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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, WELCOME TO

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KENNEDY SPACE CENTER.

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THIS MORNING NASA WAIVED OFF THE

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LAUNCH ATTEMPT AFTER A LIQUID

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HYDROGEN LEAK WHILE FILLING

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PROPELLANT.

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THE TEAM WASN'T ABLE TO

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TROUBLESHOOT THE ISSUE.

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BUT TO TELL US MORE ABOUT THE

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NEXT STEPS, WE HAVE BILL NELSON.

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ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR OF

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EXPLORATION SYSTEM, JIM FREED.

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AND MISSION MANAGER, MIKE.

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FIRST, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO

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NELSON FOR REMARKS.

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>> WELL, WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THE

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LAUNCH WE WANTED TODAY, I CAN

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TELL YOU THAT THESE TEAMS KNOW

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EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND

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I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM.

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YOU THINK BACK TO PREVIOUS SPACE

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FLIGHTS, THE SHUTTLE WAS SENT

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BACK TO THE VEHICLE ASSEMBLY

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BUILDING 20 TIMES.

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ALREADY SHARED WITH YOU MY

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PERSONAL EXPERIENCE BACK IN THE

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EARLY PART OF THE SPACE SHUTTLE

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PROGRAM OF THE CREW HAVING BEEN

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STRAPPED IN, READY TO GO AND

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SCRUBBED FOUR TIMES WITH A DELAY

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OVER THE BETTER PART OF THE

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MONTH.

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WE DO NOT LAUNCH UNTIL WE THINK

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IT'S RIGHT.

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AND THESE TEAMS HAVE LABORED

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OVER THAT AND THAT IS THE

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CONCLUSION THEY CAME TO.

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I LOOK AT THIS AS A PART OF OUR

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SPACE PROGRAM OF WHICH SAFETY IS

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THE TEMPERATURE OF THE LIST.

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THEY WILL TELL YOU STARTING WITH

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JIM, THEY WILL TELL YOU THE

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SPECIFIC REASONS WHY THEY

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DECIDED TO STAND DOWN.

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AND WHAT THEY THINK THE FUTURE

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HOLDS.

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JUST REMEMBER, WE ARE NOT GOING

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TO LAUNCH UNTIL IT'S RIGHT.

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AND THAT IS STANDARD OPERATING

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PROCEDURE.

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AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.

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>> THANK YOU, SIR.

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GOOD AFTERNOON.

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ABSOLUTELY, I HOPE YOU KNOW WE

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ARE NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE

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EXCEPT THE VEHICLE IS SAFE.

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WE WANTED IT SAFE IN ORBIT.

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IT'S NOT THERE, IT'S SAFE ON THE

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GROUND.

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I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BIG

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PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE HEADED

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WITH THE LAUNCH PERIODS AND THEN

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I WILL LET MIKE FILL YOU IN ON

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SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED

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TODAY.

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CHARLIE BLACK WELL THOMPSON IS

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BACK IN THE LAUNCH CENTER WITH

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HER TEAM WORKING THROUGH SOME OF

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THE NEXT STEPS THAT THE MISSION

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MANAGEMENT TEAM ASKED HER TO DO

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TODAY.

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SO WE, LAUNCH PERIOD 25 IS OFF

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THE TABLE.

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WE WON'T BE LAUNCHING THIS

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PERIOD ENDS ON TUESDAY.

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WE WILL NOT BE LAUNCHING IN THIS

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LAUNCH PERIOD.

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LAUNCH PERIOD 26 AND 27 WILL

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REALLY DEPEND ON THE OPTIONS

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THAT THE TEAM COMES BACK WITH

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LIKELY ON MONDAY OR EARLY DECON.

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CREW 5 WANTS TO KNOW, WE NEED TO

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MAKE SURE WE DECONFLICT WITH

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THEM.

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THAT WILL WEIGH INTO WHAT WE DO.

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AS WE GET INTO LAUNCH PERIOD 27

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IN THE LATTER PART OF OCTOBER,

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WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A LOT OF

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THINGS, OUR LIMITED LIFE ITEMS,

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OUR STAY ON THE PAD DURATIONS

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THAT WE HAVE, AND, OF COURSE, WE

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ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT WEATHER,

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AS A GENERAL COURSE OF ACTION,

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FOR SOME OF THE STORM ACTIVITY

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THAT CONDITION OUT THERE.

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I'M SURE THERE IS A QUESTION YOU

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ARE CONFIDENT.

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I LOVE THAT QUESTION.

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ARE YOU CONFIDENT YOU ARE GOING

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TO GET OUT OF BED IN THE

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MORNING.

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WE DON'T JUST SAY WE HOPE THIS

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IS GOING TO WORK.

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THE CONFIDENCE TO DO ANOTHER

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LAUNCH ATTEMPT WAS BORN OUT OF

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THE FACT THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE

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HYDROGEN LEAKS WE HAD ON MONDAY.

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THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE

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LEAK WE HAD TODAY.

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IN TERMS OF SCALE, ONE WAS IN

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THE SAME PLACE, BUT TODAY WAS A

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DIFFERENT SIGNATURE.

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AND WE UNDERSTOOD THE ENGINE

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ISSUES.

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WE WERE CONFIDENT COMING INTO

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TODAY.

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BUT AS THE ADMINISTRATOR SAID,

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WE ARE NOT GOING TO LAUNCH UNTIL

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WE ARE READY, WHICH MEANS WE ARE

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GOING TO STEP THROUGH THESE

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THINGS.

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THERE IS A LOT OF CONJECTURE.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE

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IN THAT MMT ROOM TODAY, A

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HUNDRED PLUS FOLKS, MOST

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ENGINEERS, EVERYBODY THINKING

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ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM.

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THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS ON THE LOOPS

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WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE

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THINGS.

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FOLKS ARE GIVING OPTIONS.

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THE ANOMALY LOOPS ARE ACTIVE,

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FROM THE TIME WE SAW THE

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SIGNATURE UNTIL CHARLIE MADE THE

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RIGHT DECISION TO SCRUB.

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OUR CONFIDENCE COMES THROUGH

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WHAT WE LEARN FROM THIS, WHEN WE

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ARE READY TO GO BACK OUT THERE,

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WE'LL GO BACK OUT AND TRY FOR

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ANOTHER LAUNCH.

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MICHAEL WILL LAY OUT WHAT WE

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HAVE IN BETWEEN.

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OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS

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MISSION BEING RISKY.

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WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE RISKS

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THAT MAKE SENSE.

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THE RISKS THAT HAVE PUSHED THE

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VEHICLE IN THE SYSTEM AS FAR AS

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IT WILL WHEN WE LAUNCH, AND BE

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READY TO GO AT THAT TIME.

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SO WITH THAT, LET ME TURN OVER

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TO MIKE FOR MORE SPECIFICS.

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>> OKAY.

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GOOD AFTERNOON, AGAIN.

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THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO

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FOLLOW THE ARTEMIS 1 MISSION AND

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OUR PROGRAM.

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I WILL RECAP WHERE WE LEFT OFF

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THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE WHICH

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WAS AFTER THE LAUNCH MINUS 2

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MISSION MANAGEMENT MEETING ON

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THE FIRST, TO HEAD INTO THIS

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LAUNCH ATTEMPT.

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IF YOU RECALL THE LAUNCH CONTROL

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CENTER STAYED IN THE COUNTDOWN

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FOLLOWING THE ATTEMPT ON MONDAY.

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THAT GAVE US A HEAD START HEADED

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INTO TODAY'S ATTEMPT.

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THE TEAM, WHEN WE CAME IN FOR

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THE TANKING MEETING, WHICH WAS

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TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO LOAD

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THE VEHICLE WAS ON THE TIMELINE

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WE MET AT 0445 THIS MORNING.

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WE TALKED ABOUT OUR SETUP FOR

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WERE OF NO PARTICULAR CONSTRAINT

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RELATIVE TO SETTING UP FOR OUR

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LAUNCH ATTEMPT.

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THE TEAM IDENTIFIED THAT THEY

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HAD 46 COLLISION AVOIDANCE

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CUTOUTS IN THE LAUNCH WINDOW.

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MOST WERE A MINUTE OR I'M SORRY

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MOST WERE A FEW SECONDS.

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THE LONGEST WERE A MINUTE.

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WE DO HAVE AT THIS PARTICULAR

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TIME OF YEAR A HIGH PROPELLANT

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BULK TEMPERATURE WHICH GIVES US

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MORE PERFORMANCE OUT OF THE

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ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE A HOT ROCKET

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LAUNCH, AND THAT ACTUALLY, AS WE

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ATMOSPHERE, PUSHES THE HIGHER

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END OF THE DYNAMIC PRESSURE OR Q

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BAR.

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WE HAD POSITIVE MARGINS, BUT

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LOWER MARGINS ON ONE AREA ON THE

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ORION SPACECRAFT.

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THE VEHICLE WAS EXPECTED TO GET

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UP TO 700 POUNDS PER SQUARE

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THAT THE TEAM WAS WORKING

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THROUGH A CHILL-DOWN.

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THERE WAS AN INADVERTENT

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PRESSURIZATION OF THE HYDROGEN

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TRANSFER LINE THAT THE PRESSURE

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EXCEEDED WHAT WE HAD PLANNED,

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SQUARE INCH.

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IT GOT UP TO 60 POUNDS PER

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THE FLIGHT HARDWARE ITSELF, WE

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KNOW IS FINE.

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WE DID NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM

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DESIGN PRESSURE BUT THERE'S A

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CHANCE THAT THE SOFT GOODS OR

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THE SEAL IN THE QUICK DISCONNECT

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AT THE 8 INCHES QUICK DISCONNECT

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SAW EFFECTS FROM THAT.

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BUT IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL

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WHETHER THAT WAS THE CAUSE OF

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THE HYDROGEN LEAK TODAY.

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WE SAW A LARGE LEAK AT THE

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8 INCHES QUICK DISCONNECT TODAY.

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AND THAT LEAK STARTED WHEN WE

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WENT FROM THE SLOW FILL TO THE

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FAST FILL.

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THIS PARTICULAR QUICK DISCONNECT

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DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM OF THIS

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MAGNITUDE ON MONDAY.

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WE DID SEE A SMALL LEAK, BUT DID

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NOT SEE ONE OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

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IT WAS CHARACTERIZED AS A LARGE

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LEAK BY OUR OPERATIONS TEAM.

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THE TEAM TRIED THREE TIMES TO

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RESOLVE THE LEAK AND ALL THREE

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TIMES WE SAW A LARGE LEAK.

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AND AS WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY,

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IF YOU CAN STABILIZE BOTH SIDES

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OF THAT QUICK DISCONNECT, WE

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HAVE A GROUND SIDE AND FLIGHT

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SIDE, THAT'S WHERE THE FLUID

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FLOW OCCURS THROUGH.

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IF YOU CAN CHILL THAT DOWN AND

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ENSURE THERE IS NO DIFFERENTIAL

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TEMPERATURE, SOMETIMES THE LEAKS

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CAN SEAL THEMSELVES OR HEAL

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THEMSELVES.

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THE TEAM ATTEMPTED THAT.

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THEY ATTEMPTED TO RESEAT THE

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LEAK BY INCREASING THE PRESSURE

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IN IN.

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AND THAT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL.

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INITIALLY THE TEAM DECLARED THE

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SCRUB AT 11:17 EASTERN TIME.

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WENT INTO VEHICLE SAFE CAN AND

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DRAINED THE CRYO.

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THE TEAM WILL GET INTO PUTTING

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NITROGEN IN THERE AS TO NOT

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CONDENSE WATER VAPOR IN THE TANK

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AREA.

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THEN THEY WILL SWAP OVER TO AIR.

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WHAT THAT DOES, IT ALLOWS US TO

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GET THE TANKS BACK TO AMBIENT

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CONDITIONS AND FOR US TO GAIN

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ACCESS.

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IN THE SCRUB MEETING WE HAD AT

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2:30 EASTERN, WE TALKED ABOUT

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THREE OPTIONS.

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THE FIRST OPTION WAS TO SIMPLY

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REMATE THE UMBILICAL AT THE PAD

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HOPING THAT THE SOFT GOODS WOULD

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SEAL THE LEAK OUT.

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BUT OUR CONFIDENCE LEVEL, GIVEN

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THE SIZE OF THE LEAK WE SAW

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TODAY WAS FAIRLY LOW THAT THAT

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WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

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THE TEAM LEANED TOWARDS A

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REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE

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SOFT GOODS IN THE QUICK

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DISCONNECT.

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THE OPTIONS WERE TO DO IT AT THE

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PAD OR DO IT BACK IN THE VEHICLE

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ASSEMBLY BUILDING.

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EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS DO NOT

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PRESERVE OUR ABILITY TO FLY

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BEFORE THE END OF THIS LAUNCH

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PERIOD WHICH EXPIRES ON THE

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6th.

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THE TEAM IS DEVELOPING A SERIES

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OF SCHEDULE OPTIONS.

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WE'LL HEAR ABOUT THOSE EARLY

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NEXT WEEK.

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THE SCHEDULE OPTIONS INCLUDE

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REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE

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SOFT GOODS ON THE QUICK

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DISCONNECT AT THE PAD FOLLOWED

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BY A CRYOTEST.

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THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN GET

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A FULL CRYOTEST TO ENSURE WE

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DON'T HAVE FURTHER ISSUE WITH

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RESPECT TO LEAKS AT THE

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TEMPERATURES THAT WE NEED TO

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FILL THE VEHICLE ON DAY OF

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LAUNCH.

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THE OTHER OPTION IS TO ROLL BACK

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AND REMOVE AND REPLACE THE QUICK

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DISCONNECT SOFT GOODS IN THE

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VEHICLE ASSEMBLY BUILDING.

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THERE IS A RISK VERSUS RISK.

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DOING IT AT THE PAD, YOU ARE

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EXPOSED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL

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CONDITIONS.

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WE DO IT IN THE ASSEMBLY

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BUILDING, WE CANNOT TEST THIS

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QUICK DISCONNECT.

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WE CAN ONLY DO IT AT AMBIENT

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TEMPERATURES.

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WE ARE WORKING THROUGH OPTIONS.

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THE TEAM, IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY,

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BUT THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH WHY

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WE DIDN'T SEE A LEAK OF THIS

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MAGNITUDE ON MONDAY, BUT WE ARE

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SEEING IT TODAY.

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THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE

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CHILL-DOWN PROCEDURE TO LOOK AT

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ADDITIONAL CONTROLS SUCH THAT WE

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DON'T HAVE A REOCCURRENCE OF THE

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PRESSURE WE HAD EARLIER TODAY.

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ALL THAT SAID, WE TALKED ABOUT

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IT BEFORE, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY

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HARD BUSINESS, THIS IS AN

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INITIAL TEST FLIGHT OF THIS

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VEHICLE AS WAS SAID BY

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ADMINISTRATOR NELSON.

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WE ARE GOING TO FLY WHEN WE ARE

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READY.

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AS PART OF THIS TEST FLIGHT, WE

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ARE LEARNING ABOUT THE VEHICLE,

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LEARNING HOW TO OPERATE THE

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VEHICLE, AND LEARNING ALL OF THE

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THINGS REQUIRED TO GET US READY

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TO FLY.

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WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED A LARGE

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NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS, NOT ONLY

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THROUGH WET DRESS AND SOME OF

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THE OTHER GROUND TESTS THAT WE

354
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HAVE HAD.

355
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BUT WE ARE STILL LEARNING AS WE

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GO TO GET THIS VEHICLE OFF

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SAFELY.

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OUR FOCUS IS ON UNDERSTANDING

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THE PROBLEM.

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DEVELOPING SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF

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SCHEDULE, BUT ALSO RISK VERSUS

362
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RISK IMPACTS.

363
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AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP NEXT WEEK

364
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WHEN WE HAVE THOSE OPTIONS

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FLUSHED OUT FURTHER.

366
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>> NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR

367
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QUESTIONS IN THE ROOM AND ALSO

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ON THE PHONES.

369
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ON THE PHONE, AS A REMINDER,

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PRESS STAR 1 TO GET INTO THE

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CUE.

372
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IN YOUR ROOM, IF YOU CAN LEAVE

373
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YOUR HAND HIGH FOR THE MIC

374
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FOLKS.

375
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FIRST UP IS JERRY WITH REUTERS.

376
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>> QUESTION FOR MIKE.

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IF YOU DECIDE TO ROLL BACK, I

378
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KNOW IT'S UNCERTAIN RIGHT NOW,

379
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WHAT'S THE QUICKEST YOU COULD

380
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ROLL BACK OUT TO THE PAD?

381
00:15:57,773 --> 00:15:59,942
WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AND

382
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WHAT OTHER THINGS WOULD YOU HAVE

383
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TO DO WHILE IT'S THERE?

384
00:16:02,311 --> 00:16:04,179
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL

385
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WEEKS TO DO THAT.

386
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DEPENDING ON THE REQUIRED WORK

387
00:16:09,318 --> 00:16:11,186
AT THE PAD OR WHETHER WE DO IT

388
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IN THE VEHICLE ASSEMBLY

389
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BUILDING, THAT WILL DETERMINE

390
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THE EXACT SCHEDULE.

391
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IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY HOW MANY

392
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DAYS.

393
00:16:20,763 --> 00:16:31,607
>> UP NEXT ON THE PHONES, WE

394
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HAVE MARCIA DUNN WITH THE AP.

395
00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:44,820
>> Caller: YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

396
00:16:44,820 --> 00:16:45,387
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU.

397
00:16:45,387 --> 00:16:47,222
>> Caller: YES, I WAS WONDERING,

398
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IF YOU DO THE REPAIRS AT THE PAD

399
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AND IT GOES WELL, YOU COULD

400
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STILL MAYBE GET OFF IN

401
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SEPTEMBER, BY THE END OF THE

402
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MONTH, BEFORE THE SpaceX

403
00:16:50,492 --> 00:16:51,093
LAUNCH COMING UP AT THE

404
00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:51,660
BEGINNING OF OCTOBER?

405
00:16:51,660 --> 00:16:52,261
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?

406
00:16:52,261 --> 00:16:55,597
THE WAY THINGS STAND RIGHT NOW,

407
00:16:55,597 --> 00:16:56,799
WHICH WAY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE

408
00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:58,000
LEANING FOR?

409
00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,333
THANKS.

410
00:16:58,333 --> 00:17:04,973
>> I WILL TAKE THE FIRST PART OF

411
00:17:04,973 --> 00:17:05,274
THAT.

412
00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:06,508
I THINK WE STILL HAVE OUR

413
00:17:06,508 --> 00:17:07,242
CONSTRAINT ON THE RANGE, WITH

414
00:17:07,242 --> 00:17:08,510
THE RANGE TO TEST OUR FLIGHT

415
00:17:08,510 --> 00:17:09,645
TERMINATION SYSTEM, RIGHT NOW WE

416
00:17:09,645 --> 00:17:10,579
HAVE 25 DAYS.

417
00:17:10,579 --> 00:17:12,981
I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TALK

418
00:17:12,981 --> 00:17:15,384
WITH THE RANGE ABOUT WHAT THE

419
00:17:15,384 --> 00:17:16,318
POSSIBILITIES ARE.

420
00:17:16,318 --> 00:17:18,687
IN ORDER TO TEST OUR BATTERIES,

421
00:17:18,687 --> 00:17:20,355
CHANGE OUT THE BATTERIES, WE

422
00:17:20,355 --> 00:17:22,057
HAVE TO ROLL BACK FOR THAT.

423
00:17:22,057 --> 00:17:25,961
I WILL LET YOU HANDLE THE

424
00:17:25,961 --> 00:17:26,295
OPTIONS.

425
00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:28,464
>> MARCIA, WITH RESPECT TO

426
00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:29,932
WHETHER OR NOT SEPTEMBER, THE

427
00:17:29,932 --> 00:17:32,735
LATTER PART OF SEPTEMBER IS

428
00:17:32,735 --> 00:17:35,237
STILL IN THE TRADE SPACE, IT'S

429
00:17:35,237 --> 00:17:37,539
TOO EARLY TO TELL.

430
00:17:37,539 --> 00:17:39,842
IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT DOES THE

431
00:17:39,842 --> 00:17:41,744
FALL TREE ANALYSIS TELL US, WHAT

432
00:17:41,744 --> 00:17:44,747
ARE THE CHANGES AND MITIGATIONS

433
00:17:44,747 --> 00:17:46,415
REQUIRED TO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT

434
00:17:46,415 --> 00:17:49,151
WE HAVE RESOLVED THIS LARGE LEAK

435
00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:52,454
AT THE 8-INCH QUICK DISCONNECT.

436
00:17:52,454 --> 00:17:53,622
WE'LL HAVE A BETTER ANSWER EARLY

437
00:17:53,622 --> 00:17:54,389
NEXT WEEK.

438
00:17:54,389 --> 00:17:57,159
RIGHT NOW IT'S TOO EARLY TO

439
00:17:57,159 --> 00:17:57,459
TELL.

440
00:17:57,459 --> 00:18:10,506
>> NEXT.

441
00:18:10,506 --> 00:18:17,012
WE HAVE TOM COSTELLO WITH NBC.

442
00:18:17,012 --> 00:18:17,546
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

443
00:18:17,546 --> 00:18:18,313
COULD I CLARIFY, YOU SAID THAT

444
00:18:18,313 --> 00:18:18,814
THE LINE HAD BEEN

445
00:18:18,814 --> 00:18:19,548
OVER-PRESSURIZED UP TO 60 PSI.

446
00:18:19,548 --> 00:18:20,282
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT CAUSED THE

447
00:18:20,282 --> 00:18:20,582
LEAK?

448
00:18:20,582 --> 00:18:22,084
AND ANY IDEA HOW THAT LINE WAS

449
00:18:22,084 --> 00:18:22,584
OVER-PRESSURIZED?

450
00:18:22,584 --> 00:18:23,786
>> MIKE TALKED ABOUT THE FAULT

451
00:18:23,786 --> 00:18:24,086
TREE.

452
00:18:24,086 --> 00:18:27,055
WE HAVE TO GO LOOK AT IS THAT A

453
00:18:27,055 --> 00:18:28,924
CAUSE, IS THAT THE CAUSE.

454
00:18:28,924 --> 00:18:30,692
I'M SURE IT WILL END UP ON THE

455
00:18:30,692 --> 00:18:31,493
FAULT TREE.

456
00:18:31,493 --> 00:18:33,996
BUT WE HAVE TO RUN THROUGH ALL

457
00:18:33,996 --> 00:18:35,497
LEGS BEFORE WE DECIDE THAT'S

458
00:18:35,497 --> 00:18:38,934
ABSOLUTELY THE CAUSE.

459
00:18:38,934 --> 00:18:41,703
WE DO, I THINK, I FORGET THE

460
00:18:41,703 --> 00:18:44,773
WORDS YOU USED LAST, WE TUNE IN

461
00:18:44,773 --> 00:18:45,874
THIS HYDROGEN.

462
00:18:45,874 --> 00:18:47,543
WE DID THAT ON MONDAY.

463
00:18:47,543 --> 00:18:49,745
MONDAY WE SAW IT START TO GO UP

464
00:18:49,745 --> 00:18:52,948
AND WE SLOWED THE RATE AND DID A

465
00:18:52,948 --> 00:18:53,749
MANUAL FILL.

466
00:18:53,749 --> 00:18:55,551
THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.

467
00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:58,987
AND WE NEED TO LOOK, AS MIKE

468
00:18:58,987 --> 00:19:00,823
SAID, TO AUTOMATE THAT AND GET

469
00:19:00,823 --> 00:19:03,358
THE PLACES WHERE IT WILL CUT OUT

470
00:19:03,358 --> 00:19:06,695
IF THE PRESSURE IS GOING TOO

471
00:19:06,695 --> 00:19:06,995
HIGH.

472
00:19:06,995 --> 00:19:09,598
SO WE DON'T HIT THAT KIND OF

473
00:19:09,598 --> 00:19:10,065
COMMAND AGAIN.

474
00:19:10,065 --> 00:19:11,967
THAT WOULD BE PART OF WHAT WE

475
00:19:11,967 --> 00:19:14,069
AUTOMATE AND PRACTICE FOR THE

476
00:19:14,069 --> 00:19:14,937
NEXT TIME.

477
00:19:14,937 --> 00:19:15,871
IT'S ON THE FAULT TREE.

478
00:19:15,871 --> 00:19:18,040
IT'S TOUGH TO SAY RIGHT NOW THAT

479
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,742
IS THE ABSOLUTE CAUSE.

480
00:19:20,742 --> 00:19:27,082
>> CHRIS DAVENPORT, WASHINGTON

481
00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:27,382
POST.

482
00:19:27,382 --> 00:19:28,016
>> THANK YOU.

483
00:19:28,016 --> 00:19:30,919
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU ARE

484
00:19:30,919 --> 00:19:43,866
GOING BACK TO THE VAB NO MATTER

485
00:19:43,866 --> 00:19:44,166
WHAT?

486
00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:44,933
AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD TALK

487
00:19:44,933 --> 00:19:53,609
ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES WITH THIS

488
00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:54,343
HYDROGEN LEAK, THIS BIG ONE YOU

489
00:19:54,343 --> 00:19:55,043
HAD, VERSUS THE ONE YOU WERE

490
00:19:55,043 --> 00:19:55,711
ABLE TO OVERCOME ON MONDAY.

491
00:19:55,711 --> 00:19:56,044
THANKS.

492
00:19:56,044 --> 00:19:56,778
>> FOR THE VAB PART OF IT, IT'S

493
00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:57,179
WHAT I SAID.

494
00:19:57,179 --> 00:19:57,713
WE HAVE TO GO BACK.

495
00:19:57,713 --> 00:19:58,447
WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH

496
00:19:58,447 --> 00:19:59,181
THE RANGE WE CAN LAUNCH WHEN OUR

497
00:19:59,181 --> 00:19:59,882
BATTERIES HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED

498
00:19:59,882 --> 00:20:00,315
AFTER 25 DAYS.

499
00:20:00,315 --> 00:20:02,451
SO THAT RUNS OUT HERE, AS MIKE

500
00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:02,918
SAID.

501
00:20:02,918 --> 00:20:04,586
AND SO IN ORDER TO CHANGE THEM

502
00:20:04,586 --> 00:20:06,355
OUT, WE HAVE TO GO BACK.

503
00:20:06,355 --> 00:20:07,856
TO GET THAT KIND OF EXTENSION

504
00:20:07,856 --> 00:20:09,625
WITH THE RANGE IS SOMETHING WE

505
00:20:09,625 --> 00:20:11,193
HAVE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT.

506
00:20:11,193 --> 00:20:12,995
RIGHT NOW OUR POSITION IS WE'LL

507
00:20:12,995 --> 00:20:15,397
HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VAB.

508
00:20:15,397 --> 00:20:17,332
WHEN WE GO BACK, IT WILL DEPEND

509
00:20:17,332 --> 00:20:19,067
ON THE TESTING OPTIONS MIKE

510
00:20:19,067 --> 00:20:19,768
TALKED ABOUT.

511
00:20:19,768 --> 00:20:22,604
>> TO TAKE A CRACK AT THE SECOND

512
00:20:22,604 --> 00:20:23,739
PART OF YOUR QUESTION THERE,

513
00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:25,807
CHRIS, IN TERMS OF THE LEAK THAT

514
00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:29,578
WE SAW ON MONDAY, IT WAS A

515
00:20:29,578 --> 00:20:30,779
MANAGEABLE LEAK.

516
00:20:30,779 --> 00:20:32,481
THIS WAS NOT A MANAGEABLE LEAK.

517
00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:36,485
AS SOON AS WE STARTED TO GET IN

518
00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,487
TO FAST FILL AND WE NEED TO GET

519
00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:41,590
INTO FAST FILL AS PART OF THIS

520
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:46,161
BALANCE OF YOU WANT TO LOAD

521
00:20:46,161 --> 00:20:48,130
WITHIN THE CAPABILITY OF THE

522
00:20:48,130 --> 00:20:50,399
QUICK DISCONNECT WHICH TELLS YOU

523
00:20:50,399 --> 00:20:51,733
WANT TO SLOW IT DOWN.

524
00:20:51,733 --> 00:20:53,635
BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO SPEED IT UP

525
00:20:53,635 --> 00:20:55,170
SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR LAUNCH

526
00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:57,139
WINDOW SO YOU HAVE THIS BALANCE

527
00:20:57,139 --> 00:21:00,208
BETWEEN THE FLOW RATE AND THE

528
00:21:00,208 --> 00:21:01,643
PRESSURE AND IF THERE'S A LEAK

529
00:21:01,643 --> 00:21:03,745
PRESENT, YOU NEED TO MANAGE

530
00:21:03,745 --> 00:21:04,046
THAT.

531
00:21:04,046 --> 00:21:05,414
ON MONDAY THE TEAM WAS ABLE TO

532
00:21:05,414 --> 00:21:06,648
SUCCESSFULLY WORK THEIR WAY

533
00:21:06,648 --> 00:21:09,851
THROUGH THAT WHILE STAYING BELOW

534
00:21:09,851 --> 00:21:12,187
THE HAZARDOUS CONCENTRATION

535
00:21:12,187 --> 00:21:13,422
LIMIT OF THE HYDROGEN THAT WAS

536
00:21:13,422 --> 00:21:14,890
LEAKING OUT.

537
00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:15,891
WE WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT TODAY.

538
00:21:15,891 --> 00:21:18,193
IT WAS A MUCH LARGER LEAK.

539
00:21:18,193 --> 00:21:19,895
THE TEAM TRIED TO WORK AND USE

540
00:21:19,895 --> 00:21:23,031
THE SAME TECHNIQUE AS PART OF A

541
00:21:23,031 --> 00:21:24,399
PRE-PLANNED PROCEDURE.

542
00:21:24,399 --> 00:21:29,237
THEY TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES AND

543
00:21:29,237 --> 00:21:30,572
THAT DIDN'T WORK.

544
00:21:30,572 --> 00:21:33,208
THEY TRIED TO BUMP THE QUICK

545
00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:35,043
DISCONNECT AND RECEDE IT, NONE

546
00:21:35,043 --> 00:21:37,713
OF THOSE TECHNIQUES USED.

547
00:21:37,713 --> 00:21:40,816
THE TECHNIQUES WE USED ON MONDAY

548
00:21:40,816 --> 00:21:46,488
WERE NOT WORKING IN OUR FAVOR.

549
00:21:46,488 --> 00:21:55,931
>> THANKS, MIKE.

550
00:21:55,931 --> 00:21:56,631
CHRISTIAN FISCHER WITH CNN.

551
00:21:56,631 --> 00:21:57,065
>> THANK YOU.

552
00:21:57,065 --> 00:21:57,899
JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS A

553
00:21:57,899 --> 00:21:58,867
PRECEDENT FOR GETTING AN

554
00:21:58,867 --> 00:22:00,135
EXTENSION WITH THE RANGE ON

555
00:22:00,135 --> 00:22:01,136
SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

556
00:22:01,136 --> 00:22:03,338
HAS THAT EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE?

557
00:22:03,338 --> 00:22:05,841
OR IF YOU WERE TO ASK FOR THE

558
00:22:05,841 --> 00:22:06,641
RANGE FOR THAT, TO ALLOW THE

559
00:22:06,641 --> 00:22:08,443
VEHICLE TO STAY ON THE LAUNCH

560
00:22:08,443 --> 00:22:11,213
PAD BEFORE NEXT ATTEMPT, WOULD

561
00:22:11,213 --> 00:22:12,414
THAT BE SOMETHING THAT HASN'T

562
00:22:12,414 --> 00:22:13,348
BEEN DONE BEFORE?

563
00:22:13,348 --> 00:22:16,952
>> WE WORKED WITH THEM TO GO

564
00:22:16,952 --> 00:22:18,754
FROM 20 TO 25 DAYS SHOWING THEM

565
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,690
THE TECHNICAL DATA THEY NEEDED

566
00:22:21,690 --> 00:22:24,393
TO SEE ABOUT THE INTEGRITY MUCH

567
00:22:24,393 --> 00:22:25,127
OUR SYSTEM.

568
00:22:25,127 --> 00:22:27,596
THERE IS PROBABLY OTHER ONES.

569
00:22:27,596 --> 00:22:31,700
WE JUST NEGOTIATED WITH THEM TO

570
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:32,701
GO FROM 20 TO 25.

571
00:22:32,701 --> 00:22:34,569
>> DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT

572
00:22:34,569 --> 00:22:36,271
THERE IS A CHANCE THAT PERHAPS

573
00:22:36,271 --> 00:22:37,939
THIS ROCKET COULD STAY ON THE

574
00:22:37,939 --> 00:22:42,144
PAD BEFORE NEXT LAUNCH ATTEMPT?

575
00:22:42,144 --> 00:22:45,781
>> MY CONJECTURE IS I DON'T

576
00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:46,114
KNOW.

577
00:22:46,114 --> 00:22:47,649
IT'S REALLY THEIR CALL.

578
00:22:47,649 --> 00:22:51,420
AND I THINK WE HAVE DATA THAT

579
00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:51,987
PROBABLY SUPPORTS IT.

580
00:22:51,987 --> 00:22:52,988
I KNOW OUR FOLKS ARE GOING TO

581
00:22:52,988 --> 00:22:54,856
TALK TO THE RANGE AS SOON AS

582
00:22:54,856 --> 00:22:56,591
THEY ARE ABLE TO.

583
00:22:56,591 --> 00:22:57,893
THAT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS THAT

584
00:22:57,893 --> 00:22:59,761
THEY DEAL WITH AND WE DEAL WITH.

585
00:22:59,761 --> 00:23:01,930
WE WANT TO RESPECT THAT THIS IS

586
00:23:01,930 --> 00:23:05,500
THEIR RANGE AND WE ARE LAUNCHING

587
00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:06,768
FROM IT.

588
00:23:06,768 --> 00:23:11,740
>> LAUREN WITH BLOOMBERG.

589
00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:14,509
>> I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN WALK

590
00:23:14,509 --> 00:23:16,044
US THROUGH WHAT HARDWARE YOU

591
00:23:16,044 --> 00:23:18,713
NEED TO BE REPLACING, EXACTLY

592
00:23:18,713 --> 00:23:21,750
WHERE IT IS AND HOW

593
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:23,285
TIME-INTENSIVE THAT WORK WILL

594
00:23:23,285 --> 00:23:24,486
BE.

595
00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:24,820
THANKS.

596
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,955
>> I WILL TAKE A CRACK AT THAT.

597
00:23:26,955 --> 00:23:30,859
RIGHT NOW WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE

598
00:23:30,859 --> 00:23:33,562
8 INCHES QUICK DISCONNECT AND

599
00:23:33,562 --> 00:23:35,397
SIMPLY THE SOFT GOODS, THE SEAL

600
00:23:35,397 --> 00:23:36,832
THAT SURROUNDS IT.

601
00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:39,000
WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE FAULT

602
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,703
TREE ANALYSIS TO FIGURE OUT

603
00:23:41,703 --> 00:23:48,944
EXACTLY IF THERE IS ANYTHING

604
00:23:48,944 --> 00:23:49,711
ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED

605
00:23:49,711 --> 00:23:49,978
FOR.

606
00:23:49,978 --> 00:23:50,812
IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY TO TELL,

607
00:23:50,812 --> 00:23:51,646
AGAIN, AS TO WHAT ELSE MAY BE IN

608
00:23:51,646 --> 00:23:55,283
PLAY, WHAT OTHER WORK MAY BE

609
00:23:55,283 --> 00:23:55,650
NECESSARY.

610
00:23:55,650 --> 00:23:57,486
THERE IS YOUR ENGINEERING REVIEW

611
00:23:57,486 --> 00:23:59,354
BOARD OR TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT

612
00:23:59,354 --> 00:24:01,256
WILL HAPPEN IN THE OFFICE

613
00:24:01,256 --> 00:24:01,656
ENVIRONMENT.

614
00:24:01,656 --> 00:24:04,960
THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND HE DEMATE

615
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,295
THE UMBILICAL, WHETHER IT'S ON

616
00:24:07,295 --> 00:24:10,065
THE PAD OR VEHICLE ASSEMBLY

617
00:24:10,065 --> 00:24:11,466
BUILDING, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE

618
00:24:11,466 --> 00:24:13,602
TEAM BRINGS FORWARD NEXT WEEK.

619
00:24:13,602 --> 00:24:28,116
WE'LL PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND

620
00:24:28,116 --> 00:24:28,850
DECIDE WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE

621
00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:29,618
CAN RESOLVE ON THE DATA WE HAVE

622
00:24:29,618 --> 00:24:30,385
AND WE DON'T NEED TO CHECK THESE

623
00:24:30,385 --> 00:24:31,119
THINGS OR WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO

624
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,653
CHECK THESE THINGS.

625
00:24:31,653 --> 00:24:32,387
AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE SOME

626
00:24:32,387 --> 00:24:33,054
WITNESS INFORMATION WHEN WE

627
00:24:33,054 --> 00:24:33,622
DEMATE THE UMBILICAL.

628
00:24:33,622 --> 00:24:34,756
WE ARE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT DEMATING

629
00:24:34,756 --> 00:24:37,993
THE UMBILICAL, WE DON'T WANT TO

630
00:24:37,993 --> 00:24:40,762
DISTURB WHAT MAY BE CRITICAL

631
00:24:40,762 --> 00:24:42,731
ENGINEERING DATA AS PART OF

632
00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:43,031
THAT.

633
00:24:43,031 --> 00:24:47,035
BEFORE WE PROCEED INTO A SIMPLE

634
00:24:47,035 --> 00:24:48,803
WHAT WE THINK MAY BE A SIMPLE

635
00:24:48,803 --> 00:24:50,972
REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THIS

636
00:24:50,972 --> 00:24:52,707
QUICK DISCONNECT SEAL, WE WANT

637
00:24:52,707 --> 00:24:54,509
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT

638
00:24:54,509 --> 00:24:55,810
OVERLOOKING SOMETHING.

639
00:24:55,810 --> 00:24:57,345
WE WANT TO TAKE TIME TO GO

640
00:24:57,345 --> 00:25:01,516
THROUGH THIS FROM AN ENGINEERING

641
00:25:01,516 --> 00:25:02,150
STANDPOINT, EXCLUDE ANY

642
00:25:02,150 --> 00:25:03,685
POTENTIAL CAUSE BASED ON THE

643
00:25:03,685 --> 00:25:04,319
INFORMATION WE HAD.

644
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:06,788
IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL EXACTLY

645
00:25:06,788 --> 00:25:10,192
WHERE WE MAY NEED TO DO SOME

646
00:25:10,192 --> 00:25:10,492
WORK.

647
00:25:10,492 --> 00:25:14,963
>> THANK YOU.

648
00:25:14,963 --> 00:25:16,531
ERIC BURGER.

649
00:25:16,531 --> 00:25:20,335
>> TWO QUICK ONES ABOUT THE

650
00:25:20,335 --> 00:25:20,702
HYDROGEN.

651
00:25:20,702 --> 00:25:23,505
FIRST OF ALL, MIKE, IF I WAS

652
00:25:23,505 --> 00:25:27,876
STANDING THERE WITH A BUCKET,

653
00:25:27,876 --> 00:25:29,377
HOW QUICKLY WOULD IF FILL THE

654
00:25:29,377 --> 00:25:29,711
BUCKET?

655
00:25:29,711 --> 00:25:33,181
I JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE HOW

656
00:25:33,181 --> 00:25:34,015
LASHING THE LEAK WAS.

657
00:25:34,015 --> 00:25:35,550
FOR SENATOR NELSON, WHEN YOU

658
00:25:35,550 --> 00:25:37,319
WERE WRITING THE AUTHORIZATION

659
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,889
BILL IN 2010, SETTING UP THIS

660
00:25:40,889 --> 00:25:47,963
SPACE LAUNCH SYSTEM, DID YOU

661
00:25:47,963 --> 00:25:48,697
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF

662
00:25:48,697 --> 00:25:49,064
HYDROGEN?

663
00:25:49,064 --> 00:25:52,734
>> I WILL ANSWER THAT RIGHT OUT.

664
00:25:52,734 --> 00:25:55,370
I, ALONG WITH SENATOR

665
00:25:55,370 --> 00:25:58,173
HUTCHINSON, ALONG WITH OUR FOLKS

666
00:25:58,173 --> 00:26:00,942
IN THE WHITE HOUSE, DEFERRED TO

667
00:26:00,942 --> 00:26:03,645
THE PEOPLE WHO BEST KNEW THE

668
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:04,579
SYSTEMS.

669
00:26:04,579 --> 00:26:05,680
SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION

670
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,514
IS NO.

671
00:26:06,514 --> 00:26:10,018
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTION

672
00:26:10,018 --> 00:26:11,052
ABOUT HYDROGEN.

673
00:26:11,052 --> 00:26:17,659
WE DEFERRED TO THE EXPERTS.

674
00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:19,160
>> AND, ERIC, TO ANSWER YOUR

675
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,663
QUESTION ABOUT HOW LARGE IS THE

676
00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:30,939
LEAK, I WOULDN'T USE A BUCKET

677
00:26:30,939 --> 00:26:31,506
ANALOGY ON THAT ONE.

678
00:26:31,506 --> 00:26:32,073
IT'S A CONCENTRATION.

679
00:26:32,073 --> 00:26:33,675
WHEN YOU HAVE A FUEL SOURCE IN

680
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:42,984
ATMOSPHERIC AIR THAT CONTAINS

681
00:26:42,984 --> 00:26:43,685
20% OXYGEN, WHEN YOU MIX THE

682
00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:44,953
TWO, ALL YOU NEED IS AN IGNITION

683
00:26:44,953 --> 00:26:45,587
SOURCE TO CLOSE THE FIRE

684
00:26:45,587 --> 00:26:45,954
TRIANGLE.

685
00:26:45,954 --> 00:26:47,889
WE KNOW WHEN YOU GET ROUGHLY

686
00:26:47,889 --> 00:26:49,658
ABOVE A 4% CONCENTRATION OF

687
00:26:49,658 --> 00:26:54,963
HYDROGEN IN AMBIENT AIR, YOU ARE

688
00:26:54,963 --> 00:27:04,172
AT RISK OF HAVING A FLAMMABILITY

689
00:27:04,172 --> 00:27:04,506
HAZARD.

690
00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:06,875
WE WERE SEEING EXCESS OF TWO,

691
00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:09,611
THREE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE, OR

692
00:27:09,611 --> 00:27:12,447
TWO, THREE TIMES OUR ACCEPTABLE

693
00:27:12,447 --> 00:27:14,716
CONCENTRATION LIMIT.

694
00:27:14,716 --> 00:27:16,418
IT WAS CLEAR WE WEREN'T GOING TO

695
00:27:16,418 --> 00:27:18,887
BE ABLE TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH

696
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,022
IT ON MONDAY IN TERMS OF THE

697
00:27:21,022 --> 00:27:22,490
MANAGING OF THE LEAK.

698
00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:25,060
EVERY TIME WE SAW THE LEAK, IT

699
00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:27,128
WAS A LARGE LEAK THAT

700
00:27:27,128 --> 00:27:32,901
IMMEDIATELY EXCEEDED

701
00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:33,501
ORIFLAMMABLETY LIMITS.

702
00:27:33,501 --> 00:27:35,036
A COUPLE OF TECHNIQUES WERE

703
00:27:35,036 --> 00:27:36,971
TRIED, WE COULDN'T GET THERE

704
00:27:36,971 --> 00:27:40,075
TODAY.

705
00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:42,310
>> CHRIS FROM SPACE.COM.

706
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:45,413
>> THANK YOU.

707
00:27:45,413 --> 00:27:46,948
THIS IS FOR MIKE.

708
00:27:46,948 --> 00:27:48,550
JUST A FOLLOW-UP ABOUT THE

709
00:27:48,550 --> 00:27:51,820
NATURE OF WHAT HAS TO BE

710
00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:52,187
REPLACED.

711
00:27:52,187 --> 00:27:53,088
YOU MENTIONED SOFT GOODS.

712
00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:55,824
IS THAT AS SIMPLE AS A RUBBER

713
00:27:55,824 --> 00:27:57,192
SEAL, SILICONE OR MORE HARDWARE

714
00:27:57,192 --> 00:27:58,626
YOU HAVE TO REPLACE?

715
00:27:58,626 --> 00:28:00,962
AND WHY WOULD YOU NEED AN

716
00:28:00,962 --> 00:28:04,966
ENCLOSURE AROUND IT, IS IT TO

717
00:28:04,966 --> 00:28:06,601
PREVENT CORROSION AROUND THAT

718
00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:06,901
SEAL?

719
00:28:06,901 --> 00:28:09,671
THANK YOU.

720
00:28:09,671 --> 00:28:14,376
>> SO THE QUICK DISCONNECT, IT

721
00:28:14,376 --> 00:28:21,282
IS A METAL POP-IT LIKE DEVICE.

722
00:28:21,282 --> 00:28:24,219
IT HAS A GASKET AROUND IT.

723
00:28:24,219 --> 00:28:28,757
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT GASKET

724
00:28:28,757 --> 00:28:29,124
MATERIAL.

725
00:28:29,124 --> 00:28:31,393
BUT IF WE WERE TO SEE DAMAGE ON

726
00:28:31,393 --> 00:28:33,395
THE QUICK DISCONNECT, THAT WOULD

727
00:28:33,395 --> 00:28:36,631
TELL US WE NEED TO REPLACE THE

728
00:28:36,631 --> 00:28:38,867
HARDWARE.

729
00:28:38,867 --> 00:28:39,834
IF WE SAW FOREIGN OBJECT DEBRIS

730
00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:42,036
THAT WOULD TELL US THAT MAYBE WE

731
00:28:42,036 --> 00:28:43,872
GOT SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON.

732
00:28:43,872 --> 00:28:46,674
OR IF WE JUST SAW A SIMPLE

733
00:28:46,674 --> 00:28:49,344
DAMAGE ON THE GASKET, WE GOT

734
00:28:49,344 --> 00:28:52,847
SPARES WE CAN QUICKLY REMOVE AND

735
00:28:52,847 --> 00:28:53,348
REPLACE THAT.

736
00:28:53,348 --> 00:28:57,485
OUR HISTORY OF OUR OWN TESTING

737
00:28:57,485 --> 00:29:00,054
AT THE LAUNCH EQUIPMENT TEST

738
00:29:00,054 --> 00:29:01,956
FACILITY WHICH IS RIGHT HERE AT

739
00:29:01,956 --> 00:29:04,025
KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, TELLS US

740
00:29:04,025 --> 00:29:06,494
THAT A LEAK OF THIS MAGNITUDE IS

741
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:08,229
TYPICALLY RESOLVED THROUGH A

742
00:29:08,229 --> 00:29:10,698
REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE

743
00:29:10,698 --> 00:29:11,566
SOFT GOODS, THAT SEAL, AND

744
00:29:11,566 --> 00:29:13,334
THAT'S ONE OF OUR LEADING

745
00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:17,372
SUSPECTS RIGHT NOW.

746
00:29:17,372 --> 00:29:18,506
BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH

747
00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:20,208
THE FAULT TREE, WE NEED TO

748
00:29:20,208 --> 00:29:22,777
INSPECT THE HARDWARE, WE NEED TO

749
00:29:22,777 --> 00:29:24,846
SEE WHAT THE HARDWARE IS TELLING

750
00:29:24,846 --> 00:29:25,113
US.

751
00:29:25,113 --> 00:29:26,915
IN TERMS OF EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS

752
00:29:26,915 --> 00:29:29,350
TO BE DONE, IT'S TOO EARLY TO

753
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:29,651
TELL.

754
00:29:29,651 --> 00:29:31,619
I'M SORRY, THERE WAS A SECOND

755
00:29:31,619 --> 00:29:32,754
PART TO YOUR QUESTION.

756
00:29:32,754 --> 00:29:35,123
I DON'T RECALL WHAT THE SECOND

757
00:29:35,123 --> 00:29:35,490
PART WAS.

758
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:37,492
>> ABOUT THE ENCLOSURE.

759
00:29:37,492 --> 00:29:41,729
>> THE ENCLOSURE AFFORDS US THE

760
00:29:41,729 --> 00:29:44,866
ABILITY TO PROVIDE WHAT WE CALL

761
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:49,737
A PURGE AT THAT INTERFACE.

762
00:29:49,737 --> 00:29:50,905
THE PURGE ALLOWS US TO PUSH

763
00:29:50,905 --> 00:29:53,675
NITROGEN IN THERE TO ESSENTIALLY

764
00:29:53,675 --> 00:29:55,710
INERT OR PUSH OUT ANY OXYGEN.

765
00:29:55,710 --> 00:30:00,482
SO IT REDUCES THE LIKELIHOOD OF

766
00:30:00,482 --> 00:30:02,350
FLAMMABILITY HAZARD.

767
00:30:02,350 --> 00:30:05,220
IF WE WERE TO PUMP REGULAR OLD

768
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,721
AIR, IT HAS OXYGEN IN IT.

769
00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:09,657
WE ELIMINATE THAT OXYGEN BY

770
00:30:09,657 --> 00:30:10,959
CREATING AN ENCLOSURE AND

771
00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:13,061
PUTTING NITROGEN IN THERE TO

772
00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:14,529
DISPLACE ANY OXYGEN SUCH THAT IF

773
00:30:14,529 --> 00:30:16,498
THERE IS A HYDROGEN LEAK, YOU

774
00:30:16,498 --> 00:30:19,501
GOT ONE LEG OF THE FIRE TRIANGLE

775
00:30:19,501 --> 00:30:22,237
REMOVED.

776
00:32:49,417 --> 00:32:51,686
THERE WAS A SEQUENCE OF ABOUT A

777
00:32:51,686 --> 00:32:53,588
DOZEN COMMANDS THAT WERE 

778
00:32:53,588 --> 00:32:56,024
REQUIRED AND IT WAS SIMPLY THE 

779
00:32:56,024 --> 00:32:58,660
WRONG VALVE WAS COMMANDED AND IT

780
00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:04,432
WAS IDENTIFIED AFTER ABOUT 3 OR 

781
00:33:04,432 --> 00:33:05,900
4 SECONDS AND IT WAS RECTIFIED.

782
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:07,769
SO THAT'S WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.

783
00:33:07,769 --> 00:33:09,637
WE KNOW WHAT THE PRESSURE 

784
00:33:09,637 --> 00:33:11,839
PROFILE LOOKED LIKE AT THIS 

785
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:13,908
PARTICULAR INTERFACE.

786
00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:18,212
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN THE 

787
00:33:18,212 --> 00:33:21,716
SEQUENCE AND AS WAS MENTIONED BY

788
00:33:21,716 --> 00:33:23,851
OUR LEAD PROJECT ENGINEER 

789
00:33:23,851 --> 00:33:27,121
EARLIER TODAY WE WANT TO BE 

790
00:33:27,121 --> 00:33:28,723
DELIBERATE AND CAREFUL ABOUT 

791
00:33:28,723 --> 00:33:30,625
DRAWING CONCLUSIONS HERE, 

792
00:33:30,625 --> 00:33:32,060
BECAUSE CORRELATION DOES NOT 

793
00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:34,028
EQUAL CAUSE INDICATION.

794
00:33:34,028 --> 00:33:38,933
WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THE 

795
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:41,636
INADVERTENT OVERDRESS AND LOOK 

796
00:33:41,636 --> 00:33:43,538
WHAT THAT MEANT TO THIS 

797
00:33:43,538 --> 00:33:45,106
PARTICULAR INTERFACE AND THEN 

798
00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:48,109
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FAULT TREE 

799
00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:52,413
ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEAK THAT WE

800
00:33:52,413 --> 00:33:52,680
SAW.

801
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,785
IF THERE IS A CONJUNCTION OF 

802
00:33:57,785 --> 00:34:00,388
POTENTIAL CAUSES ON THE FAULT 

803
00:34:00,388 --> 00:34:03,391
TREE, THEN THAT WILL TAKE US ONE

804
00:34:03,391 --> 00:34:08,029
DOWN PATH.

805
00:34:08,029 --> 00:34:12,300
IF THERE IS NO ROOT CAUSE THEN 

806
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,535
THAT WILL TAKE US DOWN AN 

807
00:34:14,535 --> 00:34:15,336
ANOTHER PATH.

808
00:34:15,336 --> 00:34:16,671
IT'S EARLY TO TELL.

809
00:34:16,671 --> 00:34:18,106
WE LOOKED THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF

810
00:34:18,106 --> 00:34:19,340
INFORMATION ALREADY BUT WE GOT 

811
00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:21,209
TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS ONE

812
00:34:21,209 --> 00:34:26,614
AND WE'LL DO IT METHODICALLY.

813
00:34:26,614 --> 00:34:29,684
>> QUESTION: JEFF FAUST WITH 

814
00:34:29,684 --> 00:34:31,085
SPACE NEWS YOU.

815
00:34:31,085 --> 00:34:33,421
IF THE RANG ALLOWS YOU TO EXTEND

816
00:34:33,421 --> 00:34:35,990
THE LIFE AND DO THE REPAIRS ON 

817
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:37,725
THE PAD, ARE THERE ANY OTHER 

818
00:34:37,725 --> 00:34:39,527
FACTORS THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO 

819
00:34:39,527 --> 00:34:42,697
STAY THERE AND NOT HAVE YOU ROLL

820
00:34:42,697 --> 00:34:42,997
BACK?

821
00:34:42,997 --> 00:34:48,436
>> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR STAY 

822
00:34:48,436 --> 00:34:53,775
AT THE PAD BECAUSE A FOR ORION, 

823
00:34:53,775 --> 00:34:56,144
THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS AT HOW 

824
00:34:56,144 --> 00:34:57,512
MUCH TIME THEY CAN SPEND AT THE 

825
00:34:57,512 --> 00:34:58,312
PAD VERSUS THE WINDS.

826
00:34:58,312 --> 00:34:59,947
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK WITHIN THAT 

827
00:34:59,947 --> 00:35:02,383
AND IF WE'RE WITHIN THAT THAT 

828
00:35:02,383 --> 00:35:03,951
WOULD BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT AS

829
00:35:03,951 --> 00:35:05,386
A PLUS SIDE IF WE CAN STAY 

830
00:35:05,386 --> 00:35:08,656
WITHIN THAT ANALYSIS.

831
00:35:08,656 --> 00:35:11,392
BUT ULTIMATE I WE'RE DRIVEN BY 

832
00:35:11,392 --> 00:35:11,659
FPS.

833
00:35:11,659 --> 00:35:12,493
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE 

834
00:35:12,493 --> 00:35:15,329
ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?

835
00:35:15,329 --> 00:35:19,801
>> YEAH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT

836
00:35:19,801 --> 00:35:24,572
WORK EXACTLY WE NEED TO DO.

837
00:35:24,572 --> 00:35:26,374
THERE MAY BE, DEPENDING ON THE 

838
00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:27,975
FALL TREE ANALYSIS AND ANY 

839
00:35:27,975 --> 00:35:31,445
INSPECTION WORK THAT WE DO, IT 

840
00:35:31,445 --> 00:35:32,914
MAY MEAN THAT THE VEHICLE 

841
00:35:32,914 --> 00:35:33,915
ASSEMBLY BUILDING IS THE RIGHT 

842
00:35:33,915 --> 00:35:35,149
PLACE TO DO THIS WORK.

843
00:35:35,149 --> 00:35:37,518
WE ARE MINDFUL WE'RE OUT THERE 

844
00:35:37,518 --> 00:35:39,587
IN THE ELEMENTS WHEN WE'RE AT 

845
00:35:39,587 --> 00:35:40,955
THE PAD.

846
00:35:40,955 --> 00:35:44,225
THAT HAS A COUPLE OF PROS AND 

847
00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:47,028
CONS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

848
00:35:47,028 --> 00:35:49,130
YOU KNOW, THE CONS HAPPEN PRETTY

849
00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:50,631
MUCH EVERY HAPPEN AROUND HERE 

850
00:35:50,631 --> 00:35:52,033
WHEN YOU GET A SHOWER OR A 

851
00:35:52,033 --> 00:35:54,669
THUNDERSTORM ROLLING THROUGH.

852
00:35:54,669 --> 00:35:59,807
AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ISSUES

853
00:35:59,807 --> 00:36:04,779
WITH THAT INTERFACE BECAUSE WE 

854
00:36:04,779 --> 00:36:06,714
DE-MATED IT OUT THERE IN THE 

855
00:36:06,714 --> 00:36:07,148
ENVIRONMENT.

856
00:36:07,148 --> 00:36:08,683
SO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK THROUGH 

857
00:36:08,683 --> 00:36:09,650
ALL THOSE THINGS.

858
00:36:09,650 --> 00:36:11,419
I THINK IT'S AGAIN A LITTLE BIT 

859
00:36:11,419 --> 00:36:13,721
EARLY TO SAY AS TO WHAT THE 

860
00:36:13,721 --> 00:36:18,526
RIGHT PATH FORWARD IS.

861
00:36:18,526 --> 00:36:22,797
FLIGHT DETERMINATION SYSTEM IS 

862
00:36:22,797 --> 00:36:24,866
ONE THING TO CONSIDER AND THE 

863
00:36:24,866 --> 00:36:27,935
RANG HAS BEEN FANTASTIC AS PART 

864
00:36:27,935 --> 00:36:30,838
OF THE GOVERNMENT AND INNER 

865
00:36:30,838 --> 00:36:31,272
AGENCY WORK.

866
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,640
WE DON'T OWN THAT DECISION BUT 

867
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,241
THE RANG DOES.

868
00:36:33,241 --> 00:36:34,775
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH 

869
00:36:34,775 --> 00:36:35,776
THEM AND TALK WITH THEM BEFORE 

870
00:36:35,776 --> 00:36:44,886
ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE.

871
00:36:44,886 --> 00:36:46,687
>> 

872
00:36:46,687 --> 00:36:49,090
>> REPORTER: ARE YOU DOING 

873
00:36:49,090 --> 00:36:51,392
ANOTHER WET DRESS REHEARSAL 

874
00:36:51,392 --> 00:36:53,494
INSTEAD OF DOING ANOTHER LAUNCH 

875
00:36:53,494 --> 00:36:53,961
ATTEMPT.

876
00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:54,829
ADMINISTRATION SAID WE WON'T 

877
00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:56,063
LAUNCH UNTIL IT'S RIGHT.

878
00:36:56,063 --> 00:36:58,599
IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT POINT IS

879
00:36:58,599 --> 00:36:59,567
THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE 

880
00:36:59,567 --> 00:37:02,536
YOU SAY, LET'S GO BACK AND WE'LL

881
00:37:02,536 --> 00:37:03,838
TEST IT'S RIGHT?

882
00:37:03,838 --> 00:37:07,141
>> I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY, 

883
00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,744
WHATEVER THE CONNECTION THAT WE 

884
00:37:09,744 --> 00:37:14,582
ARE TESTING UNDER AMBIENT WILL 

885
00:37:14,582 --> 00:37:16,250
ACT A LOT DIFFERENT.

886
00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:19,387
WE TESTED THIS ONE IN OUR WET 

887
00:37:19,387 --> 00:37:21,455
DRESS AND WE SAW IT MANAGEABLE 

888
00:37:21,455 --> 00:37:22,924
THE OTHER DAY.

889
00:37:22,924 --> 00:37:28,863
SO TO US HYDROGEN IS DIFFICULT 

890
00:37:28,863 --> 00:37:43,077
TO WORK WITH.

891
00:37:43,077 --> 00:37:50,985
WHAT THAT CRYOGENIC TEST IS TBD.

892
00:37:50,985 --> 00:37:54,322
BUT WE TESTED THIS AT A WET 

893
00:37:54,322 --> 00:37:54,622
DRESS.

894
00:37:54,622 --> 00:37:56,724
TO SAY WE SHOULD HAVE DONE 

895
00:37:56,724 --> 00:37:59,293
ANOTHER WET DRESS, THIS WEAN 

896
00:37:59,293 --> 00:37:59,627
SEALED.

897
00:37:59,627 --> 00:38:00,962
I WILL TAKE EVERYBODY BACK.

898
00:38:00,962 --> 00:38:04,765
THE SUMMER OF 1990 WAS THE 

899
00:38:04,765 --> 00:38:07,635
SUMMER OF HYDROGEN WHERE 

900
00:38:07,635 --> 00:38:09,971
SHUTTLEL WAS LAUNCHING FOR 9 

901
00:38:09,971 --> 00:38:12,506
YEARS AND THEY CHASED A WHOLE 

902
00:38:12,506 --> 00:38:15,476
SUMMER CHASING HYDROGEN LEEKS.

903
00:38:15,476 --> 00:38:18,813
WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE DIFFERENT 

904
00:38:18,813 --> 00:38:20,281
HYDROGEN LEEKS.

905
00:38:20,281 --> 00:38:21,282
WHATEVER THE FAULT IS WE'LL HAVE

906
00:38:21,282 --> 00:38:24,285
TO FIND OUT AND WE'LL RUN IT TO 

907
00:38:24,285 --> 00:38:25,686
GROUND AND BUILD THAT CONFIDENCE

908
00:38:25,686 --> 00:38:27,154
TO COME OUT EARLY.

909
00:38:27,154 --> 00:38:29,290
IF THE TEAM SAYS, A WET DRESS IS

910
00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:31,759
THE WAY TO GO, THEN WE NEED TO 

911
00:38:31,759 --> 00:38:32,593
FIGURE IT OUT.

912
00:38:32,593 --> 00:38:37,598
BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE 

913
00:38:37,598 --> 00:38:40,434
TESTED IT AND IT WORKED AND IT 

914
00:38:40,434 --> 00:38:42,203
DIDN'T TODAY.

915
00:38:42,203 --> 00:38:46,107
>> WE KNOW WE DON'T NEED TO DO A

916
00:38:46,107 --> 00:39:00,254
FULL WET DRESS REHEARSAL.

917
00:39:00,254 --> 00:39:01,455
AFTER THIS WORK IS DONE AT THE 

918
00:39:01,455 --> 00:39:07,895
PAD WE DON'T NEED TO DO A 

919
00:39:07,895 --> 00:39:11,899
FULL-UP WET DRESS REHEARSAL IF 

920
00:39:11,899 --> 00:39:13,868
THAT MAKES SENSE.

921
00:39:13,868 --> 00:39:20,741
>> REPORTER: YOU TALKED ABOUT IT

922
00:39:20,741 --> 00:39:22,309
BEING INADVERTENT.

923
00:39:22,309 --> 00:39:24,645
WAS THAT SOFTWARE THAT CAUSED 

924
00:39:24,645 --> 00:39:27,815
THE OVERPRESSURIZATION AND IS IT

925
00:39:27,815 --> 00:39:30,084
SOMETHING YOU'VE DONE SEEN OTHER

926
00:39:30,084 --> 00:39:30,885
TIMES WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT? 

927
00:39:30,885 --> 00:39:35,022
I TAKE IT FROM YOUR EARLIER 

928
00:39:35,022 --> 00:39:38,359
ANSWER YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE 

929
00:39:38,359 --> 00:39:39,493
OVERPRESSURIZATION MAY HAVE 

930
00:39:39,493 --> 00:39:44,098
AFFECTED O-RINGS AND ANYTHING.

931
00:39:44,098 --> 00:39:45,099
>> THE FIRST PART OF THE 

932
00:39:45,099 --> 00:39:48,836
QUESTION THE INADVERTENT COMMAND

933
00:39:48,836 --> 00:39:51,839
AND OVERPRESS, AGAIN, IT'S A 

934
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:54,842
LITTLE BIT EARLY TO TELL EXACTLY

935
00:39:54,842 --> 00:39:55,309
WHAT HAPPENED.

936
00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:56,677
WE'RE STILL WORKING OUR WAY 

937
00:39:56,677 --> 00:39:57,011
THROUGH.

938
00:39:57,011 --> 00:40:05,319
THIS WAS A MANUAL SEQUENCE.

939
00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:06,754
IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE FACT THAT 

940
00:40:06,754 --> 00:40:09,190
WE DIDN'T AUTOMATE THIS 

941
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:11,425
PARTICULAR SEQUENCE THAT COULD 

942
00:40:11,425 --> 00:40:14,128
HAVE BEEN PART OF THE REASON WE 

943
00:40:14,128 --> 00:40:17,364
HAD THE INADVERTENT 

944
00:40:17,364 --> 00:40:18,466
OVERPRESSURE.

945
00:40:18,466 --> 00:40:21,702
THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER 

946
00:40:21,702 --> 00:40:23,337
REASONS WHEN YOU'RE AN OPERATOR 

947
00:40:23,337 --> 00:40:25,673
AND YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH A 

948
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:27,842
COMMAND SEQUENCE THAT COULD HAVE

949
00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:33,080
COME INTO PLAY.

950
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,482
WE'LL LOOK THROUGH THE DATA AND 

951
00:40:34,482 --> 00:40:37,551
WE'LL REASSESS WHY THIS 

952
00:40:37,551 --> 00:40:38,652
INADVERTENT COMMAND HAPPENED.

953
00:40:38,652 --> 00:40:41,755
IN TERMS OF SOFT GOODS IT'S A 

954
00:40:41,755 --> 00:40:47,695
SEAL THAT IS A NON-METALLIC 

955
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:48,295
MATERIAL.

956
00:40:48,295 --> 00:40:50,464
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PARTICULAR 

957
00:40:50,464 --> 00:41:00,708
MATERIAL IT IS.

958
00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:02,109
>> REPORTER: I THINK THIS IS 

959
00:41:02,109 --> 00:41:03,210
PROBABLY FOR MIKE.

960
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:04,879
THERE WAS TIME BETWEEN THE 

961
00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:07,281
RECOMMENDATION TO SCRUB AND WHEN

962
00:41:07,281 --> 00:41:09,150
CHARLEY DECIDED TO CALL IT A 

963
00:41:09,150 --> 00:41:09,750
DAY.

964
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:11,652
WAS THERE ADDITIONAL 

965
00:41:11,652 --> 00:41:12,553
TROUBLESHOOTING THAT WAS BEING 

966
00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:13,387
DISCUSSED AS AN OPTION? 

967
00:41:13,387 --> 00:41:15,589
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS

968
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:17,925
GLEANED FROM THE ACTIVITIES THAT

969
00:41:17,925 --> 00:41:27,701
TOOK PLACE TODAY? 

970
00:41:27,701 --> 00:41:28,469
WAY THE SENSOR ISSUE A FACTOR AT

971
00:41:28,469 --> 00:41:29,203
ALL IN ANY OF THESE SCENARIOS?

972
00:41:29,203 --> 00:41:30,738
>> I'LL START WITH YOUR LAST 

973
00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:31,105
QUESTION.

974
00:41:31,105 --> 00:41:31,772
SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

975
00:41:31,772 --> 00:41:33,741
THE SENSOR ISSUE THAT WE SAW THE

976
00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:39,280
OTHER DAY THAT IS ON THE ENGINE 

977
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,285
SIDE AS PART OF THE ENGINE 

978
00:41:44,285 --> 00:41:45,452
BLEED.

979
00:41:45,452 --> 00:41:47,821
THAT REALLY HASN'T ENTERED INTO 

980
00:41:47,821 --> 00:41:48,789
THE DISCUSSION.

981
00:41:48,789 --> 00:41:51,992
IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL 

982
00:41:51,992 --> 00:41:53,561
TROUBLESHOOTING, THERE WAS A 

983
00:41:53,561 --> 00:41:58,199
PAUSE BEFORE A SCRUB WAS 

984
00:41:58,199 --> 00:41:59,667
DECLARED.

985
00:41:59,667 --> 00:42:01,802
AND WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS COME

986
00:42:01,802 --> 00:42:05,673
FROM OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AS TO 

987
00:42:05,673 --> 00:42:06,574
WHAT A POTENTIAL OPTION SHOULD 

988
00:42:06,574 --> 00:42:11,478
BE AND IT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE A

989
00:42:11,478 --> 00:42:12,279
VIABLE OPTION.

990
00:42:12,279 --> 00:42:13,347
THERE WERE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS 

991
00:42:13,347 --> 00:42:15,649
TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD REALLY 

992
00:42:15,649 --> 00:42:16,684
EXHAUSTED ALL OUR OPTIONS AND 

993
00:42:16,684 --> 00:42:19,320
THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A LITTLE 

994
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,055
BIT OF A PAUSE TOWARDS THE END 

995
00:42:21,055 --> 00:42:24,792
BEFORE THE SCRUB WAS DECLARED.

996
00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:31,065
>> REPORTER: HI MY NAME IS JACOB

997
00:42:31,065 --> 00:42:32,733
AND I'M A STUDENT REPORTER.

998
00:42:32,733 --> 00:42:34,201
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

999
00:42:34,201 --> 00:42:36,937
ONE, SO I KNOW I HEARD EARLIER 

1000
00:42:36,937 --> 00:42:40,608
THAT THE TEMPERATURE AFFECTS HOW

1001
00:42:40,608 --> 00:42:43,010
THE ROCKET LAUNCH GOES IN SOME 

1002
00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:43,410
WAYS.

1003
00:42:43,410 --> 00:42:46,146
AS SMALLER GOES INTO FALL AND 

1004
00:42:46,146 --> 00:42:47,248
WINTER, HOW IS THIS MISSION 

1005
00:42:47,248 --> 00:42:49,650
GOING TO NEED TO BE ADAPTED 

1006
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:51,552
GOING FORWARD THIS FAR INTO THE 

1007
00:42:51,552 --> 00:42:51,919
FUTURE? 

1008
00:42:51,919 --> 00:42:54,088
I KNOW IT'S ONE YOU WON'T WANT 

1009
00:42:54,088 --> 00:42:55,522
TO HEAR RIGHT NOW BUT I'LL ASK 

1010
00:42:55,522 --> 00:42:56,924
IT ANYWAY.

1011
00:42:56,924 --> 00:43:00,327
HOW DOES THIS PUSHBACK THE 

1012
00:43:00,327 --> 00:43:02,229
TIMELINE OF THE ART MISSION 

1013
00:43:02,229 --> 00:43:03,430
PROGRAM AS A WHOLE?

1014
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:06,200
>> WE ARE STILL PLANNING ARTEMIS

1015
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:12,973
2 IN 2024 AND ARTEMIS 3 IN '25.

1016
00:43:12,973 --> 00:43:14,875
>> IN TERMS OF TEMPERATURE 

1017
00:43:14,875 --> 00:43:16,510
EFFECTS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A 

1018
00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:18,646
COMBINATION OF SOLID PROPELLANT 

1019
00:43:18,646 --> 00:43:21,181
IN THE BOOSTERS AND LIQUID 

1020
00:43:21,181 --> 00:43:22,349
PROPEL PENT IN THE CORE STAGE, 

1021
00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:25,719
THE CORE STAGE REALLY HAS NO 

1022
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,755
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT DUE TO 

1023
00:43:27,755 --> 00:43:28,989
TEMPERATURE OTHER THAN WHAT WE 

1024
00:43:28,989 --> 00:43:33,260
CALL THE BOIL OFF, WHICH IS YOU 

1025
00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:34,795
CAUSE THE PROPELLANT TO GO FROM 

1026
00:43:34,795 --> 00:43:36,330
A LIQUID TO A GAS AND YOU'RE NOT

1027
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:39,900
ABLE TO FEED THE ENGINES AS PART

1028
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:40,534
OF THAT.

1029
00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:42,803
THAT IS -- THERE IS ESSENTIALLY 

1030
00:43:42,803 --> 00:43:45,706
NO EFFECT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

1031
00:43:45,706 --> 00:43:48,976
BECAUSE AS WE GO FROM SUMMER 

1032
00:43:48,976 --> 00:43:51,078
INTO THE FALL MONTHS, BECAUSE 

1033
00:43:51,078 --> 00:43:53,480
YOU LOAD THE CRYO AND THEN YOU 

1034
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,183
GO AND YOU ENSURE THAT THE TANK 

1035
00:43:56,183 --> 00:43:59,253
IS FULL BEFORE YOU GO.

1036
00:43:59,253 --> 00:44:03,657
IN TERMS OF THE SOLID PROPULSION

1037
00:44:03,657 --> 00:44:05,526
SYSTEM, THE LOWER THE BULK 

1038
00:44:05,526 --> 00:44:07,127
TEMPERATURE OF THE PROPELLANT 

1039
00:44:07,127 --> 00:44:08,429
THE LOWER PERFORMANCE AND WE 

1040
00:44:08,429 --> 00:44:10,798
KNOW WHAT THE PERFORMANCE 

1041
00:44:10,798 --> 00:44:11,865
CHARACTERISTICS OF THESE 

1042
00:44:11,865 --> 00:44:13,600
PARTICULAR BOOSTERS ARE AND 

1043
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,204
THEY'VE BEEN TESTED THROUGHOUT 

1044
00:44:17,204 --> 00:44:17,971
THE FULL RANGE.

1045
00:44:17,971 --> 00:44:20,507
THE SUMMER MONTHS YOU GET THE 

1046
00:44:20,507 --> 00:44:21,575
MOST PERFORMANCE OUT OF THE 

1047
00:44:21,575 --> 00:44:25,479
SOLIDS AND THE PERFORMANCE WILL 

1048
00:44:25,479 --> 00:44:28,482
BE SLIGHTLY LOWER IN THE FALL.

1049
00:44:28,482 --> 00:44:31,218
BUT THE PERFORMANCE WAS EYE 

1050
00:44:31,218 --> 00:44:33,153
WATER IN TERMS OF MARGIN IN 

1051
00:44:33,153 --> 00:44:36,457
TERMS OF ALTITUDE SO WE'RE NOT 

1052
00:44:36,457 --> 00:44:37,591
CONCERNED WITH PERFORMANCE OF 

1053
00:44:37,591 --> 00:44:40,928
THE ROCKET AT THIS POINT.

1054
00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:52,439
>> REPORTER: GIVEN THESE TWO ON 

1055
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:55,509
FURTHER DELAYS, HOW DOES THIS 

1056
00:44:55,509 --> 00:44:57,478
AFFECT THE PAYLOAD ON BOARD? 

1057
00:44:57,478 --> 00:45:00,381
DO WE NEED BATTERY CHANGES OR 

1058
00:45:00,381 --> 00:45:04,752
HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE CUBESATS?

1059
00:45:04,752 --> 00:45:07,454
>> I THINK WE ANSWERED THE CUBE 

1060
00:45:07,454 --> 00:45:08,922
STAT QUESTION EARLIER.

1061
00:45:08,922 --> 00:45:11,091
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE LIMITED 

1062
00:45:11,091 --> 00:45:15,629
BATTERY LIFE ON THE CUBE  

1063
00:45:15,629 --> 00:45:17,831
CUBESATS AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT 

1064
00:45:17,831 --> 00:45:21,735
THE DECAY RATES ARE.

1065
00:45:21,735 --> 00:45:27,841
THE CUSTOMERS OF THE CUBE 

1066
00:45:27,841 --> 00:45:32,579
SATURDAYS ARE AWARE.

1067
00:45:32,579 --> 00:45:34,114
WE HAVE RADIATION MONITORS AND A

1068
00:45:34,114 --> 00:45:36,216
NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS AND WE 

1069
00:45:36,216 --> 00:45:38,419
KNOW WHAT THE INSTALL OR 

1070
00:45:38,419 --> 00:45:39,486
BASELINE CONFIGURATION WAS.

1071
00:45:39,486 --> 00:45:42,055
OBVIOUSLY THE LONGER YOU SIT OUT

1072
00:45:42,055 --> 00:45:43,557
THERE ON PAD THE MORE RADIATION 

1073
00:45:43,557 --> 00:45:45,459
SOME OF THESE SENSORS WILL 

1074
00:45:45,459 --> 00:45:47,394
ACCRUE BUT WE ALSO HAVE WITNESS 

1075
00:45:47,394 --> 00:45:49,696
SENSORS IN THERE TO HELP US 

1076
00:45:49,696 --> 00:45:52,666
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ACCUMULATE 

1077
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:54,435
DURING THE SPACEFLIGHT PORTION 

1078
00:45:54,435 --> 00:45:55,702
AS OPPOSED TO HERE ON THE 

1079
00:45:55,702 --> 00:45:56,036
GROUND.

1080
00:45:56,036 --> 00:45:57,471
THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS

1081
00:45:57,471 --> 00:46:01,241
THAT WE PLAN AHEAD AND TRACK AND

1082
00:46:01,241 --> 00:46:02,843
AT THIS POINT WE'RE REALLY 

1083
00:46:02,843 --> 00:46:05,345
FOCUSSED ON GETTING THE VEHICLE 

1084
00:46:05,345 --> 00:46:08,148
READY AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE

1085
00:46:08,148 --> 00:46:10,818
POTENTIAL IMPACTS ARE TO THE 

1086
00:46:10,818 --> 00:46:13,587
PAYLOADS AND THE CUBESATS 

1087
00:46:13,587 --> 00:46:16,089
WHETHER THEY'RE IN ORION OR ON 

1088
00:46:16,089 --> 00:46:19,359
THE ROCKET AS PART OF THE 10 

1089
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:20,160
CUBESATS.

1090
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:26,800
YEAH, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT

1091
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,335
THAT.

1092
00:46:28,335 --> 00:46:31,572
>> REPORTER: MY QUESTION IS FOR 

1093
00:46:31,572 --> 00:46:33,040
THE SENATOR.

1094
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,108
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT 

1095
00:46:35,108 --> 00:46:37,911
GOING UNTIL YOU'RE READY AND IT 

1096
00:46:37,911 --> 00:46:39,279
IS RIGHT.

1097
00:46:39,279 --> 00:46:42,049
WE KNOW THAT SCRUBS ARE A VERY 

1098
00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:44,451
NATURAL PART OF ALL OF THE SPACE

1099
00:46:44,451 --> 00:46:44,818
MISSIONS.

1100
00:46:44,818 --> 00:46:47,120
THAT SAID, I GOT TO BELIEVE THAT

1101
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,389
THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF 

1102
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:49,857
DISAPPOINTMENT.

1103
00:46:49,857 --> 00:46:52,159
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE DEMEANOR 

1104
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:54,261
INSIDE AND SPECIFICALLY HOW IS 

1105
00:46:54,261 --> 00:46:55,629
CHARLIE BLACKWELL THOMPSON AND 

1106
00:46:55,629 --> 00:46:58,298
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HER TODAY 

1107
00:46:58,298 --> 00:47:00,267
AFTER THE DECISION TO SCRUB?

1108
00:47:00,267 --> 00:47:03,637
>> THE DEMEANOR IN THE LCC IS 

1109
00:47:03,637 --> 00:47:05,506
VERY PROFESSIONAL.

1110
00:47:05,506 --> 00:47:08,175
THEY DO THEIR JOB.

1111
00:47:08,175 --> 00:47:12,045
NATURALLY ALL OF US, NO MORE 

1112
00:47:12,045 --> 00:47:16,850
THAN ALL OF US INCLUDING THE LCC

1113
00:47:16,850 --> 00:47:22,155
WANTED IT GO  TO GO TODAY.

1114
00:47:22,155 --> 00:47:24,825
BUT THESE GUYS THAT ARE THE 

1115
00:47:24,825 --> 00:47:40,007
PROFESSIONALS KNOW WE DON'T GO 

1116
00:47:40,007 --> 00:47:41,208
UNTIL IT'S A READY 

1117
00:47:41,208 --> 00:47:43,810
>> REPORTER: HOW'S CHARLIE 

1118
00:47:43,810 --> 00:47:44,144
DOING? 

1119
00:47:44,144 --> 00:47:46,280
ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU CAN 

1120
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:46,580
SHARE?

1121
00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:49,349
>> I WILL SAY THIS BEFORE MIKE 

1122
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:53,287
ANSWERS THAT THIS TEAM IS VERY 

1123
00:47:53,287 --> 00:47:56,023
AWARE OF POTENTIAL FATIGUE AND 

1124
00:47:56,023 --> 00:48:01,028
THEREFORE THEY GAVE SUFFICIENT 

1125
00:48:01,028 --> 00:48:03,297
TIME OFF FOR THE TEAM YESTERDAY 

1126
00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:09,369
AFTER THE M M T WHICH I I THINK 

1127
00:48:09,369 --> 00:48:11,171
OCCURRED 2 DAYS AGO, THEY GAVE 

1128
00:48:11,171 --> 00:48:12,372
EVERYBODY THE DAY OFF SO THEY 

1129
00:48:12,372 --> 00:48:16,143
COULD REGROUP AND M T WHICH I I 

1130
00:48:16,143 --> 00:48:16,877
OCCURRED 2 DAYS AGO, THEY GAVE 

1131
00:48:16,877 --> 00:48:17,611
EVERYBODY THE DAY OFF SO THEY 

1132
00:48:17,611 --> 00:48:18,445
COULD REGROUP AND T WHICH I I T 

1133
00:48:18,445 --> 00:48:19,179
OCCURRED 2 DAYS AGO, THEY GAVE 

1134
00:48:19,179 --> 00:48:19,880
EVERYBODY THE DAY OFF SO THEY 

1135
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,480
COULD REGROUP AND REST.

1136
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,248
AND THAT'S PART OF THE LESSONS 

1137
00:48:21,248 --> 00:48:22,082
THAT CAME OUT OF THE CHALLENGER 

1138
00:48:22,082 --> 00:48:22,416
REPORT.

1139
00:48:22,416 --> 00:48:26,453
FATIGUE WAS A FACTOR THERE.

1140
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:28,655
>> IN TERMS OF THE FIRING ROOM 

1141
00:48:28,655 --> 00:48:32,426
AND CHARLIE IN PARTICULAR, ONE 

1142
00:48:32,426 --> 00:48:35,762
OF THE THINGS THAT I 

1143
00:48:35,762 --> 00:48:38,298
PARTICULARLY ENJOY ABOUT THE 

1144
00:48:38,298 --> 00:48:40,367
AGENCY, YOU SURROUND YOURSELF 

1145
00:48:40,367 --> 00:48:42,869
WITH AMAZINGLY CAPABLE BUILDING 

1146
00:48:42,869 --> 00:48:44,805
AND AMAZING LEADERSHIP AND 

1147
00:48:44,805 --> 00:48:47,374
CHARLIE IS ONE OF THOSE AMAZING 

1148
00:48:47,374 --> 00:48:48,342
LEADERS WE HAVE IN THE AGENCY.

1149
00:48:48,342 --> 00:48:49,943
WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HER ABOUT 

1150
00:48:49,943 --> 00:48:51,812
THE SCRUB DECISION SHE WAS 

1151
00:48:51,812 --> 00:48:53,880
FOCUSSED, HEAD IN THE GAME.

1152
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,752
SHE WAS FOCUSSED ON THE 

1153
00:48:58,752 --> 00:49:00,654
OPERATION AND THE FLIGHT 

1154
00:49:00,654 --> 00:49:04,391
HARDWARE AND SAVING THE VEHICLE 

1155
00:49:04,391 --> 00:49:08,428
AND ENSURING THE TEAM HAD WHAT 

1156
00:49:08,428 --> 00:49:10,297
THEY NEEDED TO GET THROUGH THE 

1157
00:49:10,297 --> 00:49:13,100
REMAINING OPERATION.

1158
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,968
THAT'S KIND OF NATURAL WHEN YOU 

1159
00:49:14,968 --> 00:49:17,971
COME FROM THE OPERATIONS REALM.

1160
00:49:17,971 --> 00:49:20,073
THERE'S DEFINITELY TIME TO 

1161
00:49:20,073 --> 00:49:22,943
REFLECT ON THAT AFTER YOU COME 

1162
00:49:22,943 --> 00:49:25,312
OUT OF THE FIRING ROOM ON DRIVE 

1163
00:49:25,312 --> 00:49:27,047
HOME OR ONCE YOU'RE HOME.

1164
00:49:27,047 --> 00:49:28,849
BUT THAT WAS NEITHER THE TIME OR

1165
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:30,984
PLACE AND SHE DIDN'T SHOW ANY 

1166
00:49:30,984 --> 00:49:33,086
INKLING SHE WAS FOCUSSED ON 

1167
00:49:33,086 --> 00:49:34,121
ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE RIGHT 

1168
00:49:34,121 --> 00:49:35,822
DECISIONS FOR HER TEAM AND FOR 

1169
00:49:35,822 --> 00:49:50,470
THE SPACECRAFT AND FOR THE 

1170
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:51,438
ROCKET.

1171
00:49:51,438 --> 00:49:53,340
I'M STILL UNCLEAR ABOUT THE 

1172
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:54,541
DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT 

1173
00:49:54,541 --> 00:49:56,543
YOU'RE GOING TO ROLL BACK.

1174
00:49:56,543 --> 00:49:58,512
JIM, I HEARD YOU SAY YOU MUST 

1175
00:49:58,512 --> 00:50:00,681
ROLL BACK BECAUSE OF THE FTS 

1176
00:50:00,681 --> 00:50:01,048
BATTERIES.

1177
00:50:01,048 --> 00:50:03,517
MIKE, I HEARD YOU SAY IF YOU 

1178
00:50:03,517 --> 00:50:07,287
ROLL BACK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO 

1179
00:50:07,287 --> 00:50:08,455
RECHARGE THE CUBESATS.

1180
00:50:08,455 --> 00:50:09,923
IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE RANG 

1181
00:50:09,923 --> 00:50:12,125
AND ASK THEM TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER

1182
00:50:12,125 --> 00:50:13,860
WAIVER FOR THE STS IT'S NOT JUST

1183
00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:21,802
A COUPLE DAYS BUT SEVERAL WEEKS.

1184
00:50:21,802 --> 00:50:24,705
CAN YOU CONDENSE IT ALL AND SAY 

1185
00:50:24,705 --> 00:50:25,972
ARE YOU ROLLING BACK OR NOT? 

1186
00:50:25,972 --> 00:50:31,611
CAN YOU MAKE AN A DECISION AND 

1187
00:50:31,611 --> 00:50:36,116
IS THE FTS THE ONLY THING YOU --

1188
00:50:36,116 --> 00:50:44,057
>> WE DON'T HAVE AN FTS AND 

1189
00:50:44,057 --> 00:50:44,925
UNTILING WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO

1190
00:50:44,925 --> 00:50:45,726
ROLL BACK IN ORDER TO SATISFY 

1191
00:50:45,726 --> 00:50:57,904
THE RANGE REQUIREMENT.

1192
00:50:57,904 --> 00:50:59,573
WE'LL WORK WITH THE RANGE TO TRY

1193
00:50:59,573 --> 00:50:59,973
TO GET THAT.

1194
00:50:59,973 --> 00:51:00,707
WE HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT THEY'RE 

1195
00:51:00,707 --> 00:51:01,241
WILLING TO GIVE US.

1196
00:51:01,241 --> 00:51:02,008
THAT NEGOTIATION HASN'T HAPPENED

1197
00:51:02,008 --> 00:51:03,176
SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED WE 

1198
00:51:03,176 --> 00:51:04,611
HAVE TO ROLL BACK BECAUSE WE 

1199
00:51:04,611 --> 00:51:06,079
HAVE TO SATISFY THAT 

1200
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:06,613
REQUIREMENT.

1201
00:51:06,613 --> 00:51:08,115
THAT'S WHERE I THINK MIKE'S IF 

1202
00:51:08,115 --> 00:51:09,382
STATEMENT COMES FROM.

1203
00:51:09,382 --> 00:51:11,218
BECAUSE THAT IS A POSSIBILITY 

1204
00:51:11,218 --> 00:51:13,053
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY.

1205
00:51:13,053 --> 00:51:15,122
>> I'LL JUST BE UP FRONT WITH 

1206
00:51:15,122 --> 00:51:15,422
YOU.

1207
00:51:15,422 --> 00:51:17,591
I DON'T ALWAYS PICK THE BEST 

1208
00:51:17,591 --> 00:51:17,924
WORDS.

1209
00:51:17,924 --> 00:51:18,391
[LAUGHTER] 

1210
00:51:18,391 --> 00:51:21,762
>> AND I COULD HAVE CHOSEN A 

1211
00:51:21,762 --> 00:51:27,334
BETTER PHRASE OR WORD IN THAT 

1212
00:51:27,334 --> 00:51:27,634
CASE.

1213
00:51:27,634 --> 00:51:28,235
AND JIM IS RIGHT.

1214
00:51:28,235 --> 00:51:30,604
IT IS NOT OUR DECISION.

1215
00:51:30,604 --> 00:51:33,907
IT IS THE RANGE'S DECISION AND 

1216
00:51:33,907 --> 00:51:34,674
THEY'RE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR

1217
00:51:34,674 --> 00:51:36,176
PUBLIC SAFETY.

1218
00:51:36,176 --> 00:51:39,012
WHEN WE ROLL BACK, UNLESS WE GET

1219
00:51:39,012 --> 00:51:42,916
A WAIVER, IT IS A ROLL BACK 

1220
00:51:42,916 --> 00:51:43,283
SCENARIO.

1221
00:51:43,283 --> 00:51:45,118
I SAID "IF" AND I APOLOGIZE FOR 

1222
00:51:45,118 --> 00:51:45,719
THAT.

1223
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,921
I PROBABLY COULD HAVE CHOSEN 

1224
00:51:47,921 --> 00:51:48,488
BETTER WORDS.

1225
00:51:48,488 --> 00:51:50,423
IF THAT'S THE HARDEST THING I 

1226
00:51:50,423 --> 00:51:53,093
HAD TO DEAL WITH TODAY THEN I'M 

1227
00:51:53,093 --> 00:52:00,867
HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

1228
00:52:00,867 --> 00:52:04,037
>> REPORTER: MY QUESTION CAN BE 

1229
00:52:04,037 --> 00:52:05,505
FOR ANY OR ALL OF YOU ALL.

1230
00:52:05,505 --> 00:52:09,042
CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT ACTUAL 

1231
00:52:09,042 --> 00:52:11,344
COSTS OF TWO BACK-TO-BACK 

1232
00:52:11,344 --> 00:52:11,678
SCRUBS? 

1233
00:52:11,678 --> 00:52:13,647
AND DO YOU FEEL THERE'S A COST 

1234
00:52:13,647 --> 00:52:15,215
TO PUBLIC PERCEPTION? 

1235
00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:16,416
SHOULD THERE WAS SO MUCH 

1236
00:52:16,416 --> 00:52:19,219
BUILD-UP TO THIS LAUNCH AND SO 

1237
00:52:19,219 --> 00:52:22,255
MANY PEOPLE CAME TO FLORIDA 

1238
00:52:22,255 --> 00:52:27,060
HOPING TO SEE A MOON ROCKET IS 

1239
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:28,328
THERE SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING 

1240
00:52:28,328 --> 00:52:30,831
AT NOW REGARDING THE PUBLIC?

1241
00:52:30,831 --> 00:52:32,966
>> YOU ALL TALK ABOUT THE 

1242
00:52:32,966 --> 00:52:37,604
BACK-TO-BACK COST AND I'LL TALK 

1243
00:52:37,604 --> 00:52:38,205
ABOUT THE PERCEPTION.

1244
00:52:38,205 --> 00:52:46,646
[LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW SPACE IS THE

1245
00:52:46,646 --> 00:52:46,947
PLACE.

1246
00:52:46,947 --> 00:52:51,418
EVERYBODY IS REALLY INTERESTED 

1247
00:52:51,418 --> 00:52:52,552
IN THIS MISSION AND GOING BACK 

1248
00:52:52,552 --> 00:52:54,688
TO MARS AND GETTING READY TO GO 

1249
00:52:54,688 --> 00:52:55,789
BACK TO THE MOON AND GETTING 

1250
00:52:55,789 --> 00:52:59,993
READY TO GO TO MARS.

1251
00:52:59,993 --> 00:53:04,364
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID 

1252
00:53:04,364 --> 00:53:10,437
EARLY ON WE TRIED TO STRESS THAT

1253
00:53:10,437 --> 00:53:12,505
THIS IS A TEST AND A TEST HAS 

1254
00:53:12,505 --> 00:53:17,677
CERTAIN RISKS.

1255
00:53:17,677 --> 00:53:19,179
WE POUNDED THAT IN EVERY PUBLIC 

1256
00:53:19,179 --> 00:53:26,186
COMMENT THAT WE HAD.

1257
00:53:26,186 --> 00:53:27,254
THIS ORDER TO GET EXPECTATIONS 

1258
00:53:27,254 --> 00:53:29,422
IN ALIGNMENT WITH REALITY AND 

1259
00:53:29,422 --> 00:53:31,625
YET HUMAN NATURE IS WHAT YOU 

1260
00:53:31,625 --> 00:53:39,165
KNOW IT IS.

1261
00:53:39,165 --> 00:53:40,500
YOU SAW CROWDS OUT HERE ON 

1262
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:42,135
MONDAY MORNING.

1263
00:53:42,135 --> 00:53:46,473
A LOT LESS CROWDS TODAY.

1264
00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:49,242
HOWEVER THE NATURE OF HUMANS IS 

1265
00:53:49,242 --> 00:54:03,323
THAT WE WANT DESPITE ALL THAT 

1266
00:54:03,323 --> 00:54:05,659
THAT'S WHY THESE GUYS ARE SUCH 

1267
00:54:05,659 --> 00:54:07,661
CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS.

1268
00:54:07,661 --> 00:54:08,962
THEY DO IT BY THE BOOK AND WHEN 

1269
00:54:08,962 --> 00:54:09,663
IT'S READY.

1270
00:54:09,663 --> 00:54:11,331
>> AS FAR AS COSTS, I CAN'T GIVE

1271
00:54:11,331 --> 00:54:12,032
YOU A NUMBER.

1272
00:54:12,032 --> 00:54:14,301
I CAN TELL YOU THE COST -- THERE

1273
00:54:14,301 --> 00:54:16,937
ARE COMMODITIES THAT WE USE WITH

1274
00:54:16,937 --> 00:54:18,638
OXYGEN AND HYDROGEN.

1275
00:54:18,638 --> 00:54:20,273
WE TRY TO RECOVER THOSE AS WE 

1276
00:54:20,273 --> 00:54:22,642
DRAIN BACK BUT A LOT OF THOSE 

1277
00:54:22,642 --> 00:54:25,045
BOIL OFF SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM

1278
00:54:25,045 --> 00:54:25,979
TOP OFF.

1279
00:54:25,979 --> 00:54:27,747
I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY 

1280
00:54:27,747 --> 00:54:29,816
TANKERS THAT WE HAD AFTER 

1281
00:54:29,816 --> 00:54:30,317
MONDAY'S ATTEMPT.

1282
00:54:30,317 --> 00:54:36,156
I THINK WE HAD 5 OR 6 WAVES AS I

1283
00:54:36,156 --> 00:54:37,590
REMEMBER.

1284
00:54:37,590 --> 00:54:39,793
THE EXACT COST OF THE HYDROGEN I

1285
00:54:39,793 --> 00:54:42,562
CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY

1286
00:54:42,562 --> 00:54:43,096
HEAD.

1287
00:54:43,096 --> 00:54:45,732
I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT OFF THE 

1288
00:54:45,732 --> 00:54:49,869
TOP OF MY HEAD.

1289
00:54:49,869 --> 00:54:52,339
I GO TO COMMODITIES FIRST AND WE

1290
00:54:52,339 --> 00:54:54,808
SCHEDULE UP RESOURCES TO PROVIDE

1291
00:54:54,808 --> 00:54:58,211
COMMON TRACKING FOR US.

1292
00:54:58,211 --> 00:55:04,317
AND THEN THE LABOR OF THE FOLKS 

1293
00:55:04,317 --> 00:55:06,252
HERE.  SO SOME OF THE ASSETS 

1294
00:55:06,252 --> 00:55:07,921
THAT AREN'T OURS THAT ARE 

1295
00:55:07,921 --> 00:55:10,623
OUTSIDE OF NASA'S CONTROL AND 

1296
00:55:10,623 --> 00:55:13,827
LIQUID OXYGEN AND HYDROGEN.

1297
00:55:13,827 --> 00:55:15,395
>> THE COST OF TWO SCRUBS IS A 

1298
00:55:15,395 --> 00:55:28,508
LOT LESS THAN A FAILURE.

1299
00:55:28,508 --> 00:55:31,845
>> REPORTER: THIS IS FOR THE 

1300
00:55:31,845 --> 00:55:32,312
ADMINISTRATOR.

1301
00:55:32,312 --> 00:55:36,483
WE ARE COMING UP WITH THE 60 

1302
00:55:36,483 --> 00:55:38,451
ANNIVERSARY WITH PRESIDENT 

1303
00:55:38,451 --> 00:55:40,153
KENNEDY'S SPEECH WHERE HE 

1304
00:55:40,153 --> 00:55:41,554
DEDECLARED WE CHOOSE TO GO TO 

1305
00:55:41,554 --> 00:55:42,288
THE MOON.

1306
00:55:42,288 --> 00:55:44,090
NEARLY 60 YEARS LATER HOW DO YOU

1307
00:55:44,090 --> 00:55:46,659
REFLECT ON THE UPCOMING 

1308
00:55:46,659 --> 00:55:47,427
ANNIVERSARY AND THE CHALLENGES 

1309
00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:51,131
THAT WE FACE AS WE CHOOSE ONCE 

1310
00:55:51,131 --> 00:55:54,401
AGAIN TO GO TO THE MOON?

1311
00:55:54,401 --> 00:55:56,936
>> AS A MATTER OF FACT ON THE 

1312
00:55:56,936 --> 00:55:59,506
60TH ANNIVERSARY I WILL BE IN 

1313
00:55:59,506 --> 00:56:05,979
RICE STADIUM THERE WILL BE 4,000

1314
00:56:05,979 --> 00:56:08,381
PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WILL

1315
00:56:08,381 --> 00:56:12,685
BE IN THE STADIUM JUST AS IT WAS

1316
00:56:12,685 --> 00:56:17,323
60 YEARS AGO WITH PUBLIC SCHOOL 

1317
00:56:17,323 --> 00:56:18,958
STUDENTS.

1318
00:56:18,958 --> 00:56:20,894
WHAT PRESIDENT KENNEDY SAID WAS,

1319
00:56:20,894 --> 00:56:23,863
WE CHOOSE TO GO TO THE MOON AND 

1320
00:56:23,863 --> 00:56:28,001
DO OTHER THINGS NOT BECAUSE IT'S

1321
00:56:28,001 --> 00:56:28,301
EASY.

1322
00:56:28,301 --> 00:56:35,608
BUT BECAUSE IT'S HARD.

1323
00:56:35,608 --> 00:56:38,378
THIS IS A WHOLE NEW VEHICLE AND 

1324
00:56:38,378 --> 00:56:39,245
TECHNOLOGY AND PURPOSE OF GOING 

1325
00:56:39,245 --> 00:56:40,947
BACK TO THE MOON AND PREPARATION

1326
00:56:40,947 --> 00:56:42,916
TO GO TO MARS.

1327
00:56:42,916 --> 00:56:55,995
AND YES, IT'S HARD.

1328
00:56:55,995 --> 00:56:58,298
>> REPORTER: YOU TALKED ABOUT 

1329
00:56:58,298 --> 00:56:59,165
NOT LAUNCHING UNTIL YOU'RE 

1330
00:56:59,165 --> 00:56:59,499
READY.

1331
00:56:59,499 --> 00:57:02,135
HAVE YOU FELT ANY PRESSURE FROM 

1332
00:57:02,135 --> 00:57:03,736
ANYWHERE WITHIN NASA OR FROM THE

1333
00:57:03,736 --> 00:57:15,115
WHITE HOUSE OR ANYWHERE IN 

1334
00:57:15,115 --> 00:57:15,482
CONGRESS?

1335
00:57:15,482 --> 00:57:17,083
>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY 

1336
00:57:17,083 --> 00:57:19,319
STANDPOINT, NO, AND IF I KNEW 

1337
00:57:19,319 --> 00:57:25,925
ABOUT IT I WOULD TRY TO STOP IT.

1338
00:57:25,925 --> 00:57:36,536
BUT WE HAVE FELT NO PRESSURE 

1339
00:57:36,536 --> 00:57:37,837
WHATSOEVER.

1340
00:57:37,837 --> 00:57:51,551
AS TO WHAT ADMINISTRATOR NELSON 

1341
00:57:51,551 --> 00:57:56,055
SAID, WE'RE NOT FEELING ANY 

1342
00:57:56,055 --> 00:57:56,456
EXTERNALLY.

1343
00:57:56,456 --> 00:57:59,759
>> TIME FOR ONE MORE QUESTION.

1344
00:57:59,759 --> 00:58:02,362
>> REPORTER: HE TALKED A FEW 

1345
00:58:02,362 --> 00:58:03,730
QUESTIONS BACK ABOUT THE 

1346
00:58:03,730 --> 00:58:05,899
POSSIBILITY TO DO CRYO LOADING, 

1347
00:58:05,899 --> 00:58:07,267
TO TEST THAT SEAL.

1348
00:58:07,267 --> 00:58:10,069
I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH CRYOS 

1349
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:12,505
WOULD YOU HAVE TO LOAD TO TAKE 

1350
00:58:12,505 --> 00:58:15,074
THE SEAL IF IT'S HEATED AND WHAT

1351
00:58:15,074 --> 00:58:18,344
WOULD BE THE TURN AROUND FOR A 

1352
00:58:18,344 --> 00:58:18,678
LAUNCH?

1353
00:58:18,678 --> 00:58:19,979
>> IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH CRYO WE 

1354
00:58:19,979 --> 00:58:22,815
WOULD HAVE TO LOAD WHAT WE WOULD

1355
00:58:22,815 --> 00:58:25,585
NEED TO DO IS GET THROUGH THE 

1356
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:27,153
CHILL DOWN SLOW FILL AND INTO 

1357
00:58:27,153 --> 00:58:28,755
THE FAST FILL AND TYPICALLY WHEN

1358
00:58:28,755 --> 00:58:31,191
YOU GET IN THE FAST FILL IF 

1359
00:58:31,191 --> 00:58:32,292
THERE'S A LEAK THAT'S WHERE YOU 

1360
00:58:32,292 --> 00:58:32,692
SEE IT.

1361
00:58:32,692 --> 00:58:34,727
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST 

1362
00:58:34,727 --> 00:58:36,029
PRESSURE AND FLOW RATE AND YOU 

1363
00:58:36,029 --> 00:58:38,598
DON'T NEED THE WHOLE TANK TO DO 

1364
00:58:38,598 --> 00:58:39,732
THAT.

1365
00:58:39,732 --> 00:58:42,669
IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE 5 PLUS 

1366
00:58:42,669 --> 00:58:43,002
PERCENT.

1367
00:58:43,002 --> 00:58:44,804
IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF

1368
00:58:44,804 --> 00:58:46,005
THE LIQUID HYDROGEN TANK.

1369
00:58:46,005 --> 00:58:48,174
AND I'M SORRY WHAT WAS THE 

1370
00:58:48,174 --> 00:58:49,342
SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION? 

1371
00:58:49,342 --> 00:58:50,977
I'VE BEEN UP SINCE MIDNIGHT?

1372
00:58:50,977 --> 00:58:52,178
>> REPORTER: HOW LONG COULD YOU 

1373
00:58:52,178 --> 00:58:53,746
TURN AROUND FOR A LAUNCH? 

1374
00:58:53,746 --> 00:58:57,016
WOULD IT BE 2 OR 3 DAYS LATER?

1375
00:58:57,016 --> 00:59:02,722
>> AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON A WHOLE 

1376
00:59:02,722 --> 00:59:03,223
HOST OF THINGS.

1377
00:59:03,223 --> 00:59:05,158
BUT YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF 

1378
00:59:05,158 --> 00:59:07,727
REPLENISHING THE COMMODITIES AND

1379
00:59:07,727 --> 00:59:10,296
SETTING UP FOR A SUBSEQUENT 

1380
00:59:10,296 --> 00:59:11,864
ATTEMPT, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN 

1381
00:59:11,864 --> 00:59:15,468
TURN AROUND EITHER 42 -- I'M 

1382
00:59:15,468 --> 00:59:18,037
SORRY 42 OR 78 HOURS SIMPLY 

1383
00:59:18,037 --> 00:59:22,041
BASED ON COMMODITY AND 

1384
00:59:22,041 --> 00:59:23,843
REPLENISHMENT.

1385
00:59:23,843 --> 00:59:24,510
IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL 

1386
00:59:24,510 --> 00:59:25,245
ENGINEERING INVESTIGATIONS OR 

1387
00:59:25,245 --> 00:59:26,879
ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE NEEDED 

1388
00:59:26,879 --> 00:59:28,915
TO DO, FOLLOWING A CRYO TEST AT 

1389
00:59:28,915 --> 00:59:31,150
THAT INTERFACE, IT IS SOMETHING 

1390
00:59:31,150 --> 00:59:33,553
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FACTORED 

1391
00:59:33,553 --> 00:59:34,220
IN THE PLAN.

1392
00:59:34,220 --> 00:59:36,522
WE'LL UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER 

1393
00:59:36,522 --> 00:59:40,460
NEXT WEEK.

1394
00:59:40,460 --> 00:59:41,527
IN TERMS OF THE FIRST PART OF 

1395
00:59:41,527 --> 00:59:47,333
THE QUESTION IT'S NOT 

1396
00:59:47,333 --> 00:59:47,734
SIGNIFICANT.

1397
00:59:47,734 --> 00:59:48,835
>> AS WE SAID EARLIER WE'LL HAVE

1398
00:59:48,835 --> 00:59:51,838
AN UPDATE FOR YOU NEXT WEEK ON 

1399
00:59:51,838 --> 00:59:54,374
THE PATH FORWARD.

1400
00:59:54,374 --> 00:59:55,975
AS ALWAYS TUNE INTO NASA TV AND 

1401
00:59:55,975 --> 00:59:56,909
OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS TO 

1402
00:59:56,909 --> 00:59:58,278
KEEP UP TO DATE ON LATEST.

1403
00:59:58,278 --> 00:59:59,612
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US AND

1404
00:59:59,612 --> 01:00:03,983
HAVE A GREAT LABOR DAY.
