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>> HELLO, AND WELCOME TO 

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NASA'S KENNEDY SPACE CENTER.

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LIVE VIEW 

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OF UNITED LAUNCH ALLIANCE 

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ATLAS V ROCKET CARRYING LUCY.

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THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN TODAY 

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FOR TODAY'S SCIENCE BRIEFING 

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TO DISCUSS NASA'S LUCY 

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MISSION, THE AGENCY'S FIRST TO

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THE TROJAN ASTEROIDS.

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I'M ALANA JOHNSON WITH NASA 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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WE ARE JUST TWO DAYS AWAY FROM

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SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN MANY 

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YEARS IN THE MAKING.

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NASA IS SENDING ITS LUCY 

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SPACECRAFT INTO THE SKY WITH 

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DIAMONDS, LITERALLY.

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TODAY I'M JOINED BY A PANEL OF

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EXPERTS TO GIVE YOU A BROAD 

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OVERVIEW OF LUCY'S SCIENCE.

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FIRST WE HAVE ADRIANNA OCAMPO.

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LUCY PROGRAM EXECUTIVE FROM 

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NASA HEADQUARTERS.

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CATHY ULKIN, LUCY DEPUTY 

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PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR, 

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SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE.

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KEITH KNOLL, LUCY PROJECT 

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SCIENTIST, NASA'S GODDARD 

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SPACE FLIGHT CENTER.

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HAL WEAVER, PRINCIPAL 

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INVESTIGATOR FOR LORI, JOHNS 

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HOPKINS UNIVERSITY APPLIED 

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PHYSICS LAB.

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PHIL CHRISTIANSON, ARIZONA 

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STATE UNIVERSITY, AND DENNIS 

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REUTER, PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR

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FOR L-RALPH.

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THANK YOU FOR THE MEDIA FOR 

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JOINING US TODAY, WE'LL BE 

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TAKING YOUR QUESTIONS AFTER 

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COMMENTS FROM THE PANELISTS.

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THOSE OF YOU JOINING ONLINE 

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CAN ASK A QUESTION ANY TIME 

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USING THE #ASKNASA.

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TO KICK OFF TODAY'S 

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DISCUSSION, I TURN IT OVER TO 

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ADRIANNA.

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>> THANK YOU, ALANA.

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IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT

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WE ARE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO 

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YOU ABOUT THE LUCY MISSION.

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NASA'S VISION IS TO EXPLORE, 

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TO DISCOVER, TO INSPIRE AND TO

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FURTHER HUMAN KNOWLEDGE.

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LUCY IS A KEY PIECE OF THAT 

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VISION.

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SELECTED IN LATE 2016 THROUGH 

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THE NASA DISCOVERY PROGRAM, 

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LUCY WILL EXPLORE A REGION IN 

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OUR SOLAR SYSTEM NEVER 

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THE TROJAN ASTEROIDS RESIDE IN

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LUCY WILL PROFOUNDLY CHANGE 

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EVOLUTION IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.

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MISSION SCIENCE OBJECTIVE ON 

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INSTRUMENTATION, I LEAVE YOU 

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WITH A SCIENTIST OF THE 

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MISSION, STARTING WITH CATHY 

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>> THANK YOU, ADRIANA.

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SO PROBABLY WHEN YOU WERE IN 

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SCHOOL AND LEARNED ABOUT 

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ASTEROIDS, YOU LEARNED ABOUT 

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WHERE THEY ARE.

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MOST ASTEROIDS EVER WITH ONE 

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PAST SEVEN TROJAN ASTEROIDS IN

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GEOLOGY, SURFACE COMPOSITION, 

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BOTH PROPERTIES AND SEARCH FOR

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I'LL GIVE YOU A FLAVOR FOR 

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SOME OF OUR SCIENCE 

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INVESTIGATIONS.

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ONE OF THEM IS TO MAP THE 

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CRATERS ACROSS OUR SURFACES, 

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THE SURFACE OF THE TROJAN 

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CRATERS ON THE SURFACE, WE CAN

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SURFACE, AND THIS HELPS GIVE 

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SCIENCE INVESTIGATION TO LOOK 

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FRESH CRATERS.

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THE SURFACES SO WE NEED TO 

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INVESTIGATION I'D LIKE TO TELL

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YOU ABOUT, AND THAT IS OUR 

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MASS DETERMINATION.

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ASTEROIDS, THAT'S A KEY 

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THAT, WE NEED THE MASS, AND AS

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FREQUENCY AS WE FLY BY.

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HERE, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF

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TO KEITH KNOLL.

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>> THANKS A LOT, CATHY.

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SO WHEN YOU PLAN A MISSION, 

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THE VERY FIRST THING YOU HAVE 

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TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW YOU'RE 

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SO IF WE COULD RUN THE FIRST 

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LUCY TRAJECTORY, AND I WANT TO

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USE THAT TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE

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OF POINTS.

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LUCY IS A FLY-BY MISSION.

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THAT MEANS WE FLY BY OUR 

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15,000 MILES PER HOUR, THAT'S 

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PRETTY FAST, AND SO THAT 

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DESIGN OF THE OPERATIONS AND 

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EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO.

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THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO

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MAKE -- THE OTHER POINT I WANT

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TO MAKE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT 

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THESE CARTOON MAPS, IT LOOKS 

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LIKE THERE'S DOTS THAT 

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REPRESENT THE TROJANS ARE 

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PRETTY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER, 

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BUT, IN FACT, THE CLOSEST PAIR

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THAT WE HAVE IS MORE THAN TEN 

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MILLION MILES APART, AND THE 

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OTHERS ARE MUCH FURTHER THAN 

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THAT, EVEN.

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SO THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET TO 

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WITHIN 600 MILES OF OUR 

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TARGETS WHICH IS HOW CLOSE 

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WE'RE GOING TO FLY, AFTER 

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TRAVELING MORE THAN A BILLION 

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MILES, REALLY REQUIRES VERY 

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PRECISE NAVIGATION.

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THAT'S ALL PART OF THE LUCY 

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TRAJECTORY, AND THE TRAJECTORY

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IS WHAT DETERMINED WHAT 

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TARGETS WE END UP WITH, AND SO

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LET ME SHOW YOU THE NEXT 

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GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS A 

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COMPARISON OF OUR TARGETS.

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SO YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST 

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TARGET THERE IS ABOUT 60 MILES

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ACROSS.

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THAT IS PART OF A BINARY 

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COMPANION, SO THE TWO LARGEST 

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OBJECTS ARE IN ORBIT AROUND 

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EACH OTHER, PETROKLIS AND 

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MENECCIOUS, WE SEE A LOT OF 

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THE BINARY OBJECTS, WE DON'T 

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SEE SO MANY IN THE INNER SOLAR

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SYSTEM.

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WHAT THAT TELLS US IS 

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PETROKLIS, AND MENECIAS 

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TRANSPORTED THERE AND DIDN'T 

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GET BEAT UP TOO MUCH.

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ON THE OTHER HAND, THE OTHER 

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TARGET WE GET TO IS URIBIDIS 

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AND BEEN INVOLVED IN A MASSIVE

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COLLISION BECAUSE WE CAN SEE 

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THE DEBRIS FROM THE COLLISION 

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IN THE ORBITS FROM THE OBJECTS

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SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD 

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EXAMPLE OF THE POWER OF WHAT 

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LUCY IS ABLE TO DO BY HAVING 

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SO MANY TARGETS, WE CAN 

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CONSTRUCT ALL THE COMPARISONS 

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BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT 

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VARIETIES AND THE DIVERSITY 

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THAT WE SEE IN THE TROJANS, 

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THE UNEXPECTED DIVERSITY, THE 

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DIFFERENT COLORS, COLLISIONAL 

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HISTORIES, IT'S REALLY A 

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REPOSITORY OF FOSSILS, AS WE 

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LIKE TO SAY, OF THINGS THAT 

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HAPPENED AT THE EARLIEST 

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STAGES OF SOLAR SYSTEM 

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EVOLUTION.

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LET ME SHOW YOU THE NEXT 

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SLIDE.

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TURNS OUT THAT WE NOW HAVE ONE

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MORE TARGET THAN WE STARTED 

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OUT WITH BECAUSE FROM THE 

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EARTH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING AS 

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HARD AS WE CAN TO LOOK AT THE 

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TARGETS AND USING THE HUBBLE 

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SPACE TELESCOPE WE FOUND A 

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SATELLITE ORBITING, URIBIDIS, 

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THE ONE INVOLVED IN THE BIG 

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COLLISION KNOW AND THE ORBIT 

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OF THIS OBJECT WHICH WE NAMED 

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QUETTA, WE WILL ALSO FLY VERY 

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CLOSE TO THE SATELLITE QUETA, 

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THAT ADDS ADDITIONAL TARGET WE

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HOPE TO SEND BACK TO EARTH 

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FROM THE LUCY SPACECRAFT.

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SO AND THE LAST POINT IS FOR 

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FLY-BY MISSION, WE HAVE TO 

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CHOOSE INSTRUMENTS VERY 

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CAREFULLY BECAUSE WE DON'T 

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HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO DO THE 

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SCIENCE DURING THE FLY-BYES.

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LET ME SHOW THE LAST GRAPHIC.

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SHOWS THE LAYOUT OF THE 

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INSTRUMENTS, ON A SEPARATE 

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INSTRUMENT POINTING PLATFORM 

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THAT WE CAN MOVE AND USE TO 

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POINT RECISELY AT THE OBJECTS 

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AS WE FLY BY.

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THE THREE MAIN INSTRUMENTS ARE

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INDICATED ON THERE AND THE 

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NEXT THREE SPEAKERS INTRODUCE 

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YOU TO THE SCIENCE 

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INSTRUMENTS.

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LET ME PASS IT TO HAL WEAVER 

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WHO IS GOING TO TELL US ABOUT 

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THE LORI CAMERA.

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>> THANKS A LOT, KEITH, AND 

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HELLO, EVERYONE.

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YEAH, I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT 

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THE LOWERY, WHICH WE REFER TO 

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AS THE EAGLE EYES OF THE 

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SPACECRAFT BECAUSE IT WILL 

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PROVIDE THE HIGHEST RESOLUTION

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VIEWS OF THE TROJAN SURFACES.

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NOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING SO

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FAR AS WE LOOKED AT THE 

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ANIMATIONS ARE JUST ARTISTS' 

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RENDITIONS OF THE SURFACES OF 

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THESE TROJANS, GIVEN OUR BEST 

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CURRENT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEIR 

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PROPERTIES.

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WHEN THE LUCY SPACECRAFT GETS 

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TO FLY NEARBY CLOSE TO THE 

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OBJECTS, WE'LL FINALLY SEE 

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WHAT THEY REALLY LOOK LIKE AT 

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FOOTBALL FIELD RESOLUTION OR 

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BETTER.

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AT THE TIME OF CLOSEST 

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APPROACH TO THE TROJANS, LUCY 

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LORI IS GOING TO PROVIDE 

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DETAIL AS SMALL AS EIGHT YARDS

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ACROSS, THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE 

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OF ONE OF THE LUCY MISSION 

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SOLAR PANELS, SOLAR ARRAYS, 

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AND IT'S ALSO LESS YARDAGE 

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THAN YOU NEED TO GET A FIRST 

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DOWN IN FOOTBALL.

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IT'S AMAZING TO SEE THESE 

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OBJECTS AT THAT RESOLUTION.

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NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE?

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ARE THERE MOUNTAINS?

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VALLEYS?

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PITS?

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MESAS?

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WHO KNOWS?

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I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE 

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SURPRISED BUT WE CAN HARDLY 

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WAY TO SEE WHAT THE LORI 

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IMAGES WILL REVEAL ABOUT THE 

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FOSSILS FROM THE FORMATION OF 

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THE SOLAR SYSTEM.

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AND NOW WHAT I WANT TO DO IS 

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SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 

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LLORRI ITSELF.

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A NICE INTRODUCTION TO LUCY 

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LLORRI AND SHOWS YOU IN THE 

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LAB DURING GROUND TESTING AT 

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THE APPLIED PHYSICS LAB, YOU 

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CAN SEE LLORRI WITHOUT THE 

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THERMAL BLANKETS, THE 

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TELESCOPE IS THE SAME OPTICAL 

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DESIGN AS THE HUBBLE SPACE 

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TELESCOPE BUT MUCH SIMPLER.

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LLORRI HAS NO MOVING PARTS AND

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NO FILTERS AND WE DO THAT TO 

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REDUCE THE RISK OF FAILURE 

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DURING THE LONG MISSION, THE 

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12-YEAR MISSION.

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IN ADDITION TO MAPPING THE 

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SURFACES OF ALL THE TROJANS, 

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MEASURING THE CRATERS AS CATHY

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WAS SAYING, WE'LL ALSO USE 

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LLORRI TO PROVIDE SENSITIVE 

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SEARCHES FOR MOONS AROUND THE 

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TROJANS AND LOOK FOR POTENTIAL

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DUST RINGS AND WE'LL LOOK FOR 

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POSSIBLE ACTIVITY OF THESE 

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TROJANS, MATERIAL WILL BE 

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THROWN OFF BY COMMENTARY-LIKE 

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BEHAVIOR ASSOCIATED WITH THE 

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TROJANS.

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OKAY, SO ALTHOUGH LUCY LLORRI 

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IS MUCH SMALLER THAN HUBBLE, 

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IT ACTUALLY IS VERY LARGE FOR 

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AN INTERPLANETARY SPACECRAFT, 

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HAS AN 8.2 INCH PRIMARY MIRROR

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AND INTEGRATES ALL COLORS 

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TOGETHER TO PRODUCE VERY 

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SENSITIVE BLACK AND WHITE 

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IMAGES WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED 

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TO SEE THE DARK TROJAN 

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SURFACES AT HIGH RESOLUTION.

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OKAY, SO WHAT I WANT TO DO 

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NEXT IS TALK ABOUT LUCY LLORRI

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THE SUCCESSOR IT AN INSTRUMENT

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CURRENTLY FLYING IN SPACE 

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UNDER THE MISSION ALSO CALLED 

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LLORRI FLYING COMING UP ON 16 

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YEARS PERFORMING FLAWLESSLY 

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WITH NO DEGRADATION IN ITS 

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PERFORMANCE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU

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A COUPLE OF IMAGES, SOME 

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IMAGES FROM THE NEW HORIZONS 

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LLORRI, NEW HORIZONS LLORRI 

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FLEW BY THE PLUTO SYSTEM IN 

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2014 AND TOOK THE SPECTACULAR 

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IMAGES SHOWN TO THE LEFT, 

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SHOWING THE INCREDIBLE TERRAIN

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DIVERSITY IN PLUTO'S SURFACE, 

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AND 3 1/2 YEARS LATER ON NEW 

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YEAR'S DAY IN 2019, IT FLEW BY

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A SMALL KUIPER BELT OBJECT AND

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CAUSED BY THE GENTLE MERGER OF

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TWO SEPARATE BODIES CREATING 

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WHAT WE CALL A CONTACT BINARY.

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OKAY, AND THE FINAL GRAPHIC 

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THEY HAVE SHOWS ONE OF THE 

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OTHER VERY IMPORTANT ROLES 

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THAT LLORRI PLAYS ON THE LUCY 

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MISSION, THAT IS OPTICAL 

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NAVIGATION, AND THAT'S THE 

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SAME FUNCTION THAT THE LLORRI 

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INSTRUMENT ON NEW HORIZONS 

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PERFORMED, AND ON THE LEFT WE 

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SHOW AN IMAGE TAKEN 4 1/2 

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MONTHS BEFORE THE APPROACH 

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BEFORE THE CLOSE FLY-BY OF ARA

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KOFF AND IT'S WITHIN THE IMAGE

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OF WHERE THE CROSS IS BUT IN A

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00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,552
SEA OF BRIGHT STARS AND YOU 

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CAN'T REALLY SEE IT IN THE 

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IMAGE.

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IF YOU DIGITALLY SUBTRACT OUT 

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THE STARS, YOU GET THE IMAGE 

444
00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:44,430
TO THE RIGHT AND YOU SEE THE 

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ARAKOFF POPPING OUT NICELY.

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THE LLORRI IS DOING THE 

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SIMILAR THING, TWO MONTHS 

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BEFORE THE FLY-BY, WE'LL TRAIN

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THE LLORRI TELESCOPE ON THE 

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LOCATION OF THE SKY WHERE WE 

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THINK THE TROJANS ARE AND 

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ACQUIRE THE TROJAN TARGETS AND

453
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SYSTEMATICALLY MAKE 

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OBSERVATIONS OF THESE TARGETS 

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AS THE SPACECRAFT GETS CLOSER 

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AND CLOSER TO THE TARGET, AND 

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THE OPTICAL NAVIGATION TEAM 

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WILL ANALYZE THOSE IMAGES, AND

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IT WILL MAKE SMALL TRAJECTORY 

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MANEUVERS, CORRECTIONS, THAT 

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ALLOW THE LUCY SPACECRAFT TO 

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HEAD EXACTLY WHERE WE DESIGNED

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IT TO, AT THE RIGHT TIME.

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AND WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL 

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SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

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ATTENTION AND PASS IT ONTO 

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PHIL.

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>> THANKS, HAL.

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I'M GOING TO SPEND A FEW 

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MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THE LTES

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INSTRUMENT.

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WE USE INFRARED LIGHT TO 

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MEASURE THE TEMPERATURES OF 

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THE TROJANS.

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IF I COULD HAVE THE FIRST 

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VIDEO, IT SHOWS A QUICK 

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OVERVIEW OF THE INSTRUMENT, 

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MUCH LIKE LLORRI IT'S A 

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TELESCOPE, BUT WE MEASURE 

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INFRARED LIGHT AND WE USE THE 

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INFRARED LIGHT TO DETERMINE 

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THE TEMPERATURE OF THE 

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OBJECTS.

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THE TEMPERATURE TELLS US A 

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TREMENDOUS AMOUNT ABOUT THE 

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PHYSICAL PROPERTIES OF THE 

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SURFACE, AND SO VERY DENSE 

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ROCKS TAKE A LONG TIME TO HEAT

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UP DURING THE DAY SO THEY ARE 

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COOL DURING THE DAY AND LOSE 

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HEAT SLOWLY AT NIGHT SO THEY 

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STAY WARM AT NIGHT.

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FINE SAND, ON THE OTHER HAND, 

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IF YOU WALKED ACROSS A BEACH 

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AT NOON AND THE FINE SAND 

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HEATS UP, GETS VERY, VERY HOT 

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DURING THE DAY, LOSES 

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TEMPERATURE VERY RAPIDLY AT 

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NIGHT, AND SO BY COMPARING 

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THOSE DAY AND NIGHT 

501
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MEASUREMENTS WE DETERMINE IS 

502
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THE SURFACE MADE OF DENSE 

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BOULDER MATERIAL OR FINE GRAIN

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DUST AND SAND?

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THAT COMPLEMENTS THE VISIBLE 

506
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DATA WE'RE GETTING FROM THE 

507
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LLORRI AND THE LRALPH 

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INSTRUMENT.

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THE NEXT VIDEO SHOWS AN 

510
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EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF DATA 

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WE'VE COLLECTED FOR, IN THIS 

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CASE, MARS.

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WHAT YOU SEE IS AS THE PLANET 

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ROTATES, DAY TO NIGHT, 

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DIFFERENT MATERIALS HEAT UP 

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AND COOL DOWN VERY 

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DIFFERENTLY, SO FROM THAT 

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WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAY A LOT 

519
00:20:19,484 --> 00:20:21,954
ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF 

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ROCKS AND DUST AND FINE GRAIN 

521
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MATERIALS, REALLY UNDERSTAND 

522
00:20:24,923 --> 00:20:26,825
THE GEOLOGY OF THE PLANET BY 

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LOOKING AT THE TEMPERATURE 

524
00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:31,263
DATA AND HOW THINGS CHANGE 

525
00:20:31,263 --> 00:20:32,998
DURING THE DAY.

526
00:20:32,998 --> 00:20:38,370
MORE RECENTLY, LTES'S SISTER 

527
00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:41,440
INSTRUMENT ON THE OSIREIS 

528
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,476
MISSION WENT TO THE ASTEROID 

529
00:20:44,476 --> 00:20:46,645
BANU, A TEMPERATURE MOVIE OF 

530
00:20:46,645 --> 00:20:49,281
BANU AND HERE, YOU CAN SEE 

531
00:20:49,281 --> 00:20:50,816
DIFFERENT MATERIALS HEAT UP 

532
00:20:50,816 --> 00:20:52,017
DIFFERENTLY THROUGHOUT THE 

533
00:20:52,017 --> 00:20:52,317
DAY.

534
00:20:52,317 --> 00:20:54,052
ONE OF THE GREAT SURPRISES OF 

535
00:20:54,052 --> 00:20:56,221
THAT MISSION WAS THAT WE FOUND

536
00:20:56,221 --> 00:20:58,790
THAT THESE HOUSE-SIZED 

537
00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:00,492
BOULDERS, WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE

538
00:21:00,492 --> 00:21:02,628
BOULDERS WERE BEHAVING AS IF 

539
00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:04,229
THEY WERE VERY FINE GRAIN 

540
00:21:04,229 --> 00:21:05,697
MATERIAL, AND GETTING VERY HOT

541
00:21:05,697 --> 00:21:07,566
DURING THE DAY AND VERY COLD 

542
00:21:07,566 --> 00:21:10,102
AT NIGHT, SO AGAIN, IT SHOWS 

543
00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:12,504
HOW THE INFRARED IMAGES 

544
00:21:12,504 --> 00:21:14,273
COMPLEMENT THE IMAGES IN THE 

545
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:15,841
VISIBLE AND TELL US SOMETHING 

546
00:21:15,841 --> 00:21:18,610
ABOUT REMARKABLE WHAT LOOKED 

547
00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,846
TO BE BOULDERY MATERIAL IS 

548
00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:21,880
MATERIAL YOU COULD PROBABLY 

549
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,548
CRUSH IN YOUR HAND.

550
00:21:23,548 --> 00:21:25,317
SO AGAIN, POINTS TO THE 

551
00:21:25,317 --> 00:21:27,252
IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THIS 

552
00:21:27,252 --> 00:21:29,288
SUITE OF INSTRUMENTS LOOKING 

553
00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:30,989
AT DIFFERENT WAVELENGTHS.

554
00:21:30,989 --> 00:21:32,491
THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS A 

555
00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:34,159
FUN COMMENT THAT ALANA 

556
00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:37,562
REFERRED TO THAT WE ARE INDEED

557
00:21:37,562 --> 00:21:39,831
TAKING DIAMONDS HIGH INTO THE 

558
00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:40,599
SKY.

559
00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:42,234
THE NEXT GRAPHIC SHOWS THE 

560
00:21:42,234 --> 00:21:44,403
BEAM SPLITTER, IT'S A PART OF 

561
00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:47,105
THE INSTRUMENT THAT BREAKS THE

562
00:21:47,105 --> 00:21:48,173
LIGHT, SEND IT IN TWO 

563
00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:49,508
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND THE 

564
00:21:49,508 --> 00:21:53,745
UPPER LEFT CORNER YOU SEE ARE 

565
00:21:53,745 --> 00:21:57,015
DIAMOND, IT'S A DIAMOND 

566
00:21:57,015 --> 00:21:58,617
FLOATER THUMB AND FOREFINGER 

567
00:21:58,617 --> 00:22:01,353
FOR SCALE, YOU SEE HOW IT'S 

568
00:22:01,353 --> 00:22:02,654
MOUNTED INTO THE BEAM SPLITTER

569
00:22:02,654 --> 00:22:04,156
AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU SEE 

570
00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:06,358
HOW THE BEAM SPLITTER ENTERS 

571
00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:07,225
INTO THE INSTRUMENT.

572
00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:09,828
SO WE TRULY ARE SENDING A 

573
00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,064
DIAMOND INTO THE SKY WITH 

574
00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:14,299
LUCY, AND AGAIN, IT'S A 

575
00:22:14,299 --> 00:22:15,334
FUNDAMENTAL PART OF THE 

576
00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,768
INSTRUMENT AND ALSO A FUN 

577
00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:17,936
ELEMENT OF THE MISSION.

578
00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:20,706
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER 

579
00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:21,606
TO DENNIS.

580
00:22:21,606 --> 00:22:23,075
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PHIL.

581
00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:26,311
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE 

582
00:22:26,311 --> 00:22:30,816
TO DISCUSS THE LRALPH 

583
00:22:30,816 --> 00:22:33,051
INSTRUMENT ON LUCY, AND 

584
00:22:33,051 --> 00:22:34,453
L-RALPH IS ONE OF THE KEY 

585
00:22:34,453 --> 00:22:37,189
GOALS OF LUCY IS TO UNDERSTAND

586
00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:39,157
THE COMPOSITION OF THE 

587
00:22:39,157 --> 00:22:41,159
SURFACES OF THE MATERIAL, OF 

588
00:22:41,159 --> 00:22:42,761
THE OBJECTS WE'RE GOING TO, 

589
00:22:42,761 --> 00:22:44,896
THE TROJANS WE'RE GOING TO AND

590
00:22:44,896 --> 00:22:46,565
HOW THAT COMPOSITION IS 

591
00:22:46,565 --> 00:22:49,301
RELATED TO THE GEOLOGY, THE 

592
00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:50,535
MORPHOLOGY, THE SHAPE OF THE 

593
00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:50,902
SURFACE.

594
00:22:50,902 --> 00:22:51,803
IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCES IN 

595
00:22:51,803 --> 00:22:53,138
THE COMPOSITION WHEN YOU'RE IN

596
00:22:53,138 --> 00:22:54,906
A CRATER VERSUS A MOUNTAIN AND

597
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:57,843
SO ON AND SO FORTH?

598
00:22:57,843 --> 00:23:00,379
GETTING THE DATA FROM LLORRI, 

599
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:02,681
WHICH WE'LL LOOK AT A LOT OF 

600
00:23:02,681 --> 00:23:03,715
CRATERS AND TELL US HOW OLD 

601
00:23:03,715 --> 00:23:05,650
THEY ARE WILL ALLOW US TO SEE 

602
00:23:05,650 --> 00:23:07,386
IF THERE IS COORDINATION 

603
00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:08,720
BETWEEN THE COMPOSITION AND 

604
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,455
HOW OLD THE SURFACE IS.

605
00:23:10,455 --> 00:23:12,924
SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING BOTH 

606
00:23:12,924 --> 00:23:14,259
FORMATION PROCESS AND THE 

607
00:23:14,259 --> 00:23:15,260
EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS.

608
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:18,964
IF I COULD GO TO THE FIRST 

609
00:23:18,964 --> 00:23:22,334
CHART, PLEASE?

610
00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:23,802
NOW, L-RALPH IS TWO 

611
00:23:23,802 --> 00:23:25,937
INSTRUMENTS IN ONE.

612
00:23:25,937 --> 00:23:29,274
IT HAS A VISIBLE NEAR INFRARED

613
00:23:29,274 --> 00:23:30,809
FOCAL PLANE THAT ALLOWS US TO 

614
00:23:30,809 --> 00:23:31,977
KIND OF SEE WHAT YOU'D SEE 

615
00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:34,746
WITH YOUR EYES WHEN YOU GO 

616
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:37,315
THROUGH IT.

617
00:23:37,315 --> 00:23:39,217
IT HAS NARROW BAND CHANNELS 

618
00:23:39,217 --> 00:23:41,453
THAT LOOK AT COLORS IN SIX OR 

619
00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:44,055
SO WAVELENGTH BANDS AND 

620
00:23:44,055 --> 00:23:47,659
VISIBLE IN THE NEAR INFRARED, 

621
00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:49,060
CALLED M-VICK.

622
00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:51,863
IT HAS AN INFRARED DETECTOR 

623
00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:54,166
CALLED LISA THAT LOOKS ONLY IN

624
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:56,935
THE INFRARED, STUFF THAT YOU 

625
00:23:56,935 --> 00:23:59,938
COULDN'T SEE, IT LOOKS IN NOT 

626
00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:04,409
FIVE OR SIX BANDS BUT EIGHT 

627
00:24:04,409 --> 00:24:05,977
BANDS BUT TELLS US WHAT THE 

628
00:24:05,977 --> 00:24:07,145
COMPOSITION OF THE SURFACE IS 

629
00:24:07,145 --> 00:24:09,080
BY LOOKING AT HOW THE 

630
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,416
REFLECTION CHANGES AS A 

631
00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:13,185
FUNCTION OF WAVELENGTH.

632
00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:15,687
L-RALPH HAS TO BE VERY COOL 

633
00:24:15,687 --> 00:24:17,989
BECAUSE THE INFRARED DETECTOR 

634
00:24:17,989 --> 00:24:19,591
CAN'T GET VERY WARM.  

635
00:24:19,591 --> 00:24:22,294
IT HAS TO GET DOWN TO 100 

636
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:24,863
KELVIN, THAT'S LIKE MINUS 280 

637
00:24:24,863 --> 00:24:26,097
FAHRENHEIT, SO BECAUSE WE HAVE

638
00:24:26,097 --> 00:24:28,567
TO STAY IN FOCUS ALL THE TIME,

639
00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:30,969
WE MADE THE INSTRUMENT OUT OF 

640
00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:33,271
A SINGLE BLOCK OF ALUMINUM, 

641
00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:35,207
CUT IT ALL OUT, AND THEN MAKE 

642
00:24:35,207 --> 00:24:36,308
ALL THE INTERNAL STUFF OUT OF 

643
00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:38,176
IT, INCLUDING THE MIRRORS.

644
00:24:38,176 --> 00:24:39,911
THAT WAY WHEN THINGS COOL 

645
00:24:39,911 --> 00:24:41,813
DOWN, EVERYTHING MOVES AT THE 

646
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:43,548
SAME RATE AND IT STAYS IN 

647
00:24:43,548 --> 00:24:43,949
FOCUS.

648
00:24:43,949 --> 00:24:46,485
BY THE WAY, THE MIRRORS ARE 

649
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:49,187
MADE OUT OF ALUMINUM BUT 

650
00:24:49,187 --> 00:24:50,188
POLISHED WITH DIAMONDS.

651
00:24:50,188 --> 00:24:51,790
WE DID OUR DIAMONDS BEFORE WE 

652
00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:52,824
WENT INTO THE SKY ON THIS.

653
00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:54,926
IF I COULD HAVE -- SORRY ABOUT

654
00:24:54,926 --> 00:24:55,861
THAT.

655
00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:58,163
IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT 

656
00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:58,830
CHART?

657
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:00,665
THIS IS WHY WE GO TO THE 

658
00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:03,034
OBJECTS RATHER THAN LOOKING AT

659
00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,870
THEM FROM THE GROUND.

660
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:07,739
THIS IS AN IMAGE FROM THE 

661
00:25:07,739 --> 00:25:11,910
M-VICK FOCAL PLANE ON THE NEW 

662
00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:13,378
HORIZONS RALPH INSTRUMENT.

663
00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:14,613
L-RALPH AND RALPH ARE CLOSELY 

664
00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:17,415
RELATED IN TERMS OF HOW THEY 

665
00:25:17,415 --> 00:25:20,619
WORK, BUT L-RALPH HAS A LOT 

666
00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:21,620
MORE CAPABILITY, AND I'LL 

667
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:22,754
EXPLAIN THAT IN A SECOND.

668
00:25:22,754 --> 00:25:24,322
ANY RATE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 

669
00:25:24,322 --> 00:25:26,858
THIS PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE 

670
00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:28,793
AREAS THAT ARE RED AND WHITE, 

671
00:25:28,793 --> 00:25:30,562
AND THEY'RE QUITE SEPARATED.

672
00:25:30,562 --> 00:25:32,297
THE WHITE AREAS LOOK LIKE 

673
00:25:32,297 --> 00:25:33,765
WHERE SOMETHING HAS MOVED UP 

674
00:25:33,765 --> 00:25:34,866
FROM THE GROUND.

675
00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:36,935
THE RED AREAS LOOK LIKE 

676
00:25:36,935 --> 00:25:38,270
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE 

677
00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:40,939
FLAT SURFACE THAT MOVED UP.

678
00:25:40,939 --> 00:25:42,374
WELL, THAT MAY BE BECAUSE 

679
00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:44,209
THERE WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT 

680
00:25:44,209 --> 00:25:45,076
UNDER THE GROUND WHERE THE 

681
00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:47,212
WHITE AREAS ARE, IT'S 

682
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:48,246
REFLECTING ALL THE WHITE AND 

683
00:25:48,246 --> 00:25:50,982
ALL THE CHANNELS WE'RE LOOKING

684
00:25:50,982 --> 00:25:51,249
AT.

685
00:25:51,249 --> 00:25:54,586
OR MAYBE THAT THE AREAS ON THE

686
00:25:54,586 --> 00:25:58,323
TOP HAVE AGED MORE BECAUSE 

687
00:25:58,323 --> 00:25:59,824
THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO COSMIC

688
00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:03,261
RADIATION AND SO ON FOR A 

689
00:26:03,261 --> 00:26:04,095
LONGER PERIOD.

690
00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:05,564
BUT AGAIN, GETTING THIS 

691
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,265
RESOLUTION, WE HAD IMAGES OF 

692
00:26:07,265 --> 00:26:09,034
PLUTO BEFORE WE GOT THERE, BUT

693
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,503
NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

694
00:26:11,503 --> 00:26:14,039
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT CHART, 

695
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,407
THIS IS AN IMAGE TAKEN -- 

696
00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:17,309
EXCUSE ME, A MAP OF 

697
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:19,210
COMPOSITIONS TAKEN WITH THE 

698
00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:20,979
LISA INSTRUMENT ON NEW 

699
00:26:20,979 --> 00:26:24,482
HORIZONS RALPH, AND HERE WE'RE

700
00:26:24,482 --> 00:26:25,350
LOOKING AT WATER.

701
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:27,652
PURE WATER ICE, AND YOU CAN 

702
00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:29,821
SEE IT'S MODELED AROUND AND 

703
00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:31,389
LOW, MORE GREEN YOU GET, THE 

704
00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:33,625
MORE ICE THERE IS, AND YOU CAN

705
00:26:33,625 --> 00:26:36,194
SEE AREAS WHERE THERE'S A LOT 

706
00:26:36,194 --> 00:26:37,495
OF WATER SITTING ON THE 

707
00:26:37,495 --> 00:26:37,862
SURFACE.

708
00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:40,532
NOW, AGAIN, THAT SORT OF 

709
00:26:40,532 --> 00:26:42,033
INDICATES THAT SOMETHING IS 

710
00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:43,234
HAPPENING DIFFERENT ON THERE 

711
00:26:43,234 --> 00:26:44,436
AND THE MORE VOLATILE THINGS 

712
00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:48,440
THAT ARE ON PLUTO, THE 

713
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,874
NITROGEN AND METHANE HAVE GONE

714
00:26:49,874 --> 00:26:51,810
OFF OF THE SURFACE OR PERHAPS 

715
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:52,544
SOMETHING HAD CRASHED AND 

716
00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:53,912
BROUGHT WATER IN, WHATEVER, 

717
00:26:53,912 --> 00:26:55,513
THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING WHEN 

718
00:26:55,513 --> 00:26:57,816
WE LOOK AT A BUNCH OF CASES, 

719
00:26:57,816 --> 00:27:00,752
YOU CAN START TO UNDERSTAND 

720
00:27:00,752 --> 00:27:02,187
THE HISTORY OF THE OBJECT.

721
00:27:02,187 --> 00:27:04,322
HOW IT'S MADE AND AGED AFTER 

722
00:27:04,322 --> 00:27:06,257
IT WAS MADE.

723
00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:09,494
IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT 

724
00:27:09,494 --> 00:27:10,395
CHART, PLEASE?

725
00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:13,898
THE NEXT CHART IS WHERE WE SEE

726
00:27:13,898 --> 00:27:16,301
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN L-RALPH

727
00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:18,837
ON LUCY AND RALPH ON NEW 

728
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:20,605
HORIZONS BECAUSE THESE ARE 

729
00:27:20,605 --> 00:27:22,140
LONGER WAVELENGTH MAPS THAT 

730
00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:24,476
WERE TAKEN AT BENNU, THE SAME 

731
00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:25,710
OBJECT THAT PHIL WAS JUST 

732
00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:28,413
TALKING ABOUT, AND YOU CAN SEE

733
00:27:28,413 --> 00:27:29,848
THAT THERE ARE AREAS ON THE 

734
00:27:29,848 --> 00:27:33,818
LEFT, THE LEFT SHOWS THE 

735
00:27:33,818 --> 00:27:34,185
WATER.  

736
00:27:34,185 --> 00:27:34,953
THIS IS NOT WATER LIKE ON 

737
00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:36,688
PLUTO, WHICH IS ICE.

738
00:27:36,688 --> 00:27:39,057
THIS IS WATER THAT IS 

739
00:27:39,057 --> 00:27:40,058
INCORPORATED INTO THE SOIL, 

740
00:27:40,058 --> 00:27:41,526
AND INCORPORATED INTO THE 

741
00:27:41,526 --> 00:27:42,994
MATERIAL THAT MAKES UP THE 

742
00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:43,328
OBJECT.

743
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:45,797
KIND OF LIKE CLAY IN YOUR 

744
00:27:45,797 --> 00:27:46,898
BACKYARD, AND YOU CAN SEE 

745
00:27:46,898 --> 00:27:48,333
THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THERE 

746
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:50,735
ARE CRATERS AND HAS A LOT MORE

747
00:27:50,735 --> 00:27:52,504
WATER THAN OTHER PLACES AND 

748
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,639
OTHER CRATERS THAT HAVE LESS 

749
00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:55,840
WATER.

750
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,809
AGAIN, ON THE LEFT, WHAT IT IS

751
00:27:57,809 --> 00:28:00,578
A MAP OF THE THING THAT LOOKS 

752
00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:01,980
LIKE KIND OF THE MATERIALS 

753
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:04,115
THAT MAKE UP ORGANIC 

754
00:28:04,115 --> 00:28:04,516
MOLECULES.

755
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:06,117
WE'RE NOT SAYING THESE ARE 

756
00:28:06,117 --> 00:28:07,786
ORGANIC MOLECULES BUT KIND OF 

757
00:28:07,786 --> 00:28:14,125
THE BUILDING LOCKS OF ORGANIC 

758
00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:15,260
MOLECULES, AND AGAIN, THERE'S 

759
00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:16,828
THIS NICE COLUMN, YOU CAN USE 

760
00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:20,098
THE MAPS TO GET A FEEL OF THE 

761
00:28:20,098 --> 00:28:21,599
CORRELATION BETWEEN 

762
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:22,600
COMPOSITION AND SURFACE 

763
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,001
STRUCTURE.

764
00:28:23,001 --> 00:28:24,502
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO 

765
00:28:24,502 --> 00:28:25,870
ON LUCY AND THE INFORMATION 

766
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:28,039
THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE OTHER 

767
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:29,040
INSTRUMENTS WHERE IT TELLS US 

768
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,645
THE SIZE OF THINGS, AGE OF 

769
00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:37,115
THINGS, WHERE IT TELLS US THE 

770
00:28:37,115 --> 00:28:38,750
SIZE OF THE MATERIAL BECAUSE 

771
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:40,685
IT'S GIVING THERMAL STRUCTURE,

772
00:28:40,685 --> 00:28:42,487
HELP US ANALYZE THE DATA.

773
00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:43,521
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD 

774
00:28:43,521 --> 00:28:45,824
TO GETTING THE DATA AND 

775
00:28:45,824 --> 00:28:47,025
ANALYZING THEM OVER THE NEXT 

776
00:28:47,025 --> 00:28:47,492
20 YEARS.

777
00:28:47,492 --> 00:28:48,793
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND 

778
00:28:48,793 --> 00:28:51,096
ALANA, I TURN IT BACK TO YOU.

779
00:28:51,096 --> 00:28:52,163
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DENNIS.

780
00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:53,765
THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR 

781
00:28:53,765 --> 00:28:54,199
EXPERTS.

782
00:28:54,199 --> 00:28:57,569
THE PHONE LINES ARE NOW OPEN.

783
00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:59,471
PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF, YOUR

784
00:28:59,471 --> 00:29:00,739
OUTLET AND THE EXPERT YOU 

785
00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:02,674
WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER YOUR 

786
00:29:02,674 --> 00:29:03,141
QUESTION.

787
00:29:03,141 --> 00:29:05,410
TO MAXIMIZE TODAY'S TIME, 

788
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,212
PLEASE KEEP QUESTIONS CENTERED

789
00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:10,715
ON LUCY'S MISSION SCIENCE.

790
00:29:10,715 --> 00:29:13,685
OUR FIRST QUESTION COMES FROM 

791
00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:15,386
HAL KING ON FACEBOOK WHO ASKS,

792
00:29:15,386 --> 00:29:17,355
COULD THE TROJAN ASTEROIDS BE 

793
00:29:17,355 --> 00:29:19,124
THE REMNANTS OF JUPITER'S 

794
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,426
MOONS IN ADDITION TO JUPITER?

795
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:26,364
I'M GOING TO TOSS THAT TO 

796
00:29:26,364 --> 00:29:26,698
KEITH.

797
00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:28,333
>> THAT WAS WHAT PEOPLE 

798
00:29:28,333 --> 00:29:29,534
THOUGHT 30 YEARS AGO, AND WHAT

799
00:29:29,534 --> 00:29:31,503
WE'VE LEARNED SINCE THEN IS 

800
00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:35,340
THAT, IN FACT, THE JUPITER 

801
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:36,508
TROJANS DO NOT HAVE A 

802
00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:37,709
CONNECTION TO JUPITER OTHER 

803
00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:39,844
THAN THE FACT THAT JUPITER 

804
00:29:39,844 --> 00:29:42,881
PROVIDES THIS LITTLE 

805
00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:45,316
STABILIZING INFLUENCE, AND SO 

806
00:29:45,316 --> 00:29:49,287
THE GOAL OF LUCY IS REALLY TO 

807
00:29:49,287 --> 00:29:51,723
TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW AND 

808
00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:53,625
WHERE THE TROJANS CAME FROM, 

809
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,327
BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE IT'S NOT

810
00:29:56,327 --> 00:29:57,929
FROM ANYWHERE NEAR JUPITER.

811
00:29:57,929 --> 00:30:00,632
THE OTHER POINT I'LL MAKE IS 

812
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:02,267
IT'S OFTEN SAID THAT THE 

813
00:30:02,267 --> 00:30:03,968
TROJANS ARE NEAR JUPITER.

814
00:30:03,968 --> 00:30:05,403
THEY'RE REALLY FAR FROM 

815
00:30:05,403 --> 00:30:05,770
JUPITER.

816
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:07,005
IN FACT, THE CLOSEST THAT THE 

817
00:30:07,005 --> 00:30:08,206
LUCY SPACECRAFT WILL EVER BE 

818
00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:10,275
TO JUPITER IS WHEN IT'S NEAR 

819
00:30:10,275 --> 00:30:11,142
THE EARTH.

820
00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:12,143
WHEN WE'RE IN THE TROJANS, 

821
00:30:12,143 --> 00:30:13,978
WE'RE FARTHER AWAY FROM 

822
00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:16,548
JUPITER THAN WE ARE AT THE 

823
00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:19,717
TIME WHEN WE'RE FLYING PAST 

824
00:30:19,717 --> 00:30:21,085
THE EARTH.

825
00:30:21,085 --> 00:30:22,220
>> THANK YOU.

826
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,657
WE HAVE OUR NEXT QUESTION 

827
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:30,495
COMES FROM MICHAEL GRESHCOW 

828
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:31,696
FROM "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC."

829
00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:32,530
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR 

830
00:30:32,530 --> 00:30:33,364
DOING THIS.

831
00:30:33,364 --> 00:30:34,532
I THINK THE QUESTION MIGHT BE 

832
00:30:34,532 --> 00:30:35,533
FOR CATHY.

833
00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:38,236
YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR OPENING 

834
00:30:38,236 --> 00:30:39,437
REMARKS THAT THE MASS 

835
00:30:39,437 --> 00:30:40,138
DETERMINATION WILL BE AN 

836
00:30:40,138 --> 00:30:41,739
IMPORTANT PART OF THAT, AND 

837
00:30:41,739 --> 00:30:46,177
YOU'LL DO THAT IN PART THROUGH

838
00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:47,178
CHECKING THE DOPPLER SHIFT.

839
00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:50,315
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD 

840
00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:53,351
SPEAK TO HOW IMPORTANT SOME OF

841
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:56,154
THE BINARY SYSTEMS OF THE 

842
00:30:56,154 --> 00:31:03,428
MISSION WILL BE, THE PETROCLUS

843
00:31:03,428 --> 00:31:08,233
AND EURYBATES.

844
00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:11,336
>> YES, YOU CAN GET THE SYSTEM

845
00:31:11,336 --> 00:31:14,239
MASS WITHOUT HAVING A FLY-BY, 

846
00:31:14,239 --> 00:31:16,140
THAT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR 

847
00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:17,775
UNDERSTANDING THE DENSITY OF 

848
00:31:17,775 --> 00:31:20,745
BINARY SYSTEMS.

849
00:31:20,745 --> 00:31:24,482
FOR OBJECTS LIKE LUCAS AND 

850
00:31:24,482 --> 00:31:26,651
ORIS, OTHER TARGETS THAT 

851
00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:28,720
AREN'T BINEARIES AND WE REALLY

852
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,022
WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE 

853
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:32,257
MASS DETERMINATION FROM THE 

854
00:31:32,257 --> 00:31:36,127
FLY-BY, AND WE WILL, USING THE

855
00:31:36,127 --> 00:31:39,197
DOPPLER SHIFT.

856
00:31:39,197 --> 00:31:47,438
WITH THE PETROCCLUS AND 

857
00:31:47,438 --> 00:31:49,874
MENECIUS, THEY OPERATE LIKE 

858
00:31:49,874 --> 00:31:53,177
THIS, LIKE A DUMBBELL ROTATING

859
00:31:53,177 --> 00:31:56,080
AROUND THE SAME POSITION IN 

860
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,915
SPACE, AND CAN YOU MEASURE 

861
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:58,750
THAT MOTION RELATIVE TO THE 

862
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,752
CENTER OF MASS TO GET THE MASS

863
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:02,820
RATIO BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE

864
00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:05,023
OBJECTS, AND WE WILL ALSO BE 

865
00:32:05,023 --> 00:32:06,724
DOING THAT AS WE APPROACH OUR 

866
00:32:06,724 --> 00:32:08,893
TROJAN ASTEROIDS, SO THAT WE 

867
00:32:08,893 --> 00:32:12,397
HAVE NOT ONLY THE SYSTEM MASS 

868
00:32:12,397 --> 00:32:15,133
THAT YOU GET FROM A BINARY 

869
00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:16,601
SYSTEM BUT THEN THE INDIVIDUAL

870
00:32:16,601 --> 00:32:20,705
MASSES OF EACH OF THOSE 

871
00:32:20,705 --> 00:32:21,139
COMPONENTS.  

872
00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:23,574
>> CAN I ADD TO THAT A LITTLE 

873
00:32:23,574 --> 00:32:23,908
BIT?  

874
00:32:23,908 --> 00:32:24,442
>> PLEASE DO.

875
00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:25,977
>> THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS 

876
00:32:25,977 --> 00:32:26,811
WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO 

877
00:32:26,811 --> 00:32:28,379
DETERMINE THE DENSITY, YOU 

878
00:32:28,379 --> 00:32:29,681
ALSO NEED TO KNOW THE VOLUME, 

879
00:32:29,681 --> 00:32:32,483
AND WHAT LUCY IS GOING TO GIVE

880
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:33,985
US IS A VERY, VERY GOOD 

881
00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:34,886
DETERMINATION OF THE VOLUME 

882
00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:37,221
FOR OUR TARGETS BUT FROM OUR 

883
00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:39,090
IMAGING, FOR THE TARGETS WHERE

884
00:32:39,090 --> 00:32:42,560
WE ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD 

885
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,028
HANDLE ON THE SYSTEM MASS, 

886
00:32:44,028 --> 00:32:45,930
WE'LL DO A LITTLE BETTER ON 

887
00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:47,298
DETERMINING THE MASS, WE'LL DO

888
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:48,933
MUCH, MUCH BETTER ON 

889
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:49,600
DETERMINING THE VOLUME.

890
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,336
THAT'S WHAT GIVES US THE 

891
00:32:51,336 --> 00:32:53,004
DENSITY MEASUREMENTS.

892
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:54,205
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

893
00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:55,940
OKAY, GOING BACK TO SOCIAL 

894
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:56,607
MEDIA.

895
00:32:56,607 --> 00:33:00,611
THIS ONE I'M GOING TO THROW TO

896
00:33:00,611 --> 00:33:00,945
PHIL.

897
00:33:00,945 --> 00:33:03,481
WD ON TWITTER ASKS, I FELL IN 

898
00:33:03,481 --> 00:33:06,217
LOVE WITH LUCY'S MISSION AFTER

899
00:33:06,217 --> 00:33:08,720
WORKING ON THE RELATED NASA 

900
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,021
SPACE APPS CHALLENGE.

901
00:33:10,021 --> 00:33:11,022
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS CERTAIN 

902
00:33:11,022 --> 00:33:14,826
TO BE FOUND ON THESE 

903
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:15,293
ASTEROIDS?  

904
00:33:15,293 --> 00:33:19,731
>> I THINK THE THING THAT 

905
00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:21,366
WE'RE CERTAIN IS ABOUT IS WE 

906
00:33:21,366 --> 00:33:22,834
WILL BE SURPRISED.

907
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:24,302
THE REASON WE GO TO THE 

908
00:33:24,302 --> 00:33:25,570
OBJECTS IS WE DON'T KNOW MUCH 

909
00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:27,505
ABOUT THEM, SO EVERYWHERE 

910
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:29,574
WE'VE GONE IN THE SOLAR 

911
00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:32,610
SYSTEM, WE'VE BEEN SURPRISED.

912
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:34,979
AND SO I THINK IT WOULD ALMOST

913
00:33:34,979 --> 00:33:38,349
BE PREMATURE FOR US TO BE 

914
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:39,751
SPECULATING WHAT WE MIGHT 

915
00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:40,051
FIND.

916
00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:41,152
THE EXCITEMENT IS WE'RE 

917
00:33:41,152 --> 00:33:42,720
EXPLORING, TRYING TO FIGURE 

918
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,490
OUT WHAT THEY ARE LIKE, SO I 

919
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:47,492
WOULD SAY IT'S SURPRISE IS 

920
00:33:47,492 --> 00:33:48,993
WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE 

921
00:33:48,993 --> 00:33:50,461
THING THEY EXPECT THE MOST.

922
00:33:50,461 --> 00:33:53,064
>> GREAT.

923
00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:55,700
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY 

924
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:56,434
SURPRISES OR ANYTHING YOU 

925
00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:59,170
THINK IS CERTAIN TO BE FOUND? 

926
00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:01,906
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 

927
00:34:01,906 --> 00:34:02,774
WHAT'S CERTAIN TO BE FOUND, 

928
00:34:02,774 --> 00:34:06,811
BUT WE SET OUT WITH A PURPOSE 

929
00:34:06,811 --> 00:34:08,713
OF UNDERSTANDING THE DIVERSITY

930
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,115
OF THESE TARGETS, AND SO 

931
00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:11,983
THERE'S DIVERSITY IN THE 

932
00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:13,151
TROJAN ASTEROIDS AND WE'RE 

933
00:34:13,151 --> 00:34:16,320
GOING TO BE SEEING LOTS OF 

934
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,423
DIFFERENT TROJAN ASTEROID 

935
00:34:18,423 --> 00:34:19,023
TYPES.

936
00:34:19,023 --> 00:34:21,692
REMNANT OF A COLLISION AND 

937
00:34:21,692 --> 00:34:23,661
NEAR EQUAL MASS BINARY.

938
00:34:23,661 --> 00:34:26,364
ALSO OBJECTS THAT ARE MORE RED

939
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:27,498
ON THE SURFACE AND LESS RED ON

940
00:34:27,498 --> 00:34:28,933
THE SURFACE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW

941
00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:32,870
MUCH MORE THAN THAT, LIKE PHIL

942
00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:33,271
SAID.

943
00:34:33,271 --> 00:34:35,973
SO WHAT I THINK WE WILL KNOW 

944
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:37,175
IS WE'LL ADVANCE OUR 

945
00:34:37,175 --> 00:34:38,843
UNDERSTANDING BY BEING ABLE TO

946
00:34:38,843 --> 00:34:41,412
MAKE COMPARISONS BETWEEN THESE

947
00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:43,381
OBJECTS, BY SEEING SEVEN 

948
00:34:43,381 --> 00:34:44,916
DIFFERENT TROJAN ASTEROIDS, 

949
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,951
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SO MANY 

950
00:34:46,951 --> 00:34:48,286
COMPARISONS ABOUT THESE 

951
00:34:48,286 --> 00:34:48,653
OBJECTS.

952
00:34:48,653 --> 00:34:49,454
I'M ALSO REALLY LOOKING 

953
00:34:49,454 --> 00:34:50,788
FORWARD TO COMPARING THE 

954
00:34:50,788 --> 00:34:53,291
TROJAN ASTEROIDS TO OTHER 

955
00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:55,326
SMALL BODY POPULATIONS IN OUR 

956
00:34:55,326 --> 00:34:56,327
SOLAR SYSTEM.

957
00:34:56,327 --> 00:34:58,696
THERE'S BEEN OTHER GREAT 

958
00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:00,531
MISSIONS BY NASA TO THE SMALL 

959
00:35:00,531 --> 00:35:01,999
BODY POPULATIONS AND BE ABLE 

960
00:35:01,999 --> 00:35:04,836
TO LEVERAGE AND LEARN FROM 

961
00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:06,070
THAT AS WELL.

962
00:35:06,070 --> 00:35:08,573
>> OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES 

963
00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:11,042
FROM KEN KRAMER, SPACE 

964
00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:11,409
UPCLOSE.

965
00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:12,009
GO AHEAD, KEN.

966
00:35:12,009 --> 00:35:15,246
>> HI, THANK YOU FOR DOING 

967
00:35:15,246 --> 00:35:16,781
THIS, AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE 

968
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:17,115
LAUNCH.

969
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:21,452
MY QUESTION FOR HAL WEAVER, 

970
00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:27,325
PLEASE, SINCE YOU MENTIONED 

971
00:35:27,325 --> 00:35:28,860
ARAKOFF, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE 

972
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:31,362
FLY-BY SPEEDS OF THE TROJANS 

973
00:35:31,362 --> 00:35:33,698
COMPARED TO WHAT YOU FLEW BY 

974
00:35:33,698 --> 00:35:36,667
PLUTO AND ARAKOFF AND HOW DO 

975
00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:38,636
THE OBJECTS DIFFER, COMPARE 

976
00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:41,639
AND CONTRAST THEM TO THE TEST 

977
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:42,974
MOLDS IN THE KUIPER BELT.

978
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:46,310
>> HI, KEN, THOSE ARE GREAT 

979
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:46,711
QUESTIONS.

980
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:48,479
AS FAR AS THE FLY-BY SPEEDS 

981
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:49,847
GO, FORTUNATELY WE'LL BE 

982
00:35:49,847 --> 00:35:53,818
FLYING BY THE TROJAN OBJECTS 

983
00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:57,555
IN ROUGHLY THREE OR FOUR TIMES

984
00:35:57,555 --> 00:36:00,791
SLOWER THAN WHAT WE FLEW BY 

985
00:36:00,791 --> 00:36:03,427
ARAKOFF WITH NEW HORIZONS, THE

986
00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:04,795
FASTEST SPACECRAFT EVER TO 

987
00:36:04,795 --> 00:36:06,731
LEAVE THE EARTH ON, A BEELINE 

988
00:36:06,731 --> 00:36:08,966
TO THE PLUTO SYSTEM AND FLEW 

989
00:36:08,966 --> 00:36:10,668
BY ARAKOFF.

990
00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:12,637
THE OTHER ADVANTAGE OF THE 

991
00:36:12,637 --> 00:36:15,907
LUCY MISSION IS THAT WE'RE 

992
00:36:15,907 --> 00:36:19,110
PLANNING TO GO MUCH CLOSER 

993
00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:22,813
AROUND 600 MILES AWAY TO MOST 

994
00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:25,316
OF THE TROJANS AS OPPOSED TO 

995
00:36:25,316 --> 00:36:28,019
2,000 MILES AWAY FOR THE 

996
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,287
ARAKOFF FLY-BY.

997
00:36:29,287 --> 00:36:32,823
SO YOU SAW THAT PICTURE, THE 

998
00:36:32,823 --> 00:36:36,527
BEAUTIFUL LLORRI PICTURE OF 

999
00:36:36,527 --> 00:36:38,329
ARAKOFF, WE'LL HAVE FOUR TIMES

1000
00:36:38,329 --> 00:36:39,797
BETTER RESOLUTION FOR THE 

1001
00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:40,164
TROJANS.

1002
00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:41,832
WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT KIND

1003
00:36:41,832 --> 00:36:43,935
OF SURFACE DETAILS WE'LL SEE 

1004
00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:46,404
ON THESE TROJANS, AND AS CATHY

1005
00:36:46,404 --> 00:36:48,906
WAS SAYING EARLIER AND KEITH 

1006
00:36:48,906 --> 00:36:52,009
ALSO, YOU DON'T JUST STOP AT 

1007
00:36:52,009 --> 00:36:52,310
ONE.

1008
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:54,045
YOU HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT 

1009
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:55,046
OBJECTS TO FLY BY.  

1010
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:58,482
THIS IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE, AND

1011
00:36:58,482 --> 00:37:00,985
IT'S GOING TO BE NEAT TO 

1012
00:37:00,985 --> 00:37:04,222
CREATE JUST A WONDERFUL BOOK 

1013
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:07,291
OF WHAT THE TROJAN, WHAT THE 

1014
00:37:07,291 --> 00:37:09,093
TROJANS LOOK LIKE, AND THAT 

1015
00:37:09,093 --> 00:37:10,895
WILL ENABLE US TO GO TO THE 

1016
00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:13,064
NEXT STEP, PERHAPS A MISSION 

1017
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:15,099
LATER, TO ACTUALLY ORBIT ONE 

1018
00:37:15,099 --> 00:37:18,302
OF THE MORE INTERESTING ONES 

1019
00:37:18,302 --> 00:37:25,376
IN THE TROJAN REGIONS, AND 

1020
00:37:25,376 --> 00:37:26,544
KEN, IN COMPARING AND 

1021
00:37:26,544 --> 00:37:28,379
CONTRASTING, YEAH, IN THE 

1022
00:37:28,379 --> 00:37:30,147
OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM, THE 

1023
00:37:30,147 --> 00:37:32,650
COLLISIONAL SPEEDS WERE 

1024
00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:35,820
GENERALLY LOWER AND SO IN 

1025
00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:39,056
ARACOFF'S CASE, YOU HAD THE 

1026
00:37:39,056 --> 00:37:40,658
TWO SEPARATE BODIES THAT CAME 

1027
00:37:40,658 --> 00:37:41,959
TOGETHER IN A GENTLE 

1028
00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:43,060
COLLISION, THE SPEEDS AND THE 

1029
00:37:43,060 --> 00:37:44,962
REGIONS WHERE THE TROJANS 

1030
00:37:44,962 --> 00:37:47,798
FORMED WERE A BIT HIGHER, AND 

1031
00:37:47,798 --> 00:37:49,834
MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE PHYSICS 

1032
00:37:49,834 --> 00:37:52,703
OF THE COLLISION SAYS 

1033
00:37:52,703 --> 00:37:54,138
DIFFERENT FOR THAT REASON.

1034
00:37:54,138 --> 00:37:55,506
SO WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GOING 

1035
00:37:55,506 --> 00:37:57,708
TO SEE ON THESE OBJECTS.

1036
00:37:57,708 --> 00:38:00,344
THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY 

1037
00:38:00,344 --> 00:38:04,382
TO LOOK AT THEM CLOSE UP.

1038
00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:07,618
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY

1039
00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:07,952
NEAT.

1040
00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,288
IN THE 50 YEARS, 55 YEARS OF 

1041
00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:12,123
SPACE EXPLORATION BY ROBOTIC 

1042
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,091
SPACECRAFT, EVERY TIME WE GO 

1043
00:38:14,091 --> 00:38:16,060
TO A NEW BODY WE DISCOVER 

1044
00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:18,663
INCREDIBLE NEW THINGS.

1045
00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:20,164
SO I THINK THAT WILL PROVE 

1046
00:38:20,164 --> 00:38:22,333
TRUE IN THE CASE OF THE LUCY 

1047
00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:22,700
MISSION.

1048
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:23,901
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1049
00:38:23,901 --> 00:38:24,468
>> THANK YOU.

1050
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:26,203
>> OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES 

1051
00:38:26,203 --> 00:38:30,574
FROM MICHAEL GRESHCO, 

1052
00:38:30,574 --> 00:38:31,175
"NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC."

1053
00:38:31,175 --> 00:38:31,709
GO AHEAD, MICHAEL.

1054
00:38:31,709 --> 00:38:33,744
>> HI, I THINK THIS IS A 

1055
00:38:33,744 --> 00:38:37,248
QUESTION FOR MULTIPLE FOLKS.

1056
00:38:37,248 --> 00:38:40,418
YOU ALL HAVE ALLUDED TO THE 

1057
00:38:40,418 --> 00:38:41,986
FACT THAT THESE INSTRUMENTS 

1058
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:43,821
DRAW ON THE HERITAGE OF THE 

1059
00:38:43,821 --> 00:38:47,058
NEW HORIZONS MISSION.

1060
00:38:47,058 --> 00:38:49,327
I WAS WONDERING WITH THESE 

1061
00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:52,229
INSTRUMENTS AND IN SORT OF THE

1062
00:38:52,229 --> 00:38:53,764
PLANNED USE OF THEM, WHAT 

1063
00:38:53,764 --> 00:38:56,934
KINDS OF LESSONS LEARNED THERE

1064
00:38:56,934 --> 00:38:59,136
HAVE BEEN IN EARTH THE DESIGN 

1065
00:38:59,136 --> 00:39:02,306
OR THE BUILD OR EVEN SORT OF 

1066
00:39:02,306 --> 00:39:05,443
THE DATA PROCESSING LOOKING AT

1067
00:39:05,443 --> 00:39:09,146
NEW HORIZONS?

1068
00:39:09,146 --> 00:39:09,480
THANKS.

1069
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,049
>> I COULD START OFF WITH 

1070
00:39:12,049 --> 00:39:12,350
THAT.

1071
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,085
THANKS FOR THOSE QUESTIONS, 

1072
00:39:14,085 --> 00:39:14,819
MIKE.

1073
00:39:14,819 --> 00:39:18,522
YEAH, IN THE CASE OF LLORRI 

1074
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:21,592
COMPARED TO LUCY LLORRI, THERE

1075
00:39:21,592 --> 00:39:24,762
WERE SEVERAL LESSONS TO BE 

1076
00:39:24,762 --> 00:39:25,863
LEARNED, INCLUDING CHANGES TO 

1077
00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:28,065
THE WAY THE ELECTRONICS READS 

1078
00:39:28,065 --> 00:39:30,134
OUT DETECTOR.

1079
00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:31,402
WE HAD THESE LITTLE BLACK 

1080
00:39:31,402 --> 00:39:34,038
TAILS ON SOME OF THE NEW 

1081
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:37,241
HORIZONS IMAGES THAT WE TOOK 

1082
00:39:37,241 --> 00:39:38,976
AND ELIMINATED THAT.

1083
00:39:38,976 --> 00:39:39,810
THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

1084
00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:42,680
WE HAD TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE 

1085
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,482
TELESCOPE STRONGER THAN WHAT 

1086
00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:49,286
WE HAD FOR NEW HORIZONS 

1087
00:39:49,286 --> 00:39:50,354
BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR 

1088
00:39:50,354 --> 00:39:52,590
THE LAUNCH CONDITIONS WERE 

1089
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:55,693
MORE STRENUOUS, AND SO JUST 

1090
00:39:55,693 --> 00:40:00,030
WHEREVER -- AND THERE WAS 

1091
00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:03,968
MAYBE A PAGE OF VARIOUS 

1092
00:40:03,968 --> 00:40:05,035
LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED FROM 

1093
00:40:05,035 --> 00:40:07,905
NEW HORIZONS THAT WE TRY TO 

1094
00:40:07,905 --> 00:40:10,474
APPLY TO THE LUCY MISSION, SO 

1095
00:40:10,474 --> 00:40:14,044
IT'S NICE WHEN YOU CAN DO THAT

1096
00:40:14,044 --> 00:40:15,613
AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, AND 

1097
00:40:15,613 --> 00:40:17,515
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKE 

1098
00:40:17,515 --> 00:40:22,686
SURE THAT WE REALLY EXECUTED 

1099
00:40:22,686 --> 00:40:24,088
SUCCESSFULLY IN THE NEXT YEAR.

1100
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,157
>> YEAH, AND AS FAR AS RALPH 

1101
00:40:26,157 --> 00:40:27,591
IS CONCERNED, THERE ACTUALLY 

1102
00:40:27,591 --> 00:40:30,161
ARE A FAIR NUMBER OF THINGS.

1103
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:32,730
FIRST ONE IS WE EXTENDED THE 

1104
00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:34,265
WAVELENGTH REGION, SO LOOK IN 

1105
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,367
THE AREA WHERE THE 

1106
00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:38,269
ORGANIC-TYPE MOLECULES ARE BY 

1107
00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:39,136
GOING TO THE LONGER 

1108
00:40:39,136 --> 00:40:39,570
WAVELENGTH.

1109
00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:40,871
WE ALSO MADE IT SO WHEN WE DO 

1110
00:40:40,871 --> 00:40:44,708
THE MEASUREMENTS IN THE COLORS

1111
00:40:44,708 --> 00:40:47,478
USING MVIC, WE CAN SET THE 

1112
00:40:47,478 --> 00:40:49,413
INTEGRATION TIME OF EACH COLOR

1113
00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:50,548
SEPARATELY SO WHEN WE'RE 

1114
00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:52,516
SCANNING THROUGH, WE CAN MAKE 

1115
00:40:52,516 --> 00:40:53,984
SURE WE GET GOOD SIGNAL TO 

1116
00:40:53,984 --> 00:40:56,821
NOISE ON ALL OF THEM BUT ALSO 

1117
00:40:56,821 --> 00:40:59,457
MAKE SURE NONE OF THEM ARE 

1118
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:00,958
SATURATED, AND ALSO ADDED A 

1119
00:41:00,958 --> 00:41:03,360
MIRROR THAT SCANS THE IMAGE 

1120
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,198
ACROSS THE FOCAL PLANES OF 

1121
00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:09,633
MVIC AND LEISA AND THE MIRROR 

1122
00:41:09,633 --> 00:41:11,202
IS BETTER CONTROLLED IN TERMS 

1123
00:41:11,202 --> 00:41:12,970
OF HOW QUICKLY IT MOVES, HOW 

1124
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,940
WELL WE KNOW IT MOVES, AND SO 

1125
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:16,874
ON AND SO FORTH.

1126
00:41:16,874 --> 00:41:19,743
THAT ALLOWS US TO SCAN FASTER.

1127
00:41:19,743 --> 00:41:22,813
WE HAVE MORE PIXELS TO SCAN 

1128
00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:24,181
FASTER AND GET THE SAME 

1129
00:41:24,181 --> 00:41:25,316
INTEGRATION TIME AND GET OUR 

1130
00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:26,517
SAME INTENSITY.

1131
00:41:26,517 --> 00:41:28,419
SO ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS 

1132
00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:32,823
AND THEN ALSO ADDED IN SOME ON

1133
00:41:32,823 --> 00:41:34,592
BOARD MEMORY, SO WE DON'T HAVE

1134
00:41:34,592 --> 00:41:36,494
TO WORRY ABOUT HOW MUCH DATA 

1135
00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:39,230
WE'RE TAKING WHEN WE DO A 

1136
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:40,331
FLY-BY AND DUMP TO THE 

1137
00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:42,533
SPACECRAFT RIGHT AWAY, WE CAN 

1138
00:41:42,533 --> 00:41:45,336
HOLD ONTO IT FOR A WHILE, MAKE

1139
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,538
SURE IT'S THERE AND DUMP IT 

1140
00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:47,872
LATER.  

1141
00:41:47,872 --> 00:41:50,574
AND THERE ARE OTHER OPTICS 

1142
00:41:50,574 --> 00:41:50,941
CHANGES.

1143
00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:52,476
THAT'S THE THING, WE MADE IT 

1144
00:41:52,476 --> 00:41:54,678
SO WE CAN DO FASTER, MORE 

1145
00:41:54,678 --> 00:41:58,015
UNIFORMED SCANS WITH LONGER 

1146
00:41:58,015 --> 00:41:58,482
WAVELENGTHS.

1147
00:41:58,482 --> 00:42:01,185
>> I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE OTHER 

1148
00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:02,686
THING, SO WE ALSO ACROSS BOTH 

1149
00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:04,922
INSTRUMENTS ADDED WHAT WE CALL

1150
00:42:04,922 --> 00:42:08,325
A TACTICAL UPDATE PARAMETER.

1151
00:42:08,325 --> 00:42:10,060
SO WE DON'T HAVE GREAT 

1152
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:13,397
KNOWLEDGE OF HOW BRIGHT THESE 

1153
00:42:13,397 --> 00:42:14,798
OBJECTS ARE, WHEN YOU'RE 

1154
00:42:14,798 --> 00:42:17,134
LOOKING AWAY FROM THE SUN, 

1155
00:42:17,134 --> 00:42:18,936
BECAUSE FROM EARTH'S VANTAGE 

1156
00:42:18,936 --> 00:42:20,437
POINT, YOU'RE ALMOST ALWAYS 

1157
00:42:20,437 --> 00:42:21,639
LOOKING NEAR NOONTIME ON THE 

1158
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:23,974
TROJAN ASTEROIDS, AND WE'RE 

1159
00:42:23,974 --> 00:42:26,577
GOING TO BE APPROACHING AT THE

1160
00:42:26,577 --> 00:42:28,045
DAY-NIGHT TERMINATOR, SO THE 

1161
00:42:28,045 --> 00:42:29,046
LOCATION BETWEEN DAY AND NIGHT

1162
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:31,682
ON THE OBJECTS, AND THAT'S THE

1163
00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:32,883
ANGLE WE'RE APPROACHING AT, 

1164
00:42:32,883 --> 00:42:35,486
AND WE PUT IN A TACTICAL 

1165
00:42:35,486 --> 00:42:37,388
UPDATE PARAMETER WHICH ALLOWS 

1166
00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:40,224
US TO CHANGE THE EXPOSURE TIME

1167
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:41,992
ON SELECTED OBSERVATION 

1168
00:42:41,992 --> 00:42:43,861
PHYSICAL WE DECIDE, AS WE GET 

1169
00:42:43,861 --> 00:42:46,564
CLOSER, THAT WE NEED A LITTLE 

1170
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,766
BIT LONGER EXPOSURE OR SHORTER

1171
00:42:48,766 --> 00:42:50,568
EXPOSURE TIME TO ADJUST THE 

1172
00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:52,870
SIGNAL AND NOISE OF OUR 

1173
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:53,837
OBSERVATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE 

1174
00:42:53,837 --> 00:42:56,974
TO KEEP THIS IN MIND, IT'S A 

1175
00:42:56,974 --> 00:42:57,908
RECONNAISSANCE MISSION.

1176
00:42:57,908 --> 00:42:59,476
WE'VE NEVER SEEN THESE OBJECTS

1177
00:42:59,476 --> 00:43:00,277
UPCLOSE, AND THIS IS ONE OF 

1178
00:43:00,277 --> 00:43:02,580
THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO MAKE

1179
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:05,849
SURE THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST AND

1180
00:43:05,849 --> 00:43:07,151
RESILIENT CONCEPT OF 

1181
00:43:07,151 --> 00:43:10,421
OPERATIONS SO WE CAN BE 

1182
00:43:10,421 --> 00:43:14,358
SUCCESSFUL IN OUR SCIENTIFIC 

1183
00:43:14,358 --> 00:43:14,692
RETURN.

1184
00:43:14,692 --> 00:43:15,059
>> OKAY.

1185
00:43:15,059 --> 00:43:16,360
OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM 

1186
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,828
SOCIAL MEDIA.

1187
00:43:17,828 --> 00:43:20,431
ELIZABETH ON TWITTER ASKS, HOW

1188
00:43:20,431 --> 00:43:23,701
WILL YOU FIND OUT WHERE IN THE

1189
00:43:23,701 --> 00:43:25,135
SOLAR SYSTEM OR POSSIBLY 

1190
00:43:25,135 --> 00:43:26,904
BEYOND THE TROJANS ORIGINATED 

1191
00:43:26,904 --> 00:43:28,372
AND HOW THEY GOT TO WHERE THEY

1192
00:43:28,372 --> 00:43:29,406
ARE TODAY?

1193
00:43:29,406 --> 00:43:32,009
ALSO, ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR 

1194
00:43:32,009 --> 00:43:36,580
LUCY ONCE PRIMARY MISSION IS 

1195
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:36,981
COMPLETE?  

1196
00:43:36,981 --> 00:43:38,616
>> I CAN START AND YOU GUYS 

1197
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:39,717
CAN CHIME IN.

1198
00:43:39,717 --> 00:43:42,219
I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING

1199
00:43:42,219 --> 00:43:42,987
TO SAY THERE.

1200
00:43:42,987 --> 00:43:46,557
SO THERE'S LOTS OF INDICATORS 

1201
00:43:46,557 --> 00:43:48,492
ABOUT WHERE OBJECTS FORMED IN 

1202
00:43:48,492 --> 00:43:50,894
THE SOLAR SYSTEM.

1203
00:43:50,894 --> 00:43:52,863
THINGS LIKE, IF YOU SEE ICES 

1204
00:43:52,863 --> 00:43:53,631
ON THE SURFACE, AND THERE'S 

1205
00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,532
DIFFERENT TYPES OF ICES, WATER

1206
00:43:55,532 --> 00:43:57,935
ICE AND METHANE ICE AND OTHER 

1207
00:43:57,935 --> 00:44:00,237
ICES, AND MANY OF THOSE ARE 

1208
00:44:00,237 --> 00:44:01,839
REALLY ONLY STABLE MUCH 

1209
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:03,474
FURTHER OUT IN THE SOLAR 

1210
00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:04,975
SYSTEM THAN THE TROJAN 

1211
00:44:04,975 --> 00:44:06,276
ASTEROIDS ARE AT NOW.

1212
00:44:06,276 --> 00:44:09,213
SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK INSIDE, 

1213
00:44:09,213 --> 00:44:11,482
SAY, A FRESH CRATER LIKE I WAS

1214
00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:13,317
TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, A 

1215
00:44:13,317 --> 00:44:15,619
CRATER LESS THAN 100 MILLION 

1216
00:44:15,619 --> 00:44:17,421
YEARS OLD AND WERE TO SEE SOME

1217
00:44:17,421 --> 00:44:21,392
SPECIFIC ICES, THAT WOULD BE A

1218
00:44:21,392 --> 00:44:23,927
GREAT INDICATOR THAT THE 

1219
00:44:23,927 --> 00:44:25,963
TROJAN ASTEROIDS FORMED 

1220
00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:27,131
FURTHER AWAY.

1221
00:44:27,131 --> 00:44:28,532
DENSITY IS ANOTHER SUCH 

1222
00:44:28,532 --> 00:44:30,034
INDICATOR, BUT THERE'S NO 

1223
00:44:30,034 --> 00:44:31,468
SINGLE MEASUREMENT THAT WILL 

1224
00:44:31,468 --> 00:44:32,970
TELL US EXACTLY.

1225
00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:35,673
THAT'S WHY WE NEED A SUITE OF 

1226
00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:44,448
INSTRUMENTS TO PUT THE PUZZLE 

1227
00:44:44,448 --> 00:44:44,848
TOGETHER.

1228
00:44:44,848 --> 00:44:46,650
>> WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO 

1229
00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:47,084
CHIME IN?  

1230
00:44:47,084 --> 00:44:49,520
>> CATHY DID A GREAT JOB.

1231
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,689
>> CATHY TOOK CARE OF ALL OF 

1232
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:51,955
IT.

1233
00:44:51,955 --> 00:44:53,991
>> ONE EXTRA THING IS A LOT OF

1234
00:44:53,991 --> 00:44:55,259
THE PUBLIC MIGHT NOT RECOGNIZE

1235
00:44:55,259 --> 00:44:56,460
THERE'S BEEN A REVOLUTION IN 

1236
00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:59,329
OUR IDEAS HOW THE SOLAR SYSTEM

1237
00:44:59,329 --> 00:44:59,663
FORMED.

1238
00:44:59,663 --> 00:45:01,131
IN THE FIRST TEN BILLION YEARS

1239
00:45:01,131 --> 00:45:02,733
OR SO, THAT INSTEAD OF THE 

1240
00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:03,934
OBJECTS IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM 

1241
00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:07,137
BEING WHERE THEY ARE NOW, IT 

1242
00:45:07,137 --> 00:45:10,074
WAS ACTUALLY A LOT OF RADIAL 

1243
00:45:10,074 --> 00:45:11,775
MIGRATION, THE GIANT PLANETS 

1244
00:45:11,775 --> 00:45:13,377
CAME IN TOWARDS THE SUN AND 

1245
00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:16,880
BACK OUT AGAIN, REALLY MIXING 

1246
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,816
EVERYTHING UP, AND YOU KNOW, 

1247
00:45:18,816 --> 00:45:20,050
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE THINK

1248
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:23,487
WE HAVE SUCH DIVERSITY IN THE 

1249
00:45:23,487 --> 00:45:23,854
TROJANS.

1250
00:45:23,854 --> 00:45:24,855
IT COLLECTED IN THESE 

1251
00:45:24,855 --> 00:45:27,591
GRAVITATIONAL RUTS, SO TO 

1252
00:45:27,591 --> 00:45:29,359
SPEAK, OBJECTS THAT FORMED IN 

1253
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:32,262
MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DISTANCES 

1254
00:45:32,262 --> 00:45:35,532
FROM THE SUN, AND, IN FACT, A 

1255
00:45:35,532 --> 00:45:38,202
PRIMARY REASON WHY THE TROJANS

1256
00:45:38,202 --> 00:45:39,236
ARE SO INTERESTING.

1257
00:45:39,236 --> 00:45:40,404
>> OKAY.

1258
00:45:40,404 --> 00:45:43,407
WE HAVE ELIZABETH RAIN FROM 

1259
00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:45,142
SCI-FI WIRE IS ASKING, IF SOME

1260
00:45:45,142 --> 00:45:47,444
OF THE TROJANS WERE PIECES OF 

1261
00:45:47,444 --> 00:45:49,913
FORMER PLANETS, HOW WILL YOU 

1262
00:45:49,913 --> 00:45:53,417
BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OUT?

1263
00:45:53,417 --> 00:45:56,887
TOSS THAT OVER TO KEITH.

1264
00:45:56,887 --> 00:45:58,155
>> I DON'T THINK -- SO IT'S 

1265
00:45:58,155 --> 00:45:59,723
SORT OF THE OPPOSITE WAY WE 

1266
00:45:59,723 --> 00:46:01,258
THINK ABOUT THEM NOW, AND I'LL

1267
00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:02,960
ADD ON A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT 

1268
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,261
CATHY WAS SAYING.

1269
00:46:04,261 --> 00:46:06,463
WHEN WE FLY BY, THERE ISN'T 

1270
00:46:06,463 --> 00:46:08,065
GOING TO BE A LABEL ON THE 

1271
00:46:08,065 --> 00:46:10,300
OBJECT SAYING MADE IN THE 

1272
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,836
OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM WITH, A 

1273
00:46:12,836 --> 00:46:13,237
DATE STAMP.

1274
00:46:13,237 --> 00:46:15,606
SO IT REALLY IS PUTTING 

1275
00:46:15,606 --> 00:46:16,874
TOGETHER CLUES AND REALLY ALL 

1276
00:46:16,874 --> 00:46:18,809
WE CAN DO IS GET ALL THE DATA 

1277
00:46:18,809 --> 00:46:21,111
THAT WE CAN GET, BUT WE DO 

1278
00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:23,747
HAVE AN EVOLVING AND PRETTY 

1279
00:46:23,747 --> 00:46:24,548
GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW 

1280
00:46:24,548 --> 00:46:26,416
GIANT PLANETS AND PLANETS IN 

1281
00:46:26,416 --> 00:46:29,419
THE INNER SOLAR SYSTEM FORMED 

1282
00:46:29,419 --> 00:46:30,821
AND WE DON'T THINK THAT THESE 

1283
00:46:30,821 --> 00:46:33,824
OBJECTS IN THE OUTER 

1284
00:46:33,824 --> 00:46:35,425
PROTOPLANETARY EVER FORMED A 

1285
00:46:35,425 --> 00:46:35,793
PLANET.

1286
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:37,694
THEY WOULD HAVE IF THEY HAD 

1287
00:46:37,694 --> 00:46:39,763
BEEN LEFT ALONE LONG ENOUGH, 

1288
00:46:39,763 --> 00:46:41,365
BUT WHEN THE GIANT PLANETS 

1289
00:46:41,365 --> 00:46:43,400
STARTED MOVING AROUND AND 

1290
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,102
SHUFFLED UP REMAINING STUFF, 

1291
00:46:45,102 --> 00:46:46,470
DATA GOT SCATTERED.

1292
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:47,805
MOST OF THEM ARE LOST 

1293
00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:48,739
COMPLETELY FROM THE SOLAR 

1294
00:46:48,739 --> 00:46:51,008
SYSTEM, SOME ENDED UP IN THE 

1295
00:46:51,008 --> 00:46:51,809
KUIPER BELT.

1296
00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:53,377
SOME GOT TRAPPED IN THE 

1297
00:46:53,377 --> 00:46:54,578
TROJANS, BUT PIECING THAT 

1298
00:46:54,578 --> 00:46:56,246
STORY TOGETHER AND LOOKING FOR

1299
00:46:56,246 --> 00:46:57,981
EVIDENCE THAT EITHER SUPPORTS 

1300
00:46:57,981 --> 00:47:00,684
THAT OR REJECTS THAT 

1301
00:47:00,684 --> 00:47:01,518
HYPOTHESIS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE 

1302
00:47:01,518 --> 00:47:03,187
GOING TO DO AND WE'RE GOING TO

1303
00:47:03,187 --> 00:47:05,956
GATHER THE DATA AND SEE WHERE 

1304
00:47:05,956 --> 00:47:09,092
THE DATA LEAD US.

1305
00:47:09,092 --> 00:47:10,494
>> OKAY.

1306
00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:11,929
FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AGAIN, HOW 

1307
00:47:11,929 --> 00:47:14,198
CLOSE WILL LUCY GET TO THE 

1308
00:47:14,198 --> 00:47:16,700
EARTH WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR 

1309
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:20,470
GRAVITY ASSIST?

1310
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:20,838
CATHY?  

1311
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:24,341
>> WE HAVE THREE EARTH GRAVITY

1312
00:47:24,341 --> 00:47:26,777
ASSISTS, AS WE'RE FLYING ON 

1313
00:47:26,777 --> 00:47:28,812
OUR TRAJECTORY OF NEARLY 4 

1314
00:47:28,812 --> 00:47:30,914
BILLION MILES, AND OUR FIRST 

1315
00:47:30,914 --> 00:47:32,816
EARTH GRAVITY ASSIST IS THE 

1316
00:47:32,816 --> 00:47:33,250
CLOSEST.

1317
00:47:33,250 --> 00:47:35,519
WE COME BACK NEAR THE EARTH 

1318
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,688
ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW, AND 

1319
00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:41,625
WE'RE GOING TO FLY BY AT 300 

1320
00:47:41,625 --> 00:47:44,761
KILOMETERS BOTH THE EARTH'S 

1321
00:47:44,761 --> 00:47:45,128
SURFACE.

1322
00:47:45,128 --> 00:47:46,530
THIS IS VERY CLOSE.

1323
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:50,434
IT'S UNDER MANY SATELLITES, 

1324
00:47:50,434 --> 00:47:52,269
UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE 

1325
00:47:52,269 --> 00:47:52,636
STATION.

1326
00:47:52,636 --> 00:47:53,370
UNDER THE HUBBLE SPACE 

1327
00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:53,770
TELESCOPE.

1328
00:47:53,770 --> 00:47:55,606
SO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK 

1329
00:47:55,606 --> 00:47:57,207
BY, WE'RE GOING TO FLY BY AND 

1330
00:47:57,207 --> 00:47:58,308
HEAD OUT.

1331
00:47:58,308 --> 00:48:00,110
ACTUALLY, I'M HOPING TO MAYBE 

1332
00:48:00,110 --> 00:48:02,846
BE ABLE TO GO NEAR WHERE IT 

1333
00:48:02,846 --> 00:48:04,548
FLIES PAST AND LOOK UP AT THE 

1334
00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:07,551
SKY AND SEE LUCY FLYING BY A 

1335
00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:09,119
YEAR FROM NOW.

1336
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:10,921
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING THAT 

1337
00:48:10,921 --> 00:48:12,556
OUR SPACECRAFT WILL CYCLE FROM

1338
00:48:12,556 --> 00:48:14,324
THE INNER SOLAR SYSTEM AND THE

1339
00:48:14,324 --> 00:48:16,393
OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM, AND IT'S 

1340
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,662
GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT 

1341
00:48:18,662 --> 00:48:21,365
IN A SIX-YEAR CADENCE.

1342
00:48:21,365 --> 00:48:21,865
>> OKAY.

1343
00:48:21,865 --> 00:48:23,867
THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE 

1344
00:48:23,867 --> 00:48:24,902
FOR TODAY.

1345
00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:28,572
THANK YOU TO THE MEDIA AND TO 

1346
00:48:28,572 --> 00:48:30,374
OUR ENTHUSIASTS ON SOCIAL 

1347
00:48:30,374 --> 00:48:31,541
MEDIA FOR THE QUESTIONS AND TO

1348
00:48:31,541 --> 00:48:32,309
OUR PANEL.

1349
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:34,177
PLEASE JOIN US AT 3:00 P.M. 

1350
00:48:34,177 --> 00:48:35,812
EASTERN FOR THE LUCY 

1351
00:48:35,812 --> 00:48:37,381
ENGINEERING BRIEFING.  

1352
00:48:37,381 --> 00:48:39,583
YOU CAN FIND ALL OF OUR FULL 

1353
00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:41,118
LUCY PROGRAMMING LINEUP AND 

1354
00:48:41,118 --> 00:48:45,155
MISSION UPDATES AT 

1355
00:48:45,155 --> 00:48:45,656
NASA.GOV/LUCY.

1356
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:46,890
YOU CAN ALSO KEEP THE 

1357
00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:51,962
CONVERSATION GOING ON SOCIAL 

1358
00:48:51,962 --> 00:48:52,996
MEDIA, USING THE #LUCY 

1359
00:48:52,996 --> 00:48:54,698
MISSION, AND BE SURE TO SET 

1360
00:48:54,698 --> 00:48:56,733
YOUR ALARMS EARLY TO WATCH 

1361
00:48:56,733 --> 00:48:58,435
LUCY LAUNCH ON SATURDAY 

1362
00:48:58,435 --> 00:49:00,137
MORNING OCTOBER 16.

1363
00:49:00,137 --> 00:49:02,406
LIVE COVERAGE BEGINS AT 5:00 

1364
00:49:02,406 --> 00:49:05,142
A.M. EASTERN WITH LIFTOFF 

1365
00:49:05,142 --> 00:49:08,045
SCHEDULED FOR 5:34 A.M. 

1366
00:49:08,045 --> 00:49:08,412
EASTERN.

1367
00:49:08,412 --> 00:49:09,613
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING 

1368
00:49:09,613 --> 00:49:09,913
US.

1369
00:49:09,913 --> 00:49:13,283
GO NASA AND GO LUCY.
