 526 00:27:38,766 --> 00:27:39,766 That was the most phenomenal 527 00:27:39,766 --> 00:27:41,700 rocket launch I think I've ever seen. 528 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,133 I couldn't have been more happy. 529 00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:44,766 And I know you guys were really proud of that. 530 00:27:44,766 --> 00:27:46,400 Two items, three, 531 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,466 the critical role that Marshall's playing on that 532 00:27:48,466 --> 00:27:52,000 and we're making progress on Artemus three 533 00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:52,500 Space 534 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,766 X had a second static test fire down 535 00:27:55,766 --> 00:27:58,833 in Boca Chica, getting ready to fly that big rocket. 536 00:27:58,833 --> 00:28:01,233 They got some work to do getting their license. 537 00:28:01,233 --> 00:28:04,233 But hopefully we'll get that thing flying 538 00:28:04,233 --> 00:28:06,200 the big rocket along with Starship 539 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,066 so that we can prove out this system 540 00:28:08,066 --> 00:28:09,966 that we need for a lander, 541 00:28:09,966 --> 00:28:14,133 the EVA suit that is required to put astronauts on the moon. 542 00:28:14,133 --> 00:28:16,700 They've done the fit checks on that, 543 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:19,166 making great progress in that regard. 544 00:28:19,166 --> 00:28:21,866 And as I look on beyond that, 545 00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:25,233 for Artemus, for beyond the rover, 546 00:28:25,233 --> 00:28:28,233 we're working through, getting the rover ready. 547 00:28:28,466 --> 00:28:30,866 Gateway, the solar electric propulsion 548 00:28:30,866 --> 00:28:32,100 with Aerojet Rocketdyne, 549 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,133 they've started qual testing on those 550 00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:36,233 solar electric propulsion motors. 551 00:28:36,233 --> 00:28:37,066 You know, 552 00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:40,100 this isn't anything that's that far off in the future. 553 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:40,733 It's now 554 00:28:40,733 --> 00:28:44,400 we're creating all the systems we're making it to happen now. 555 00:28:44,466 --> 00:28:46,633 So I just want to thank all of you 556 00:28:46,633 --> 00:28:47,566 for your hard work 557 00:28:47,566 --> 00:28:49,800 and your dedication to make NASA's who we are, 558 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,900 the best agency in the federal government. 559 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,200 But why is that? 560 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,666 It's because of this amazing team that we have 561 00:28:55,666 --> 00:28:57,166 in this amazing mission 562 00:28:57,166 --> 00:28:59,200 that we have where when you go home at night, 563 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,866 you're not making a difference for the Marshall Space 564 00:29:01,866 --> 00:29:03,733 Flight Center or the state of Alabama. 565 00:29:03,733 --> 00:29:05,033 Even for the United States, you're 566 00:29:05,033 --> 00:29:08,033 making a difference for humanity because that's our future, 567 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,833 to go beyond our home planet and explore. 568 00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:13,766 And if you were looking at those videos, 569 00:29:13,766 --> 00:29:14,633 I think one of the key 570 00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:17,633 things that came out of there is we're doing this together. 571 00:29:17,633 --> 00:29:19,700 We are not going to be successful 572 00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:21,766 unless all of NASA works together, 573 00:29:21,766 --> 00:29:23,766 unless our whole team works together, 574 00:29:23,766 --> 00:29:25,566 the centers, the mission directors 575 00:29:25,566 --> 00:29:29,100 and all the people, as well as our industry partners 576 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,966 and our international partners together, we are doing this. 577 00:29:31,966 --> 00:29:35,333 We are going and it's going to be an awesome adventure. 578 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:52,733 Thank you. 579 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,833 All right. 580 00:29:54,833 --> 00:29:55,066 Yeah. 581 00:29:55,066 --> 00:29:57,000 It felt so good to be here in the South. 582 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,166 I'm from the South, so every time I come back 583 00:29:59,166 --> 00:30:03,300 I can count on t hugs and seeing some really cool 584 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:04,533 space stuff. So. 585 00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:06,200 Always happy to be here in Huntsville. 586 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600 And as the administrator was talking, 587 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,800 I was thinking back to the first time I came here and. 588 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,933 And then I looked at the show of hands in the room 589 00:30:13,933 --> 00:30:17,400 and how many people weren't here during Columbia. 590 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,200 And, you know, 591 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,066 I started right at right before return to flight. 592 00:30:23,133 --> 00:30:25,800 And I remember sitting in the auditorium 593 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,300 at the Johnson Space Center 594 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:28,966 where I spent a big portion of my career 595 00:30:28,966 --> 00:30:30,300 before I went to headquarters. 596 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:34,033 And just how exciting that was and the feeling that I felt 597 00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:36,366 when we return to flight with shuttle. 598 00:30:36,366 --> 00:30:38,700 And now I look at where we are 599 00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:42,200 almost two decades later and the broader space economy. 600 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,666 And it's just a crazy difference from even where we were. 601 00:30:46,766 --> 00:30:48,900 I look at the activity over 602 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:53,233 90 launches this year down at the Kennedy Space Center. 603 00:30:53,333 --> 00:30:53,633 That's a 604 00:30:53,633 --> 00:30:57,133 double from what was even last year. 605 00:30:57,233 --> 00:30:58,700 I look at the number of U.S. 606 00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:02,833 commercial companies, 5500 space companies in the U.S. 607 00:31:02,833 --> 00:31:05,433 alone, 10,000 across the world. 608 00:31:05,433 --> 00:31:08,433 And we're over half of that. 609 00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:10,766 When I first started, I could think of 610 00:31:10,766 --> 00:31:12,600 a handful, and there were still hundreds. 611 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,566 But I just look at where we are and how different that is. 612 00:31:15,566 --> 00:31:18,366 You look at the broader space economy, you know, over 613 00:31:18,366 --> 00:31:21,366 $460 billion. 614 00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:24,000 And what's so cool about that is the leadership role 615 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,266 that NASA plays. And that's the piece that I get. 616 00:31:26,266 --> 00:31:28,900 So about when I watch those videos. 617 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:32,100 The role that we play in inspiration 618 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,100 and exploration and innovation for the world. 619 00:31:35,266 --> 00:31:38,566 And, you know, really when I think about NASA's 2040, 620 00:31:38,566 --> 00:31:39,900 that's what it's about, is 621 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,033 we think about that space economy continuing to grow 622 00:31:43,033 --> 00:31:46,800 and the leadership that we play, not just for U.S. 623 00:31:46,866 --> 00:31:48,433 but for the world. 624 00:31:48,433 --> 00:31:51,266 And how do we make sure as an organization, 625 00:31:51,266 --> 00:31:55,966 we're making decisions today to help define that future. 626 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,100 We go forward. 627 00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:58,533 And I don't know about folks in the room, 628 00:31:58,533 --> 00:32:01,300 but I'm really excited that we're going back to the moon 629 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,666 and I'm excited to eventually go to Mars. 630 00:32:03,666 --> 00:32:05,900 How many people want to go to Mars? 631 00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,366 A lot of people want to go to Mars. 632 00:32:08,433 --> 00:32:10,566 20 year sliding scale at a minimum. 633 00:32:10,566 --> 00:32:12,366 So if we're going to do that, 634 00:32:12,366 --> 00:32:12,933 we have to 635 00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:15,933 get back to the moon today and we need to get ready. 636 00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:16,700 And so 637 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,766 when we think about NASA's 2040 and that's a big part 638 00:32:19,766 --> 00:32:21,900 of why we started that and we think about kind of our 639 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,200 our goal, our role in that ecosystem 640 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,500 and being that leader, making those decisions today requires 641 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,000 not only are we making investments, but frankly, 642 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,433 what are the things that we're not going to do 643 00:32:32,433 --> 00:32:35,400 and we think about that broader ecosystem. 644 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,033 Personally, I think it's NASA's role to do 645 00:32:38,033 --> 00:32:41,033 the really hard things that only NASA's can do. 646 00:32:41,133 --> 00:32:42,933 And so when we talk about 2040 647 00:32:42,933 --> 00:32:45,600 and we talk about our mission strategy, 648 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,000 how do we make sure we have an articulated strategy 649 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,100 of what NASA will do and won't do in the future, 650 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,166 how do we make sure we have an agency 651 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:54,466 operating model that best sets us up 652 00:32:54,466 --> 00:32:56,733 for that future, that aligns to mission goals? 653 00:32:56,733 --> 00:32:59,900 And how do we make sure we have an institution that 654 00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:03,633 frankly reflects how amazing and incredible our mission is? 655 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:07,900 And so that's why the leadership team kicked off this effort. 656 00:33:07,966 --> 00:33:10,500 So we started tackling this back in May. 657 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:12,033 And I'll tell you, there are conversations 658 00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:13,266 happening long before that. 659 00:33:13,266 --> 00:33:14,533 Pam and I probably started 660 00:33:14,533 --> 00:33:17,533 that dialog shortly after she came in 661 00:33:17,633 --> 00:33:19,200 and I told her at the time, I said, Hey, 662 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,633 I think it's a leadership team. We need a little bit of time. 663 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:22,333 I'm not sure 664 00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,966 we're ready to kick off something that big, 665 00:33:24,966 --> 00:33:26,533 you know, most folks have been at home 666 00:33:26,533 --> 00:33:29,400 for, you know, several years over the pandemic. 667 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,300 We hadn't got to gel as a leadership team in person. 668 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:34,266 And so we really have spent, you know, 669 00:33:34,266 --> 00:33:35,900 the last couple of years doing that. 670 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,333 And we came together as a leadership team in 671 00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:41,400 May and said, hey, you know, we have some big challenges 672 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,600 ahead that we need to tackle. 673 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,133 And so this is why we kicked this off. 674 00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:45,633 So in June 675 00:33:45,633 --> 00:33:47,833 was the official kickoff following the retreat, 676 00:33:47,833 --> 00:33:51,133 and that established a core team that we're calling 677 00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:53,033 the transformation engine. 678 00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:55,800 And it's supported by seven high impact Workstreams 679 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,233 that I'll talk about. 680 00:33:57,233 --> 00:34:01,700 We sent a Talent Marketplace ad out shortly after, 681 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,833 had an overwhelming number of applications. 682 00:34:04,833 --> 00:34:06,633 Several hundred folks reached out. 683 00:34:06,633 --> 00:34:10,333 We had a session for anyone that had applied 684 00:34:10,333 --> 00:34:12,133 and threw their name in the hat 685 00:34:12,133 --> 00:34:13,500 to garner interest to 686 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,833 you know, explain kind of what the overall effort was about. 687 00:34:15,833 --> 00:34:16,600 And since then, 688 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,800 we've been really working hard to get teams in place 689 00:34:19,933 --> 00:34:23,666 defining terms of reference for each of these seven Workstreams 690 00:34:23,733 --> 00:34:26,733 making sure we're really clear on what the milestones are 691 00:34:26,733 --> 00:34:27,800 with the objectives are, 692 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,800 what we're trying to accomplish and what does success look like 693 00:34:30,833 --> 00:34:31,933 is a leadership team. 694 00:34:31,933 --> 00:34:34,966 We've committed to quarterly off sites, you know, so 695 00:34:34,966 --> 00:34:36,733 this isn't one of those efforts that, you know, 696 00:34:36,733 --> 00:34:39,033 we're going to say, okay, go off a year, 697 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:40,866 come back together, we're going to meet quarterly 698 00:34:40,866 --> 00:34:44,300 as a leadership team to define progress. 699 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,400 And across these seven WORKSTREAMS, 700 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,033 we have owners from each of the executive officials in charge. 701 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,566 So that's the highest level official in charge responsible 702 00:34:53,566 --> 00:34:56,633 for that workstream plus several other officials 703 00:34:56,633 --> 00:34:58,066 in charge assigned to each of those. 704 00:34:58,066 --> 00:35:00,866 So this really is a whole of agency approach. 705 00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:03,133 And let me talk about the Workstreams for a minute. 706 00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:05,800 Mission, strategy, structure, budget 707 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,333 people, infrastructure, technology and process. 708 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,933 And so those workstreams will work directly 709 00:35:11,933 --> 00:35:13,266 with the transformation engine. 710 00:35:13,266 --> 00:35:17,066 I actually have a couple of my transformation folks in here. 711 00:35:17,133 --> 00:35:19,800 So Lori Grindle, who's our deputy center 712 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,300 director at Armstrong. 713 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:22,900 Hey Lori, everyone say hello. 714 00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:24,366 Lori and Emily 715 00:35:24,366 --> 00:35:28,400 Van Sise, who's her deputy on the overall effort. 716 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:31,366 So they're really leading the overall engine, the integration, 717 00:35:31,366 --> 00:35:33,500 the interdependencies between each of these efforts. 718 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:36,000 So for mission strategy, this is really around 719 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,800 what will the agency do or not do as we go forward structure. 720 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:43,500 It's no secret we have a complex, challenging matrix, 721 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:44,766 so it's really important 722 00:35:44,766 --> 00:35:48,033 that we get really clear on roles and responsibilities. 723 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,166 One of the things that I've heard since I've started 724 00:35:50,166 --> 00:35:52,000 is we need to increase decision velocity. 725 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,533 We need to move faster. 726 00:35:53,533 --> 00:35:55,100 Okay, Well, if we've been talking about that 727 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,566 for 20 years, when do we start moving faster? 728 00:35:57,566 --> 00:35:58,600 So that's really what 729 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,133 that's really 730 00:35:59,133 --> 00:36:01,900 what the structure piece is about is how do we make sure 731 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:03,533 have the right decision making in place 732 00:36:03,533 --> 00:36:04,866 so that we can move faster? 733 00:36:04,866 --> 00:36:08,866 And with the evolving ecosystem that I described, we have more 734 00:36:08,866 --> 00:36:10,900 and more partners internationally. 735 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:13,533 We just signed what is it, number 29, sir? 736 00:36:13,533 --> 00:36:16,100 The Artemus Accords just last week, 737 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,466 an increasing number of commercial 738 00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:19,433 and international and academic partners. 739 00:36:19,433 --> 00:36:21,700 So being really clear on our structure, 740 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:24,500 the front door is for NASA budget. 741 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:25,666 We need flexibility 742 00:36:25,666 --> 00:36:26,533 and we need to ensure 743 00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:29,533 that it takes into account the total cost of the mission. 744 00:36:29,666 --> 00:36:31,833 So this is where the institutional piece comes in. 745 00:36:31,833 --> 00:36:34,300 How do we make sure that we're looking 746 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:36,000 we look at our overall mission strategy. 747 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,033 We're really thinking about the needs that we have in 748 00:36:38,033 --> 00:36:40,933 workforce and infrastructure, the technology investments 749 00:36:40,933 --> 00:36:44,733 that we need to make, things like investing in IRA dollars, 750 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,300 people having a strategic workforce plan 751 00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:50,766 and being really clear on what our value proposition is. 752 00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:54,766 You know, I still would say that NASA has the best, 753 00:36:54,766 --> 00:36:56,666 most talented workforce, bar none. 754 00:36:56,666 --> 00:36:59,466 I would put it against any company on the planet. 755 00:36:59,466 --> 00:37:02,466 How do we make sure it stays that way going forward? 756 00:37:02,466 --> 00:37:05,633 And how do we make sure we have developmental plans 757 00:37:05,633 --> 00:37:09,633 in place for when people come to NASA, what they can expect, 758 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,700 infrastructure, Our needs exceed our annual budget. 759 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:13,966 And I don't have to tell anyone 760 00:37:13,966 --> 00:37:15,466 here. We have a lot of aging 761 00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:17,733 infrastructure that is at end of life. 762 00:37:17,733 --> 00:37:20,700 So we need aggressive, short and long term plans 763 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,700 to get into the modern age with our infrastructure. 764 00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:26,100 That's something that we haven't gotten here overnight. 765 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:27,466 It's not going to change overnight, 766 00:37:27,466 --> 00:37:30,000 but being really intentional around what our strategy 767 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,400 and what our plans are, it's going to be really critical. 768 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,066 And then technology, this isn't dissimilar from infrastructure. 769 00:37:36,133 --> 00:37:38,466 So we have the technology that is our jobs 770 00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:41,800 and then we have the technology that we need to do our jobs. 771 00:37:41,866 --> 00:37:43,733 And, you know, I would say while this is about 772 00:37:43,733 --> 00:37:45,566 both, it's more the latter than the former. 773 00:37:45,566 --> 00:37:46,800 We really need to make sure 774 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,200 we have the technology to do our job so that we can put 775 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:51,233 our people first 776 00:37:51,233 --> 00:37:54,233 in a way that really allows them to focus on the mission 777 00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:55,633 and then process. 778 00:37:55,633 --> 00:37:57,866 This is really, as we look at agility, 779 00:37:57,866 --> 00:38:00,766 how do we tackle the things that are really limiting us 780 00:38:00,766 --> 00:38:02,600 and frankly, some of the bureaucracy 781 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 that's keeping us from moving at a faster pace. 782 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,666 So the whole leadership team is here descending on Huntsville 783 00:38:08,666 --> 00:38:09,433 this week. 784 00:38:09,433 --> 00:38:10,666 I'm really excited 785 00:38:10,666 --> 00:38:12,100 to spend the next couple of days, 786 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,833 you know, kind of tackling this even more. 787 00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:15,300 We're going to dive into 788 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:17,100 we're staggering each of these workstreams 789 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,800 the mission strategy and the structure first, 790 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,566 shortly after we have budget, 791 00:38:21,566 --> 00:38:25,133 the executive OIC responsible is Margaret Vocus, our CFO. 792 00:38:25,133 --> 00:38:25,966 She's in the audience. 793 00:38:25,966 --> 00:38:29,700 And Tia Ferguson, Marshall's very own is the executive lead 794 00:38:29,933 --> 00:38:30,566 for budget. 795 00:38:30,566 --> 00:38:34,066 So thank you, Tia, for stepping up to that role. 796 00:38:34,166 --> 00:38:36,033 She's probably not going to take any of my calls any more 797 00:38:36,033 --> 00:38:40,000 because it's a really big workst 798 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,300 Angela Walker, she's the director of Spacecraft 799 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:43,633 and Vehicle Systems here at Marshall. 800 00:38:43,633 --> 00:38:46,933 She's on the mission team, and Donya S.A. 801 00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,966 is the deputy manager of Marshall's 802 00:38:48,966 --> 00:38:50,233 Science and Technology Office. 803 00:38:50,233 --> 00:38:51,266 She's on the structure team, 804 00:38:51,266 --> 00:38:54,500 So a lot of folks really engaged across the board, 805 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,133 really looking at kind of diverse 806 00:38:56,133 --> 00:38:59,100 makeup of the workforce as we move forward. 807 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,933 And strategy is really about making 808 00:39:00,933 --> 00:39:03,333 it's around shaping the future, but it's also around 809 00:39:03,333 --> 00:39:05,800 making sure again, we're making decisions today 810 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,733 that are best going to shape that future. 811 00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:08,900 So a little bit of both. 812 00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:09,733 It's, hey, 813 00:39:09,733 --> 00:39:10,800 how do we spend 814 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,766 and the ideas that we're going 815 00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,766 to spend 18 to 24 months really tackling this effort, 816 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,700 but how do we make sure we're making decisions 817 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,600 but then also teeing up milestones 818 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,866 for what we're going to need to do in the future? 819 00:39:20,866 --> 00:39:22,500 I'm really excited about it. 820 00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:24,866 I think we all would agree it's it's been really exciting 821 00:39:24,866 --> 00:39:27,233 when I've gone out to have some of the roundtables. 822 00:39:27,233 --> 00:39:29,400 I'm really looking forward to the one here at Marshall. 823 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,066 But one of the things I've heard a lot, 824 00:39:31,066 --> 00:39:32,733 particularly from our early and mid-career 825 00:39:32,733 --> 00:39:35,900 workforce, is they're excited about the opportunities 826 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:37,566 for collaboration. 827 00:39:37,566 --> 00:39:41,266 And they, you know, it's it's hey, Casey, 828 00:39:41,266 --> 00:39:42,266 I think we can do more 829 00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:43,800 if we collaborate more across centers, 830 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,066 if we expand outside of geographic boundaries, 831 00:39:46,066 --> 00:39:47,366 if we leverage capabilities. 832 00:39:47,366 --> 00:39:49,733 And so that's what I hear from our workforce. 833 00:39:49,733 --> 00:39:50,766 I'm excited about that. 834 00:39:50,766 --> 00:39:52,433 And I think now so 2040 will bring us 835 00:39:52,433 --> 00:39:53,866 a little bit closer to it. 836 00:39:53,866 --> 00:39:56,666 So happy to answer any questions on it. 837 00:39:56,666 --> 00:40:10,666 Come ask about NASA's 2040. 838 00:40:10,766 --> 00:40:12,733 Good afternoon. 839 00:40:12,733 --> 00:40:14,733 Thanks so much to the leadership team 840 00:40:14,733 --> 00:40:16,166 for sharing that information 841 00:40:16,166 --> 00:40:19,166 with us and really for being with us here today. 842 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,133 We're now going to move into the question 843 00:40:21,133 --> 00:40:22,933 and answer portion of the program 844 00:40:22,933 --> 00:40:24,266 and answer some questions 845 00:40:24,266 --> 00:40:26,366 submitted by the Marshall Workforce. 846 00:40:26,366 --> 00:40:28,333 So we've grouped the questions 847 00:40:28,333 --> 00:40:30,466 into themes, so hopefully we can address 848 00:40:30,466 --> 00:40:33,100 more subjects in the short time we have left. 849 00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,500 So I'm going to kick it off the first theme that we're going 850 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:39,333 to cover is NASA's 2040 and the future of NASA. 851 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,900 I'm going to ask the headquarters 852 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,733 leadership team to answer. 853 00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:43,766 The first question 854 00:40:43,766 --> 00:40:47,533 is with large programs that have traditionally provided 855 00:40:47,533 --> 00:40:50,733 the bulk of Marsha's Marshals charge code 856 00:40:50,733 --> 00:40:54,200 going away, what does the future look like for Marshall? 857 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,266 NASA 2040? 858 00:40:59,366 --> 00:41:02,366 I'd love to tackle that for a moment. 859 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,833 I'm I'm just very excited, 860 00:41:04,833 --> 00:41:06,700 actually, about the future for Marshall. 861 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:10,433 But I do want to say it's going to look different. 862 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:13,866 I think the times where we had a single monolithic 863 00:41:13,866 --> 00:41:15,600 human spaceflight program 864 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,600 that every single person was working on 865 00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:23,200 is going to shift a little bit and technology is moving fast. 866 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,200 The complexity of our moon to Mars architecture. 867 00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:27,800 And it's not just moon to Mars. 868 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,600 If you look, for example, at Mars sample return, 869 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,500 that's also more complex. 870 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:34,033 What we're discovering is 871 00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:36,500 as we're trying to do harder things, 872 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:38,700 it means we have to work together 873 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,966 in new ways with a lot of different moving parts. 874 00:41:42,033 --> 00:41:45,266 And so what you can expect from the future 875 00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:48,566 is more programs that move faster. 876 00:41:48,633 --> 00:41:52,500 So you will have the opportunity to move around, 877 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,533 not just stay with one program. 878 00:41:54,533 --> 00:41:55,266 There's always 879 00:41:55,266 --> 00:41:59,000 going to be a place it now nassr for those wizards 880 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:03,100 who you know have are like the walking expert 881 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:06,100 on the face of the earth on a given technical 882 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,033 topic will always have a place for people like that. 883 00:42:09,033 --> 00:42:13,400 But we will also be seeing people moving from program 884 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,133 to program and that, you know, as you look out ahead, 885 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,866 this is why we need a mission workstream to take a look at 886 00:42:21,866 --> 00:42:25,700 what is our strategy for investment and divestment 887 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,333 so that we can actually move faster and pick things up. 888 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,400 But if you also look at the moon to Mars architecture, 889 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,966 you can just see a steady flow of exciting programs 890 00:42:35,966 --> 00:42:37,200 coming out there. 891 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,466 So I think that's probably the best answer I can give right now 892 00:42:41,466 --> 00:42:43,200 is is it's going to look different 893 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600 and it's going to be super exciting. 894 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,833 I want to add a part to it. 895 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,400 Pam said earlier in her remarks, 896 00:42:53,466 --> 00:42:55,766 and Bob did too. 897 00:42:55,766 --> 00:42:58,366 We got to go to Mars faster. 898 00:42:58,366 --> 00:43:02,033 We can't go with conventional because it's 899 00:43:02,033 --> 00:43:06,833 going to take us too long and by the time you get there, 900 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:09,800 you're going to have to stay on the surface 901 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,833 a much longer period of time because the planets of realigned 902 00:43:14,933 --> 00:43:18,700 in order for the crew to get back. 903 00:43:18,766 --> 00:43:21,333 And so I've been on the warpath 904 00:43:21,333 --> 00:43:24,833 for nuclear thermal 905 00:43:25,066 --> 00:43:28,500 and nuclear electric propulsion. 906 00:43:28,566 --> 00:43:30,066 And that's right here. 907 00:43:30,066 --> 00:43:33,066 That's here. And it's at Glenn. 908 00:43:33,066 --> 00:43:36,300 And so that would be an example 909 00:43:36,366 --> 00:43:41,833 of one of the things that we're going to have to do. 910 00:43:41,933 --> 00:43:46,900 And it's essential. 911 00:43:46,966 --> 00:43:50,800 The future is very, very bright here. 912 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,800 But technology doesn't stand still. 913 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,433 You got to adjust with it. It's very. 914 00:43:58,500 --> 00:43:59,633 Thank you for that, sir. 915 00:43:59,633 --> 00:44:00,400 Ma'am. 916 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,066 Now, we're going to go to the audience 917 00:44:02,066 --> 00:44:06,166 for a couple of questions. 918 00:44:06,266 --> 00:44:07,733 Don't be shy. 919 00:44:07,733 --> 00:44:10,400 I know you guys have questions. 920 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,733 We got a microphone out there. 921 00:44:11,733 --> 00:44:13,033 There's a couple of mikes out there. 922 00:44:13,033 --> 00:44:22,533 Just raise your hand if you have a question. 923 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,833 Good afternoon, all. 924 00:44:24,833 --> 00:44:27,133 When are we going to start throwing mass to the moon 925 00:44:27,133 --> 00:44:27,933 and then to Mars? 926 00:44:27,933 --> 00:44:35,500 Thanks 927 00:44:35,566 --> 00:44:37,800 to the moon? 928 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,200 Well, 929 00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:42,733 we're going to throw 930 00:44:42,733 --> 00:44:46,066 a lot of mass up there as soon as we fly our team 931 00:44:46,066 --> 00:44:47,133 as to improve out 932 00:44:47,133 --> 00:44:49,900 that we've got a safe vehicle for a cruise 933 00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,200 so that we can get the outermost three. 934 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,700 And it's not about just throwing mass up there. 935 00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:59,133 It's providing a sustainable infrastructure that's up there. 936 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,700 It's commercial activities. When I look at, 937 00:45:02,766 --> 00:45:03,066 you know, 938 00:45:03,066 --> 00:45:06,833 what we're doing in order to enable this to be successful, 939 00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:08,633 we would like to create 940 00:45:08,633 --> 00:45:10,766 commercial opportunities also on the moon 941 00:45:10,766 --> 00:45:13,533 so that we can focus going on to Mars. 942 00:45:13,533 --> 00:45:16,033 We've got a lot of work to do before we can go to Mars. 943 00:45:16,033 --> 00:45:18,266 You know, all the studies I've seen say 944 00:45:18,266 --> 00:45:21,233 we need 18 to 20 metric tons of supplies and equipment 945 00:45:21,233 --> 00:45:24,133 staged on Mars before we can send humans. 946 00:45:24,133 --> 00:45:27,300 And we're having a hard time look at what it takes 947 00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:29,900 just to get you know, one metric ton 948 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:33,766 in a curiosity or perseverance rover on Mars. 949 00:45:33,866 --> 00:45:37,233 So we need to develop the systems. 950 00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:38,400 We've got the rocket. 951 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,033 All right? We need that upper stage. 952 00:45:41,033 --> 00:45:44,066 And I know you guys probably saw that GAO report, 953 00:45:44,066 --> 00:45:47,133 but I'm telling you, you know, this is this is our rocket 954 00:45:47,133 --> 00:45:48,900 and we are going to make it more affordable. 955 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:52,733 We're working on the exploration production operations 956 00:45:52,733 --> 00:45:55,000 contract to help reduce costs. 957 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,966 This is the future for us to be able to throw 958 00:45:57,966 --> 00:46:00,666 the kind of mass that we need to have meaningful missions 959 00:46:00,666 --> 00:46:03,333 going to the moon and eventually on to Mars. 960 00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:04,933 And I'll just add, 961 00:46:04,933 --> 00:46:08,100 you know, our eclipse providers are already buying, 962 00:46:08,166 --> 00:46:10,300 hopefully the first one by the end of the year, 963 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,600 we'll be getting science and technology payloads. 964 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,600 But Bob is absolutely right. 965 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,200 My goodness. 966 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:15,966 If there's anything 967 00:46:15,966 --> 00:46:19,400 we've learned from ISIS, it's how much logistics 968 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,266 it takes to support humans and to support their science. 969 00:46:23,366 --> 00:46:26,966 So the Europeans are interested in developing a heavy lander. 970 00:46:26,966 --> 00:46:31,400 We've got a cargo lander approach with our HLS providers 971 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,733 and clips. We hope to evolve that. 972 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,933 Who knows, Maybe in a few years we'll have Eclipse 973 00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:40,500 going to Mars. We've got 974 00:46:40,566 --> 00:46:42,900 we've got a couple of these 975 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:46,333 clips missions that are coming right around the corner. 976 00:46:46,433 --> 00:46:49,433 They go into the South Pole. 977 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:51,400 They're going to start digging 978 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,400 to see if there's water. 979 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,400 And of course, if there's water, 980 00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:00,500 then it's Katie by the door. 981 00:47:00,633 --> 00:47:04,200 There's going to be a lot of mass on the south 982 00:47:04,266 --> 00:47:06,900 pole of the moon, 983 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:10,233 because then we can create the hydrogen 984 00:47:10,233 --> 00:47:15,500 and the oxygen for fuel and for living up there. 985 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,466 This is what's so exciting. 986 00:47:18,466 --> 00:47:22,000 And I just want to tell you, I'm so proud of these two 987 00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:25,100 plus Casey, but particularly the 988 00:47:25,333 --> 00:47:28,333 these two, because 989 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,200 these two are the real deal right here. 990 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,400 Space shuttle commanders, 991 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,633 both military test pilots, 992 00:47:37,733 --> 00:47:40,733 and they just let me tag along. 993 00:47:40,966 --> 00:47:48,633 And no, Bob and I did not coordinate our address. 994 00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,566 Yeah, because they'd be in trouble 995 00:47:50,566 --> 00:47:55,366 if they didn't didn't tell me to wear my brown shoes. 996 00:47:55,466 --> 00:48:00,966 If you told us a little bit about the NASA's 2040, 997 00:48:01,033 --> 00:48:01,900 what would you say 998 00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:03,966 some of the next milestones where we can start 999 00:48:03,966 --> 00:48:05,700 to see the clutch engaging with that? 1000 00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:08,900 And you know, what can we be looking to see come out of that 1001 00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:14,366 in milestones things milestone for? 1002 00:48:14,433 --> 00:48:15,900 Well, I think some of the milestones 1003 00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:17,200 you're going to start seeing immediately. 1004 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,866 I mean, when we look at mission strategy and structure, 1005 00:48:19,866 --> 00:48:20,600 one of the things 1006 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,600 the teams have been working 1007 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,600 really, really hard since June to really tee up 1008 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,533 those milestones. 1009 00:48:25,533 --> 00:48:29,133 So pretty soon after this, this retreat, 1010 00:48:29,133 --> 00:48:30,866 you'll be able to see we're going to have 1011 00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:33,566 a white paper that we can share across the workforce 1012 00:48:33,566 --> 00:48:36,033 so folks can see specifically, 1013 00:48:36,033 --> 00:48:37,533 you know, what the overall effort's about. 1014 00:48:37,533 --> 00:48:39,000 We're going to share the terms of reference 1015 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,166 so people can see specific milestones, deliverables, 1016 00:48:42,166 --> 00:48:45,400 what the overall success criteria is for each of those 1017 00:48:45,466 --> 00:48:47,400 to give the workforce a better sense for those 1018 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,900 that want to dive into certain Workstreams 1019 00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,166 When I look at mission strategy and structure, 1020 00:48:52,166 --> 00:48:54,700 Bob's got structure team on a pretty tight deadline. 1021 00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:56,400 He's told them by the end of the year 1022 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,100 he wants to be able to make a decision on the structure 1023 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,000 and mission strategy, saying we're looking 1024 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,733 at the end of the year to really start 1025 00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:04,866 kind of getting to where we're laying out some clear 1026 00:49:04,866 --> 00:49:08,100 milestones and deliverables for that budget. 1027 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:08,966 And some of the others, 1028 00:49:08,966 --> 00:49:11,800 as I said, were staggering, getting those going, 1029 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,166 you know, Margaret's working hard 1030 00:49:13,166 --> 00:49:15,633 so we can look at even as early as next year, 1031 00:49:15,633 --> 00:49:17,433 how do we start having a plan now? 1032 00:49:17,433 --> 00:49:20,433 Not to say that we'll be able to implement in 2026 1033 00:49:20,433 --> 00:49:23,300 when we start planning for the fiscal year for 2026. 1034 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:25,366 But how do we start thinking 1035 00:49:25,366 --> 00:49:26,900 about the total cost of the mission, 1036 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:27,966 including the institution 1037 00:49:27,966 --> 00:49:30,366 as early as 2026 and our planning cycle? 1038 00:49:30,366 --> 00:49:32,300 So pretty quickly, as I said, 1039 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:38,400 it's an 18 to 24 month effort and we want to move fast. 1040 00:49:38,466 --> 00:49:39,366 Thank you. 1041 00:49:39,366 --> 00:49:40,666 Any more questions from the audience? 1042 00:49:40,666 --> 00:49:47,066 I see one over there. 1043 00:49:47,133 --> 00:49:49,566 Thank you to the leadership team for being here to continue 1044 00:49:49,566 --> 00:49:51,666 pulling on the NASA's 2040 thread. 1045 00:49:51,666 --> 00:49:53,700 I wondered if you could speak to the demographics 1046 00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:57,800 making up the team that's doing this, particularly making sure 1047 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,233 that you've captured every facet of the NASA workforce. 1048 00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:03,000 And I'm especially interested 1049 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,700 in how you're incorporating early career ideas 1050 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:08,633 into the formulation. Thank you. 1051 00:50:08,633 --> 00:50:09,600 Absolutely. 1052 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,266 That's a great, great question. 1053 00:50:11,266 --> 00:50:12,566 And that's been one of the key 1054 00:50:12,566 --> 00:50:14,500 principles, is we're developing the teams. 1055 00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:17,533 And so that's Lori's responsibility 1056 00:50:17,533 --> 00:50:18,100 when she looks 1057 00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:20,300 across the broader engine in the workstreams 1058 00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:22,700 to make sure we have diversity in those teams, 1059 00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:26,633 we now have at least the executive leads 1060 00:50:26,633 --> 00:50:30,266 and all the oases posted on the 2040 website. 1061 00:50:30,266 --> 00:50:32,700 There is a 2040 website out there, 1062 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,233 so I would encourage you to go on the one NASA's page 1063 00:50:35,233 --> 00:50:36,300 and look at that, 1064 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:38,933 because that was kind of the big criteria is making sure 1065 00:50:38,933 --> 00:50:42,600 we had diversity across every center, every mission, 1066 00:50:42,666 --> 00:50:44,000 every organization. 1067 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,366 And the teams been working really hard to do that. 1068 00:50:46,366 --> 00:50:47,566 In terms of early careers. 1069 00:50:47,566 --> 00:50:49,233 That's a big part of what these roundtables 1070 00:50:49,233 --> 00:50:52,233 are about, getting perspectives from each of the centers. 1071 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:54,633 And that's not just me that each of the Workstream 1072 00:50:54,633 --> 00:50:55,966 leads are tackling that as well. 1073 00:50:55,966 --> 00:50:57,000 They're going out and doing, 1074 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,366 whether it's interviews, listening sessions. 1075 00:50:59,366 --> 00:51:03,266 So we now have a 2040 email address 1076 00:51:03,266 --> 00:51:04,933 where you can email questions. 1077 00:51:04,933 --> 00:51:07,266 So a variety of comms mechanisms. 1078 00:51:07,266 --> 00:51:09,166 Jennifer Stanfield, who is Marshall's 1079 00:51:09,166 --> 00:51:11,866 own, is our comms lead for the overall effort, 1080 00:51:11,866 --> 00:51:14,466 and she's been doing just an incredible job 1081 00:51:14,466 --> 00:51:16,800 putting up frequently asked questions. 1082 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,166 But I think 1083 00:51:17,166 --> 00:51:21,100 you'll be hearing more and more as things get underway, 1084 00:51:21,166 --> 00:51:24,100 but really trying hard to get a diversity of perspectives. 1085 00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:28,000 This is not just a leadership top down effort. 1086 00:51:28,066 --> 00:51:29,366 This is really everybody. 1087 00:51:29,366 --> 00:51:31,733 This is bottoms up 1088 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,800 across the board. 1089 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,300 We're really trying to get perspectives from everybody. 1090 00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:38,333 And so if you have feedback or ideas 1091 00:51:38,333 --> 00:51:39,600 on the best way to do that, 1092 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,266 we're looking at a lot of 1093 00:51:41,266 --> 00:51:43,700 different mechanisms but would welcome those as well 1094 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:46,566 because we really do want to hear and I'll tell you, 1095 00:51:46,566 --> 00:51:49,500 just even from the feedback we've gotten, we've already made 1096 00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:53,200 several and tweaks based on what we've heard from folks. 1097 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,166 So it's really, really important that we hear from you 1098 00:51:56,166 --> 00:51:58,066 because this is our agency 1099 00:51:58,066 --> 00:52:01,566 and we're building it for the future together. 1100 00:52:01,633 --> 00:52:04,500 And just want to add, I've been at NASA for quite a 1101 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:08,900 while in a leadership position, and I've gone to these agencies 1102 00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:11,733 strategic retreats numerous times, 1103 00:52:11,733 --> 00:52:15,600 and we get together and we talk all these big ideas 1104 00:52:15,666 --> 00:52:18,000 and nothing meaningful comes out of it. 1105 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,633 A year later, we're back together again, 1106 00:52:19,633 --> 00:52:21,433 talking about the same thing. 1107 00:52:21,433 --> 00:52:23,466 And that is not going to happen this time. 1108 00:52:23,466 --> 00:52:27,166 If we want meaningful change, it can't be directed. 1109 00:52:27,166 --> 00:52:30,366 It's got to it's got to be all of us have to be involved. 1110 00:52:30,366 --> 00:52:33,200 We have to own it. You have to own it. 1111 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,966 And we have meaningful actions that we're going to take. 1112 00:52:35,966 --> 00:52:38,500 We're laying out a strategic plan 1113 00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:42,133 to implement this because this this is transitional. 1114 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:45,133 This goes beyond political administrations. 1115 00:52:45,133 --> 00:52:48,533 This is core to who we are as an agency and who we want to be. 1116 00:52:48,533 --> 00:52:50,966 If we want to successful in the future. 1117 00:52:50,966 --> 00:52:52,766 And if we are not organized correctly, 1118 00:52:52,766 --> 00:52:54,366 if we don't have the right budget streams, 1119 00:52:54,366 --> 00:52:58,200 the right goals, missions is if we don't all own that 1120 00:52:58,433 --> 00:53:00,300 and make these meaningful changes, 1121 00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:02,233 we're not going to be successful in the future. 1122 00:53:02,233 --> 00:53:02,900 So this 1123 00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:04,066 this is our an asset 1124 00:53:04,066 --> 00:53:04,866 that we are 1125 00:53:04,866 --> 00:53:08,000 are trying to ensure that we have a meaningful future. 1126 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,366 And I just I got to compliment the team that's working on this 1127 00:53:12,366 --> 00:53:13,366 to help make it happen. 1128 00:53:13,366 --> 00:53:15,000 And as Casey said, 1129 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,400 I told my structures team I want meaningful actions 1130 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,466 by the end of the year that we can move out on. 1131 00:53:21,566 --> 00:53:22,066 Thank you. 1132 00:53:22,066 --> 00:53:26,800 We have time for one more question. 1133 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,633 Can you hear me? 1134 00:53:29,633 --> 00:53:32,633 Hey, I have a question on the space 1135 00:53:32,633 --> 00:53:34,666 communications infrastructure. 1136 00:53:34,666 --> 00:53:37,200 Do you have insight on investments 1137 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,200 that we're doing in that area, not only with just direct 1138 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,866 with Earth communication, but also just 1139 00:53:43,966 --> 00:53:45,700 a constellation that we can have available 1140 00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:51,200 in the future for to support our MTS program? 1141 00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:52,100 Yeah, I'll tell you, 1142 00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:55,766 this is definitely a huge focus area for us. 1143 00:53:55,833 --> 00:53:57,900 I think 1144 00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,533 really Artem is one helped us 1145 00:54:00,533 --> 00:54:04,833 see and I think the James Webb Space Telescope also 1146 00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,266 how much pressure we're putting on our deep space network, 1147 00:54:08,266 --> 00:54:10,100 but our near space network, you know, 1148 00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:13,933 the technology is evolving, industry is evolving. 1149 00:54:14,033 --> 00:54:18,433 This is a pivotal moment for scan in communications. 1150 00:54:18,433 --> 00:54:21,066 And I think, 1151 00:54:21,133 --> 00:54:23,366 you know, it's really critical that we actually make 1152 00:54:23,366 --> 00:54:27,133 the technology investments and take the leap forward 1153 00:54:27,233 --> 00:54:30,566 to figure out how to use optical communications for deep space. 1154 00:54:30,566 --> 00:54:33,333 So I'm very excited about the deep space, 1155 00:54:33,333 --> 00:54:36,233 the desire to experiment on psyche, 1156 00:54:36,233 --> 00:54:39,300 which but but, you know, we also, as an agency 1157 00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:43,033 have to figure out how to tech transition 1158 00:54:43,133 --> 00:54:45,633 and there's going to be huge challenges ahead. 1159 00:54:45,633 --> 00:54:46,333 We'll have kind of 1160 00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:49,333 a hybrid architecture for for some time to come. 1161 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:52,033 But I think the right people are talking about it. 1162 00:54:52,033 --> 00:54:54,800 I think there's a lot of emphasis at the 1163 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,366 I know there's a lot of emphasis at our level about that. 1164 00:54:57,366 --> 00:54:59,066 Bob, do you want to add any 1165 00:54:59,066 --> 00:55:01,300 you know, this is, again, critical to our future. 1166 00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:05,166 We really overloaded the the whole scan 1167 00:55:05,166 --> 00:55:08,866 system, leave space, come with the Artemis mission. 1168 00:55:08,966 --> 00:55:13,466 But we're going to require an updated near Earth comm system. 1169 00:55:13,466 --> 00:55:14,866 Also, 1170 00:55:14,866 --> 00:55:18,266 as Pam said, October 5th, psyche is going to be launching 1171 00:55:18,266 --> 00:55:20,300 with optical comm demonstration on it. 1172 00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:21,566 That's going to be amazing. 1173 00:55:21,566 --> 00:55:23,566 We need a lunar comm architecture 1174 00:55:23,566 --> 00:55:26,233 and we're looking at how, you know, what 1175 00:55:26,233 --> 00:55:28,933 what should the government do and what can we do commercially? 1176 00:55:28,933 --> 00:55:31,600 Because there are others that are going to use this also. 1177 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,866 So the investments are being made. 1178 00:55:33,866 --> 00:55:36,633 You know, we've got a little bit of what happened out at Guam. 1179 00:55:36,633 --> 00:55:40,766 I think you all know they got by a huge 1180 00:55:40,833 --> 00:55:45,200 hurricane, typhoon, typhoon 1181 00:55:45,266 --> 00:55:48,600 out in the Pacific and it really impacted 1182 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,533 our communications network, our Tejas network. 1183 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,566 So, you know, those investments have to be made 1184 00:55:55,566 --> 00:55:57,066 to get that back up to speed. 1185 00:55:57,066 --> 00:55:58,900 But it's the investments for the future 1186 00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:00,133 that are even more critical so. 1187 00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:03,033 We're working hard to get the funding for the scan 1188 00:56:03,033 --> 00:56:06,666 to have a meaningful comm network as we move forward. 1189 00:56:06,733 --> 00:56:11,033 And by the way, we're in a space race going back to the moon. 1190 00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:16,300 And so this is a whole of government problem. 1191 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,700 This is not just Nassau needing the deep space network. 1192 00:56:21,766 --> 00:56:23,700 There are a lot of other agencies 1193 00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:26,700 that need the Deep Space network, 1194 00:56:26,833 --> 00:56:33,666 and we're all working together. 1195 00:56:33,733 --> 00:56:34,500 Well, thank you. 1196 00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:35,666 I hope Bob's got one more. 1197 00:56:35,666 --> 00:56:38,566 And I've got to warn you guys, I'm two. Absolutely one. 1198 00:56:38,566 --> 00:56:39,966 I forgot that 1199 00:56:39,966 --> 00:56:41,133 when I was up there, 1200 00:56:41,133 --> 00:56:43,733 I was going to close my talk with and I totally forgot. 1201 00:56:43,733 --> 00:56:47,066 I have to call out Joseph Pelfrey. 1202 00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:49,500 Joseph, you're doing an outstanding job 1203 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:52,633 leading the center here in taking care of the team. 1204 00:56:52,633 --> 00:56:54,666 And I just want to thank you for what you're doing. 1205 00:56:54,666 --> 00:57:04,466 You're doing you're doing awesome. 1206 00:57:04,533 --> 00:57:12,400 Well, nobody ask about the budget. 1207 00:57:12,466 --> 00:57:14,933 If you ask me what is going to happen 1208 00:57:14,933 --> 00:57:19,466 at the end of this month, I can't really tell you, 1209 00:57:19,533 --> 00:57:23,466 but you can look at history 1210 00:57:23,533 --> 00:57:25,333 and and 1211 00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:28,333 and look at the recent past. 1212 00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:30,266 In the recent past, 1213 00:57:30,266 --> 00:57:34,066 we had worked so hard for what's called 1214 00:57:34,066 --> 00:57:37,300 the president's budget for recommended for 20. 1215 00:57:37,333 --> 00:57:39,033 Four. 1216 00:57:39,033 --> 00:57:43,500 And we had gotten a substantial increase. 1217 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,833 And then along comes 1218 00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:48,366 reality 1219 00:57:48,366 --> 00:57:51,666 in a divided world that we're in. 1220 00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:55,100 And you get a small group 1221 00:57:55,166 --> 00:58:00,400 that can hold up the works and was threatening the default 1222 00:58:00,466 --> 00:58:05,100 of the full faith and credit of the United States government. 1223 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,366 So that obviously had to be taken care of. 1224 00:58:09,433 --> 00:58:14,800 And a compromise measure was put together bipartisan. 1225 00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:20,300 It was passed overwhelmed, mainly in both houses. 1226 00:58:20,366 --> 00:58:21,533 But the 1227 00:58:21,533 --> 00:58:25,566 compromise in order not to default 1228 00:58:25,633 --> 00:58:30,166 was to whack some spending, 1229 00:58:30,233 --> 00:58:33,166 and thus 1230 00:58:33,166 --> 00:58:35,733 what they basically said 1231 00:58:35,733 --> 00:58:39,700 was in order not to default. 1232 00:58:39,766 --> 00:58:44,600 The agreement is that the best you're going to get for 24 1233 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,566 fiscal year 24, which starts 1234 00:58:48,666 --> 00:58:51,533 in just a little bit, 1235 00:58:51,533 --> 00:58:55,266 is you're going to get 23 1236 00:58:55,333 --> 00:58:58,033 appropriations level. 1237 00:58:58,033 --> 00:59:01,500 And for 25 1238 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,300 you're going to get 23 appropriation 1239 00:59:04,300 --> 00:59:07,300 level plus 1%. 1240 00:59:07,433 --> 00:59:11,000 That's the very best you can get. 1241 00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:15,700 But coming up to the deadline of September 1242 00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:20,066 the 30th, October the first for the new fiscal year, 1243 00:59:20,166 --> 00:59:23,366 which is the beginning of the 24 1244 00:59:23,366 --> 00:59:26,366 fiscal year, 1245 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,600 a small group in the House is saying, 1246 00:59:29,666 --> 00:59:33,133 no, we want additional cuts. 1247 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,766 So much so that last night 1248 00:59:35,766 --> 00:59:42,400 they passed a bill that says additional 8% cuts. 1249 00:59:42,466 --> 00:59:46,433 Now, that's not going to pass, 1250 00:59:46,533 --> 00:59:49,533 so you don't have to worry about that. 1251 00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:53,466 But the fact is that 1252 00:59:53,533 --> 00:59:57,766 in both 24 and 25, 1253 00:59:57,833 --> 01:00:01,333 we're going to have to mind our P's and Q's. 1254 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,866 And it's the political 1255 01:00:03,866 --> 01:00:08,533 and economic reality. 1256 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,966 And so 1257 01:00:10,966 --> 01:00:12,566 the thing is, this 1258 01:00:12,566 --> 01:00:15,900 is what you ought to take out of here 1259 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,500 because of you, 1260 01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:22,833 because of all those 17,000 civil servants 1261 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,700 and 45,000 contractors that all wear 1262 01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:30,033 the massive badge. 1263 01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:32,066 Not only are we considered 1264 01:00:32,066 --> 01:00:35,800 the best place to work in the federal government, 1265 01:00:35,866 --> 01:00:39,400 but we are very popular 1266 01:00:39,466 --> 01:00:42,166 and we get support among ours. 1267 01:00:42,166 --> 01:00:45,133 And these. 1268 01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:46,633 And at the end of the day, 1269 01:00:46,633 --> 01:00:50,000 we may have to strain and grant, 1270 01:00:50,066 --> 01:00:54,666 but at the end of the day, we're going to be okay. 1271 01:00:54,733 --> 01:00:56,666 The moon to Mars program 1272 01:00:56,666 --> 01:01:02,633 is going to be okay 1273 01:01:02,733 --> 01:01:07,066 because I'll tell you where the angst right now is. 1274 01:01:07,066 --> 01:01:09,866 The angst is in science. 1275 01:01:09,866 --> 01:01:12,400 Because of some of the science 1276 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,400 projects like Mars Sample Return, 1277 01:01:16,466 --> 01:01:20,066 Dragonfly, 1278 01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:23,166 their costs have exploded. 1279 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,200 And so that's where the angst is, 1280 01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:29,633 will get the money for 1281 01:01:29,633 --> 01:01:32,500 to the moon, to Mars. 1282 01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:35,200 But in the meantime it's it's 1283 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,100 going to be some tough going. 1284 01:01:39,166 --> 01:01:41,833 But we've been through this before. 1285 01:01:41,833 --> 01:01:44,066 And the final thing that I'll tell you, 1286 01:01:44,066 --> 01:01:47,966 this is a new aspect of Nasser 1287 01:01:48,066 --> 01:01:52,333 that just really makes all of us feel good. 1288 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,400 Nasser is so popular 1289 01:01:55,533 --> 01:01:58,400 that when we go abroad, 1290 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,700 we can get in to the doors that are closed 1291 01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:06,066 to others in the United States government 1292 01:02:06,133 --> 01:02:09,133 and the example is 1293 01:02:09,333 --> 01:02:14,400 just having well, let's go back when 1294 01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:18,100 President Zelinsky came 1295 01:02:18,166 --> 01:02:20,233 to Washington 1296 01:02:20,233 --> 01:02:24,066 over a year ago after he visited with the president, 1297 01:02:24,066 --> 01:02:25,500 where do you want to go? 1298 01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:29,733 He came to Nasser. 1299 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,866 Foreign policy 1300 01:02:30,866 --> 01:02:34,533 vis a vis India is so important to us 1301 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:39,166 as a counter against the Chinese. 1302 01:02:39,233 --> 01:02:41,600 So when the Indian prime 1303 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,100 minister came for a state visit, 1304 01:02:45,166 --> 01:02:47,500 lo and behold, 1305 01:02:47,500 --> 01:02:49,833 there meeting with us. 1306 01:02:49,833 --> 01:02:52,500 And part of the deal is 1307 01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:55,100 that we're going to train an Indian astronaut 1308 01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:58,100 and we're going to fly him probably on a PM 1309 01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:02,866 private astronaut mission. 1310 01:03:02,933 --> 01:03:05,566 And they're going to go nuts 1311 01:03:05,566 --> 01:03:09,266 in India because of that. 1312 01:03:09,366 --> 01:03:12,700 When the Indian prime minister was there in the White House 1313 01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:15,700 and I had Sonny Williams with me, 1314 01:03:15,966 --> 01:03:19,633 the astronaut Sunita, 1315 01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:22,033 prime minister, was walking toward us. 1316 01:03:22,033 --> 01:03:25,233 And before he gets to us, he's saying out loud, 1317 01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:28,300 I know I knew her father. 1318 01:03:28,466 --> 01:03:34,733 I knew her father when we were boys and he was a singer. 1319 01:03:34,833 --> 01:03:39,600 And that goodwill is there. 1320 01:03:39,700 --> 01:03:42,166 We just came back from South America. 1321 01:03:42,166 --> 01:03:46,000 Brazil, by the way, where China is trying 1322 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,000 to make inroads in 1323 01:03:49,066 --> 01:03:52,733 South America, Africa 1324 01:03:52,833 --> 01:03:55,666 and some of the left leaning 1325 01:03:55,666 --> 01:04:00,900 elected presidents in South America are 1326 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,166 are playing footsie with the Chinese. 1327 01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:09,033 And the Chinese are coming in. 1328 01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:12,533 And some government officials they won't even see 1329 01:04:12,533 --> 01:04:17,366 unless it's their level of the head of state. 1330 01:04:17,466 --> 01:04:21,166 They'll see Nasser and they saw us 1331 01:04:21,233 --> 01:04:23,733 and we talk turkey with them 1332 01:04:23,733 --> 01:04:27,566 and we talk turkey with them in Columbia and in Brazil 1333 01:04:27,666 --> 01:04:31,433 on stuff that they need because those presidents 1334 01:04:31,666 --> 01:04:35,833 have a high agenda of trying to save the rainforest 1335 01:04:35,833 --> 01:04:39,333 in the upper Amazon, which is not only inches 1336 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,600 of importance to them, but the entire world. 1337 01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:45,466 And so we told them what we can share 1338 01:04:45,466 --> 01:04:49,866 with you from all of our instruments in space 1339 01:04:49,933 --> 01:04:52,933 that make us, by the way, not only a space agency, 1340 01:04:52,933 --> 01:04:56,533 aeronautical agency, we are a climate agency 1341 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,600 because of all the stuff up there 1342 01:04:59,633 --> 01:05:02,633 that is measuring very precisely 1343 01:05:02,666 --> 01:05:05,666 what is happening on this planet. 1344 01:05:05,833 --> 01:05:09,333 So as you look down the road, 1345 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,633 just recognize at the end of the day 1346 01:05:11,633 --> 01:05:12,600 it's going to be all right. 1347 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,500 There'll be some bumps along the way on this budget. 1348 01:05:17,566 --> 01:05:20,266 It is a sign of the times. 1349 01:05:20,266 --> 01:05:23,266 I wish it were not that way. 1350 01:05:23,366 --> 01:05:26,600 But I can tell you that Nasser 1351 01:05:26,666 --> 01:05:30,800 brings people together and Nasser unites. 1352 01:05:30,866 --> 01:05:34,566 And that's not only in domestic politics, 1353 01:05:34,633 --> 01:05:47,666 that is around the world as well. 1354 01:05:47,766 --> 01:05:48,400 Thank you, sir. 1355 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,100 Casey, you got any closing remarks? 1356 01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:53,800 I will defer my remarks to these two. 1357 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,866 Okay. Bob, anything else? 1358 01:05:56,933 --> 01:05:59,933 We can't follow that. 1359 01:06:00,066 --> 01:06:03,033 And you're going to expect me to now. 1360 01:06:03,033 --> 01:06:04,900 So thank you very much. 1361 01:06:04,900 --> 01:06:06,433 Really appreciate you guys 1362 01:06:06,433 --> 01:06:08,333 being here to talk to the workforce 1363 01:06:08,333 --> 01:06:11,933 and for the workforce for your questions and engagement. 1364 01:06:12,033 --> 01:06:13,300 Thank you, Bob, for your comments. 1365 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:14,533 I cannot take all the credit, 1366 01:06:14,533 --> 01:06:17,066 Ray and Larry, our whole leadership team 1367 01:06:17,066 --> 01:06:19,333 has been tremendous in leading through this transition 1368 01:06:19,333 --> 01:06:21,333 and will continue to do so until we're told to stop. 1369 01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:24,700 So we have exciting future ahead. 1370 01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:27,666 We have a tremendous workforce to accomplish these missions. 1371 01:06:27,666 --> 01:06:30,066 And I couldn't be prouder of our team 1372 01:06:30,066 --> 01:06:32,266 and what we have to look forward to going forward. 1373 01:06:32,266 --> 01:06:35,766 So thank you for taking time to be here at our workforce. 1374 01:06:35,833 --> 01:06:37,600 And you guys have a great week. Thank you.