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Hello and welcome to NASA

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Science Live, I am Molly

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McKinney, a cohost for today,

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as we join you from the Hampton 

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Convention center, right here

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 in Hampton, Virginia,

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and cover day one

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of the 2021 Moon to Mars

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Ice and Prospecting Challenge

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brought to you by NASA.

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What's going on behind me?

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Why don't you take a look?

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Students have gathered from ten

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different universities acros

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across the country to

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test their original technology

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to solve a

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lunar and Martian exploration

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dilemma, which is how to access

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subsurface ice and melt it into

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water.

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Why is this important to NASA?

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As we look forward to the

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Artemis program and the moon

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and even one day, crewed

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missions to Mars, being able to

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access resources like water will

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be crucial for humans to survive

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on other worlds.

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So teams have been

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tasked with designing an ice

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and water harvesting system

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for use on the Moon or Mars.

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Not an easy task.

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And today they test the system

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out in a head to head

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competition.

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We are in person this year,

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We have jumped through a

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lot of hurdles to make that

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happen and we are following very

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strict COVID protocols including

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everyone wearing face mask, we

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are all fully vaccinated or

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proof of negative COVID test in

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hand.

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throughout the show today, send

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them in with the #, #askNASA or

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leave a message in the comment

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from, and we will do our best to

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get answers for you today.

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It is live show, one of the

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many perks to

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it being live.

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I am sure you hear the

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excitement it is a live show so

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drills are happening as we talk

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but before we get to the

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competition let me explain a

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little bit more of this process

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so you understand how this

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Moon and Mars Ice Prospecting

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challenge works.

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You will see these blue bins at

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each one of the stations and

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situated at the very bottom of

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these bins is a block of water

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is for teams to get drilling

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apparatus and systems all the

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way down to the water ice and

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water from the ice and that is

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these buckets come into play as

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special guest that my cohost has

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let's take it over to you.

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your cohost for today's moon to

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Mars challenge coming to you

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live from the Hampton Roads

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In that you feel the excitement

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in the air as the teams worked

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diligently to extract water from

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these bins, I am so excited

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because I am joined by Alejandra

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thank you for joining us today.

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>> Thank you for having me.

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>> So I understand that NASA is

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returning to the moon, could you

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tell me more about this exciting

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endeavor.

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Artemis program, we are

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returning to the moon after 50

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years of robotic exploration.

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This time with sustained

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presence we are partnering up

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with industries in ways we have

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expanding human exploration.

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>> That is so exciting.

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>> So how does this challenge

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help us to achieve the goal of

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returning to the moon?

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pole where humans have never

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been before so for example one

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of the challenges we do not

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really know what the service

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surface is made of so one of the

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challenges they have here is

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being able to demonstrate the

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capability of where they could

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have a digital cord as they

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drilling to them and that will

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be of great capability to

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explore the moon.

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>> Why are they interested in

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harvesting the water on the moon

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or Mars.

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ways for human exploration.

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could use it and it could

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support the day-to-day

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operations of humans in those

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locations and you could use it

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sustainable presence in these

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what do we know so far about

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water on the moon and Mars?

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impact mission it identifies

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shadows of the moon similarly,

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shown there could be what ice

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resource utilization what is it

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and why is it so important.

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resources on site.

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missions, we need more and more

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of everything with consumables

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more of a challenge in terms of

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if we bring everything from

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Earth so the question is could

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we use things on Mars and water

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is a crucial thing if you could

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use it then that is good as far

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as operations and potentially

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for refueling.

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the challenges of having to take

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that it is all about students.

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and ultimately having them aware

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of what the challenges are in

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getting their ideas on these

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things will be critical as they

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drilling systems and people are

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already getting water and it is

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at the design.

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the designs in action.

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how they have been refining and

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unique design choices on how

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and so forth and they also do

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some interesting trade studies

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were how do you extract the

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ideas and I am excited to see

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have some questions coming in

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from our #askNASA and you could

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So, Alejandra Emily on YouTube

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asks, are their future plans to

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since the moon's gravity well,

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that is being conducted,

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obviously, there are benefits

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to be a filtration system, so I

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will go with maybe.

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>> May be, okay we will see, so

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we have one more hour final ask

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a question for you, Scott on

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YouTube wants to know more about

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the new by permission which is

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scouts for water on the moon and

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actually Scott we just selected

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the landing spot on Monday so

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that is equipped great question

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I love this.

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So could you tell me more about

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how that ties into the

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competition today.

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>> Yes the landing

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slight-landing site was selected

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it is near the South Pole so one

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of the challenges is that we do

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know that there is water there

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but we do not know what

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concentration or distribution is

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there so Viper is going to

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answer those very questions and

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give us a better idea and a

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resource mapping and based off

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of that it will give us an idea

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of how to extract the water from

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those areas which is in turn

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going to Ghitis and develop this

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technology that you see today.

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>> That is so exciting I am

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really excited about all of

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these missions which we have

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going on at NASA.

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So thank you for joining us

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today.

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>> Of course thank you for

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helping me.

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>> Molly has exciting things to

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show you all in the pit.

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But first, let's learn a little

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bit more about the upcoming

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rover.

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>> We know from decades of study

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that the moon has water but

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where and how much in 2023 a

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robotic rover explores the

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moon's surface in search of

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water and ice, the moon rover

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will perform the first resource

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mapping resource on a

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netherworld with advanced

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instruments and tools to

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determine the location and

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concentration of water on the

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moon.

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>> Touche send this to the moon

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this is part of the surface.

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They are to the surface of the

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move.

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This represents our development

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we are developing each

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instrument I had of it.

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This is truly creative they will

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launch it to the moon South Pole

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which is where no human or rover

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has ever been before.

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>> The survey will provide

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scientists with the most

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detailed view of the water to

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date and.to spots where water

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could be harvested by future

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astronauts.

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>> It will be the first research

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mapping mission on the surface

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of another body in a represents

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a new kind of mission that

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mission in which the objectives

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will advance science in human

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exploration are you closer than

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ever the measurements of the

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instruments will help us to

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understand the source and

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distribution of the water and

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other volatiles giving us

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insight into the evolution of

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the moon and the mars system,

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the water is also a precious

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resource that could be extracted

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to have the exploration young.

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But what we learn from Viper

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brings us a step closer to give

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us a human presence on the moon.

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Go team Viper, we are proud of

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you all.

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For those of you just joining as

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we are in line for the coverage

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of 2021 moon to Mars ice in

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prospecting challenge.

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As you look around the pit area

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today you will notice that each

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of these teams have a different

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design which is unique to the

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team and the University.

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Each team brings a different

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idea to the table in that

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diversity of ideas which we get

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including students in

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competition like this really

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really expands our understanding

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not just for NASA but as a

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global science community.

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This is the fifth year of this

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competition and every year we

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learn something new, what worked

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or didn't work and this

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collective knowledge from

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student led ideas could really

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pave the way for future crude

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admissions to places like Mars

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in the moon.

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Today is day NO. 1 of the shows

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competition and that teams

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operate their systems for the

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first time.

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I was talking to a couple of

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those teams yesterday in the

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systems had never traveled

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before.

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So, it is always a little

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nerve-racking power in the zone

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for the first time.

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Most of the university students

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today use a drill to dig through

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the simulated soil to get to

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that ice below it, and along the

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way to the ice team is have to

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collect data about the layers

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they are drooling through how

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many layers there are, how thick

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they are and how dense they are

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in the use this information to

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create additional core which

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they are judged on at the end of

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the competition.

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Then to extract the water below,

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they have converged a coupon

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belting a pool of ice underneath

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the surface in pumping it out

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rather than trying to extract

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the ice from the layers up

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above.

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And that you all understand a

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little bit about the competition

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let's talk about the teams on

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the floor.

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Our first one up here is from

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the Institute of technology now

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I do not even need the cue card

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for this one, Stephen it is nice

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to meet you.

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Tell us about your design and if

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you modeled and off of anything.

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>> This is in very much like a

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perimeter we translate our

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extract her back and forth,

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forward and back and up and

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down.

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Our drilling is off-the-shelf

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percussion drill which is half

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liter long drill bit wild

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drilling through these layers,

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we used this to map out our

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visual cord so we measure things

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such as the weight, the speeds,

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RPM, current voltage in all of

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that which goes into our

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calculations and we calculate

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the hardness of the layers in

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after we're done, we retract the

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drill moving over in lower it

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into the hole in which is

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750 watts heater and a pump

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which is pretty strong.

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We trade this a while we are

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extracting the water we also

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simultaneously further melt the

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ice and then once we collect

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that water it goes through the

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sand filter and into our

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crushing container.

482
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>> It sounds like you had

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thought this through and your

484
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team has done this before what

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are the challenges and how have

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you compensated for this as you

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compete.

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>> Well two years ago we faced

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the issue of over melting the

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whole, so as they melted the ice

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water was leaking out the side

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of it and making it un-

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retrievable.

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So to fix this, we installed a

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sensor so that tracks the water

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level of the ice as we melted so

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with this rate of penetration in

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the time that the pump is

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running we estimate a radius of

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the hole that we melted so that

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we could map out the ice as well

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as the overburden.

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>> Having an address that how do

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you feel about your odds of

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winning.

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>> We do feel good we have a few

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more issues to work out, but

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once we get going I think we

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will go strong.

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>> We are going to be rooting

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for you I will let you get back

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to it.

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>> Okay let's go over here we

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have warmer team to interview.

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This is a and D.

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Correct so tell me a little bit

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about your design and how long

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you have been working on it.

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>> This project we have been

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working on over a year and the

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main attraction is it is a

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consecutive structure which

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consists on aluminum rods, and

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polyethylene's a 18th of the

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weight of a steel cable and

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50 tons of strength compared to

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steel cable in tension.

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So, what you really want to do

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is light weight.

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So this is our first idea and we

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went with that, so we have 3-1

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system so extract and heat.

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So that system was integrated

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all throughout and it was a

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great opportunity to do all

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things without moving the drill

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you just go down once and stay

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down there for the entire

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process and lastly we have

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mountain structure which is low

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friction to move that rail

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around in case we needed to make

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another hole as well.

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>> You did this in the midst of

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a global pandemic like the other

546
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teams, how did that posed

547
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challenges for your team.

548
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>> The main thing was

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communication in manufacturing

550
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so communicating with our team

551
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was slower everyone is at home,

552
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the way we overcame this was we

553
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pulled together knowing that if

554
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you didn't do it yourself at

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home someone else could do your

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job so we all came together and

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did their part knowing that we

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were counting on them to do with

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the stuff at home and the

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machine shop was closed so we

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bring into issues there to adapt

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and overcome and make sure that

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we tackle the task at front of

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us.

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>> How do you think you'd did to

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be here today.

567
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>> We did a great job in my

568
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opinion we have diverse group of

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engineers and mechanical

570
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engineers, so everyone has

571
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different disciplines and

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backgrounds give us the edge of

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covering all of our bases and

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have different viewpoints and

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present this here in NASA.

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>> We are excited to have you

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here.

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Good luck.

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I think you will hear that,

580
00:20:20,736 --> 00:20:22,938
throughout this competition that

581
00:20:22,938 --> 00:20:25,340
COVID-19 pandemic those hurdles

582
00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:27,676
it is a difficult challenge to

583
00:20:27,676 --> 00:20:29,177
begin with and then add in

584
00:20:29,177 --> 00:20:30,746
manufacturers being closed in

585
00:20:30,746 --> 00:20:33,649
restricted access a lot of those

586
00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:35,684
resources they plan to use right

587
00:20:35,684 --> 00:20:38,353
here the use would rather than

588
00:20:38,353 --> 00:20:39,421
aluminum so we are waiting spend

589
00:20:39,421 --> 00:20:41,156
spread send something to space

590
00:20:41,156 --> 00:20:43,525
made of wood so now let's give

591
00:20:43,525 --> 00:20:46,161
us the background on this.

592
00:20:46,161 --> 00:20:50,465
>> Virtual prospect challenge is

593
00:20:50,465 --> 00:20:52,000
coming up with novel solutions

594
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,104
to extract the moon and Mars.

595
00:20:56,104 --> 00:21:00,575
They are the novel ways that

596
00:21:00,575 --> 00:21:02,911
offer unique challenges.

597
00:21:02,911 --> 00:21:04,546
>> The unique thing about it was

598
00:21:04,546 --> 00:21:08,550
the overburden and taking out

599
00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:11,119
the dirt.

600
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,822
>> There is a test bed and it is

601
00:21:13,822 --> 00:21:15,257
circulated back down and it

602
00:21:15,257 --> 00:21:17,926
heats up the rice around it.

603
00:21:17,926 --> 00:21:25,734
>> It articulates out.

604
00:21:25,734 --> 00:21:29,071
>> It is not like a housing

605
00:21:29,071 --> 00:21:30,639
structure.

606
00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:31,974
>> What we were trying to do is

607
00:21:31,974 --> 00:21:33,775
to incorporate laser heating

608
00:21:33,775 --> 00:21:36,511
into our system for the

609
00:21:36,511 --> 00:21:39,581
extraction of water.

610
00:21:39,581 --> 00:21:41,083
>> In light of the pandemic

611
00:21:41,083 --> 00:21:43,051
universities restricted access

612
00:21:43,051 --> 00:21:51,159
on facilities.

613
00:21:51,159 --> 00:21:53,261
We were in the middle of putting

614
00:21:53,261 --> 00:21:54,963
this together and everything

615
00:21:54,963 --> 00:21:56,565
hit.

616
00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:58,166
>> When spring break happened

617
00:21:58,166 --> 00:21:59,634
everything with COVID started to

618
00:21:59,634 --> 00:22:07,009
ramp up.

619
00:22:07,009 --> 00:22:08,577
We thought that we would just be

620
00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,812
able to do design work for a

621
00:22:10,812 --> 00:22:12,681
couple of weeks and then get

622
00:22:12,681 --> 00:22:15,484
back into our lab again but we

623
00:22:15,484 --> 00:22:17,119
knew that wasn't going to happen

624
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,820
so then we collected all of our

625
00:22:18,820 --> 00:22:20,355
supplies and threw them in the

626
00:22:20,355 --> 00:22:22,891
back of one of our trucks.

627
00:22:22,891 --> 00:22:25,027
>> We took all of these parts

628
00:22:25,027 --> 00:22:31,099
from our machine shop.

629
00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:33,335
>> We were actually a few hours

630
00:22:33,335 --> 00:22:34,970
before they locked the doors for

631
00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:38,774
the next three months.

632
00:22:38,774 --> 00:22:43,879
>> We lost what we had.

633
00:22:43,879 --> 00:22:45,647
>> When things moved online and

634
00:22:45,647 --> 00:22:47,816
everyone had to go home a lot of

635
00:22:47,816 --> 00:22:51,253
people gave up.

636
00:22:51,253 --> 00:22:52,854
A lot of people focused on their

637
00:22:52,854 --> 00:22:55,624
own things, but we tried to get

638
00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:57,125
them here.

639
00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:58,026
>> The only thing that they

640
00:22:58,026 --> 00:23:00,862
could do was to keep it all

641
00:23:00,862 --> 00:23:02,798
going.

642
00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:04,633
>> For each one of these we had

643
00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:13,208
a resume call.

644
00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:16,812
>> Everybody got back on board.

645
00:23:16,812 --> 00:23:19,548
But prove ourselves right.

646
00:23:19,548 --> 00:23:20,816
>> We knew at the end that we

647
00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:22,350
could still present something in

648
00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:25,220
the chance of that pushed us.

649
00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:26,721
>> Going into the second year

650
00:23:26,721 --> 00:23:31,126
with a head start and a lot of

651
00:23:31,126 --> 00:23:32,861
that would be helpful.

652
00:23:32,861 --> 00:23:33,995
>> We finished up all of our

653
00:23:33,995 --> 00:23:35,831
testing and we made that push

654
00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:38,033
and we hand it off to the next

655
00:23:38,033 --> 00:23:40,836
team that should continue to

656
00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:43,472
turn it over.

657
00:23:43,472 --> 00:23:44,973
>> We are born many more years

658
00:23:44,973 --> 00:23:47,275
that we will refine our design

659
00:23:47,275 --> 00:23:50,812
and go back.

660
00:23:50,812 --> 00:23:52,080
>> They keep finishing and

661
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,382
tweaking this and getting the

662
00:23:54,382 --> 00:23:56,518
best results.

663
00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:58,453
And then with those 27 members

664
00:23:58,453 --> 00:24:00,422
were brought in, we work on a

665
00:24:00,422 --> 00:24:12,901
new one.

666
00:24:12,901 --> 00:24:14,669
We are very appreciative of the

667
00:24:14,669 --> 00:24:18,607
opportunity to work and learn to

668
00:24:18,607 --> 00:24:30,752
the whole process.

669
00:24:30,752 --> 00:24:32,454
If you are just now joining us

670
00:24:32,454 --> 00:24:34,723
we're coming to live from moon

671
00:24:34,723 --> 00:24:37,058
to Mars prospecting challenge

672
00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:39,227
with a drill through simulated

673
00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:43,498
lunar and soil to get to the ice

674
00:24:43,498 --> 00:24:45,033
in hopes of extracting water

675
00:24:45,033 --> 00:24:46,768
from down below.

676
00:24:46,768 --> 00:24:48,069
And I believe my colleague over

677
00:24:48,069 --> 00:24:50,005
there as one of the event

678
00:24:50,005 --> 00:24:51,673
organizers so let's kick things

679
00:24:51,673 --> 00:24:53,175
off with the correspondent's

680
00:24:53,175 --> 00:24:54,576
desk and ask how this

681
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:57,312
competition came to be.

682
00:24:57,312 --> 00:24:58,914
>> Thank you and I am here with

683
00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:01,049
someone very important, I am

684
00:25:01,049 --> 00:25:03,185
joined by Shelly Spears who is

685
00:25:03,185 --> 00:25:04,252
in charge of bringing this

686
00:25:04,252 --> 00:25:05,854
entire event together thank you

687
00:25:05,854 --> 00:25:07,789
so much for joining us.

688
00:25:07,789 --> 00:25:09,958
>> It is wonderful thank you.

689
00:25:09,958 --> 00:25:11,660
>> We are back for another

690
00:25:11,660 --> 00:25:13,395
competition so how is this

691
00:25:13,395 --> 00:25:15,564
year's competition going.

692
00:25:15,564 --> 00:25:17,165
>> It is fantastic they came

693
00:25:17,165 --> 00:25:18,867
ready to compete this year and

694
00:25:18,867 --> 00:25:20,569
right now hearing all of the

695
00:25:20,569 --> 00:25:22,070
drilling in excitement in the

696
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:24,172
room we are off to a fantastic

697
00:25:24,172 --> 00:25:26,708
start.

698
00:25:26,708 --> 00:25:28,109
>> I know especially because I

699
00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:29,878
know last year's competition was

700
00:25:29,878 --> 00:25:30,745
canceled because of the

701
00:25:30,745 --> 00:25:33,281
pandemic, so I know that it must

702
00:25:33,281 --> 00:25:35,784
be great to see all of these

703
00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:37,919
designs in person and see

704
00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:40,088
everything in action today.

705
00:25:40,088 --> 00:25:41,790
>> They look so hard-work so

706
00:25:41,790 --> 00:25:43,258
hard on this and they have had

707
00:25:43,258 --> 00:25:44,626
so many challenges putting the

708
00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:46,728
system together with the hiccups

709
00:25:46,728 --> 00:25:49,864
and obstacles of COVID so to it

710
00:25:49,864 --> 00:25:51,299
have been physically be here to

711
00:25:51,299 --> 00:25:52,701
put all the hard work to the

712
00:25:52,701 --> 00:25:54,035
test and compete with their

713
00:25:54,035 --> 00:25:56,738
colleagues they are excited and

714
00:25:56,738 --> 00:25:58,940
we are excited and it is really

715
00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:00,575
great to see people face to face

716
00:26:00,575 --> 00:26:01,943
again.

717
00:26:01,943 --> 00:26:03,478
>> I agree so this is the fifth

718
00:26:03,478 --> 00:26:06,548
year of the challenge with new

719
00:26:06,548 --> 00:26:08,750
teams competing in the new

720
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:10,852
design, what have we learned so

721
00:26:10,852 --> 00:26:12,787
far over the lifetime of this

722
00:26:12,787 --> 00:26:14,656
competition and why does NASA

723
00:26:14,656 --> 00:26:17,659
continue to support it?

724
00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:18,860
>> We have learned when we first

725
00:26:18,860 --> 00:26:20,128
are the competition there were

726
00:26:20,128 --> 00:26:21,763
so many different approaches to

727
00:26:21,763 --> 00:26:24,065
solving this complex challenge

728
00:26:24,065 --> 00:26:26,201
and over time we have seen teams

729
00:26:26,201 --> 00:26:27,936
gravitate towards one or two

730
00:26:27,936 --> 00:26:29,037
approaches that they have

731
00:26:29,037 --> 00:26:31,873
learned through our reading

732
00:26:31,873 --> 00:26:33,642
technical papers, lessons

733
00:26:33,642 --> 00:26:35,477
learned in all of those that we

734
00:26:35,477 --> 00:26:37,879
do because the competition is

735
00:26:37,879 --> 00:26:39,881
all here together so we want to

736
00:26:39,881 --> 00:26:41,249
see the best practices

737
00:26:41,249 --> 00:26:43,084
everything that works and does

738
00:26:43,084 --> 00:26:44,419
not work so maybe more

739
00:26:44,419 --> 00:26:45,587
importantly we learned what it

740
00:26:45,587 --> 00:26:46,588
does not work and we are

741
00:26:46,588 --> 00:26:48,189
starting to gravitate towards a

742
00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:53,295
few approaches but we do not

743
00:26:53,295 --> 00:27:02,170
want to make it too easy.

744
00:27:02,170 --> 00:27:04,673
>> Why do you think competition

745
00:27:04,673 --> 00:27:06,608
like that prospecting challenges

746
00:27:06,608 --> 00:27:08,343
are beneficial.

747
00:27:08,343 --> 00:27:09,144
>> They are important for a lot

748
00:27:09,144 --> 00:27:11,179
of reasons for students entering

749
00:27:11,179 --> 00:27:12,580
the workforce and want to go

750
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:14,649
into aerospace and exploration

751
00:27:14,649 --> 00:27:16,217
systems it gives them the

752
00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:17,786
opportunity to apply their

753
00:27:17,786 --> 00:27:20,388
skills in a very hands-on way

754
00:27:20,388 --> 00:27:22,123
and it is a very cost-effective

755
00:27:22,123 --> 00:27:24,559
way for NASA to put out these

756
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,095
complex challenges to academia

757
00:27:27,095 --> 00:27:28,563
because it is going to take a

758
00:27:28,563 --> 00:27:30,598
lot of creative input to solve

759
00:27:30,598 --> 00:27:33,735
some of these complex problems.

760
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:35,970
So it takes academia, and

761
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:37,972
international space agencies are

762
00:27:37,972 --> 00:27:40,141
working together it also creates

763
00:27:40,141 --> 00:27:41,810
a bridge talent pool for

764
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:44,312
industry and let's face it these

765
00:27:44,312 --> 00:27:46,281
students right here, when we

766
00:27:46,281 --> 00:27:48,883
have longer duration present it

767
00:27:48,883 --> 00:27:51,286
will happen during their career,

768
00:27:51,286 --> 00:27:52,787
so they are really getting a

769
00:27:52,787 --> 00:27:54,356
head start.

770
00:27:54,356 --> 00:27:56,324
>> How can they get involved in

771
00:27:56,324 --> 00:27:58,226
future challenges.

772
00:27:58,226 --> 00:27:58,827
>> There are so many

773
00:27:58,827 --> 00:28:00,395
opportunities out there so if

774
00:28:00,395 --> 00:28:02,797
you are in kindergarten or all

775
00:28:02,797 --> 00:28:05,600
the way through graduate school,

776
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,135
NASA does a great job of

777
00:28:07,135 --> 00:28:08,570
creating opportunity for

778
00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:11,139
students so I would say to go

779
00:28:11,139 --> 00:28:13,475
online and if you search that on

780
00:28:13,475 --> 00:28:15,143
the Internet, this is a

781
00:28:15,143 --> 00:28:16,711
newsletter and they do a

782
00:28:16,711 --> 00:28:17,912
wonderful job of letting

783
00:28:17,912 --> 00:28:19,414
everyone know the opportunities

784
00:28:19,414 --> 00:28:21,149
that are out there.

785
00:28:21,149 --> 00:28:22,083
>> And how about getting

786
00:28:22,083 --> 00:28:24,119
involved specifically in this

787
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,520
challenge.

788
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,588
>> So you could go to the

789
00:28:26,588 --> 00:28:30,125
website or to the Napa-NASA

790
00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:36,898
website or go to rascal in that

791
00:28:36,898 --> 00:28:38,533
talk about the competition and

792
00:28:38,533 --> 00:28:39,934
see all about what we are coming

793
00:28:39,934 --> 00:28:41,870
up with next.

794
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:46,474
>> Well, we have so many

795
00:28:46,474 --> 00:28:48,643
#askNASA questions coming in and

796
00:28:48,643 --> 00:28:49,978
if you are at home and would

797
00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,379
like your question answered

798
00:28:51,379 --> 00:28:56,785
life, use the #, #askNASA and

799
00:28:56,785 --> 00:28:57,986
drop your questions from

800
00:28:57,986 --> 00:28:59,087
wherever you are watching us

801
00:28:59,087 --> 00:29:02,290
today so, our first question

802
00:29:02,290 --> 00:29:08,396
comes from twitter and they are

803
00:29:08,396 --> 00:29:10,198
asking what are the colleges

804
00:29:10,198 --> 00:29:12,901
participating in the challenge.

805
00:29:12,901 --> 00:29:19,574
>> Okay let's see, there are ten

806
00:29:19,574 --> 00:29:23,511
it is MIT, Virginia Tech, is it

807
00:29:23,511 --> 00:29:25,747
okay if I do this, Auburn

808
00:29:25,747 --> 00:29:29,184
University MIT San Diego State,

809
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:31,085
Stevens Institute of technology

810
00:29:31,085 --> 00:29:33,288
University of Pittsburgh, Cal

811
00:29:33,288 --> 00:29:38,927
poly Northeastern Texas A&M and

812
00:29:38,927 --> 00:29:40,562
Virginia Tech.

813
00:29:40,562 --> 00:29:42,030
>> Congratulations to all those

814
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,631
universities for making it out

815
00:29:43,631 --> 00:29:45,934
here today.

816
00:29:45,934 --> 00:29:49,204
In another question on Facebook

817
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:51,639
and she wants to know how are

818
00:29:51,639 --> 00:29:54,209
these teams chosen.

819
00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:55,910
>> So we put out a call for

820
00:29:55,910 --> 00:29:58,580
proposals across the country it

821
00:29:58,580 --> 00:30:00,849
is open to all universities that

822
00:30:00,849 --> 00:30:02,717
partner with universities that

823
00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:05,353
they like and we put out the

824
00:30:05,353 --> 00:30:07,255
specs and requirements and may

825
00:30:07,255 --> 00:30:09,891
submit our plans reviewed by the

826
00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:11,893
industry experts and NASA

827
00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:14,762
experts the judging panel and we

828
00:30:14,762 --> 00:30:16,731
picked these teams that have

829
00:30:16,731 --> 00:30:18,466
innovative ideas and they seem

830
00:30:18,466 --> 00:30:24,539
more prepared and we give them

831
00:30:24,539 --> 00:30:26,641
some small amount of funding to

832
00:30:26,641 --> 00:30:32,647
soft with their designs and then

833
00:30:32,647 --> 00:30:35,583
they are here.

834
00:30:35,583 --> 00:30:36,618
>> Thank you so much for joining

835
00:30:36,618 --> 00:30:38,520
us.

836
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,223
And Molly it is back to you.

837
00:30:42,223 --> 00:30:43,391
>> And thank you for putting on

838
00:30:43,391 --> 00:30:44,726
another great competition we

839
00:30:44,726 --> 00:30:47,128
love to come to this one.

840
00:30:47,128 --> 00:30:49,163
And I had a neat opportunity to

841
00:30:49,163 --> 00:30:51,099
interview with the astronaut

842
00:30:51,099 --> 00:30:53,201
Victor Glover if you have not

843
00:30:53,201 --> 00:30:54,569
heard him speak and get ready

844
00:30:54,569 --> 00:30:56,204
because he is well spoken and

845
00:30:56,204 --> 00:30:58,640
genuinely wonderful human being.

846
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,974
We get to talk about this

847
00:30:59,974 --> 00:31:01,476
challenge and what it means for

848
00:31:01,476 --> 00:31:03,778
astronauts like him who may be

849
00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:05,713
an end user of this technology

850
00:31:05,713 --> 00:31:08,650
one day he also knows a thing or

851
00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:12,687
two about space firsthand.

852
00:31:12,687 --> 00:31:13,922
>> Thank you for joining us

853
00:31:13,922 --> 00:31:15,223
we're so excited to have you on

854
00:31:15,223 --> 00:31:17,125
the show.

855
00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:20,295
>> Thank you, very much.

856
00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:22,664
So right now in the competition,

857
00:31:22,664 --> 00:31:24,966
the student teams are operating

858
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:26,834
unique technologies in

859
00:31:26,834 --> 00:31:28,670
demonstrating drilling through

860
00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:32,640
our simulated lunar and services

861
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,576
in they try to access the water

862
00:31:34,576 --> 00:31:37,211
which is hidden beneath.

863
00:31:37,211 --> 00:31:39,814
As you as an end unit that may

864
00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:42,250
benefit like this, what value do

865
00:31:42,250 --> 00:31:43,818
you see in competitions like

866
00:31:43,818 --> 00:31:46,955
this?

867
00:31:46,955 --> 00:31:48,089
>> Well I appreciate that

868
00:31:48,089 --> 00:31:49,624
statement as a user of this

869
00:31:49,624 --> 00:31:51,759
technology, it is amazing that

870
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:53,895
we are going back to the moon

871
00:31:53,895 --> 00:31:56,598
with this and it is amazing that

872
00:31:56,598 --> 00:31:59,133
our generation will have this

873
00:31:59,133 --> 00:32:02,670
program and I am really excited

874
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,405
about this effort so for them to

875
00:32:04,405 --> 00:32:06,140
be working on technology for us

876
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:08,376
to get access to ice which is a

877
00:32:08,376 --> 00:32:10,378
valuable resource because you

878
00:32:10,378 --> 00:32:13,181
need it for life and it is a

879
00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:16,584
great component and record fuel.

880
00:32:16,584 --> 00:32:18,586
So this technology will enable

881
00:32:18,586 --> 00:32:20,989
us to find new ways and ideas

882
00:32:20,989 --> 00:32:23,191
for extracting this valuable

883
00:32:23,191 --> 00:32:25,693
resource in the sources that we

884
00:32:25,693 --> 00:32:27,028
have recently discovered the

885
00:32:27,028 --> 00:32:31,099
moon.

886
00:32:31,099 --> 00:32:31,933
>> I would like to focus a

887
00:32:31,933 --> 00:32:36,738
little bit on water.

888
00:32:36,738 --> 00:32:38,806
When you have been in space this

889
00:32:38,806 --> 00:32:40,408
is such a limited resource I

890
00:32:40,408 --> 00:32:42,176
imagine you treat it with a lot

891
00:32:42,176 --> 00:32:47,115
of care, what does it signify

892
00:32:47,115 --> 00:32:48,449
for you I am sure this is

893
00:32:48,449 --> 00:32:50,318
different than what water

894
00:32:50,318 --> 00:32:52,353
signifies to me.

895
00:32:52,353 --> 00:32:53,888
>> Living in space helps you to

896
00:32:53,888 --> 00:32:55,490
appreciate what we take for

897
00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:58,326
granted or at least just expect

898
00:32:58,326 --> 00:33:00,528
to be there like water, we have

899
00:33:00,528 --> 00:33:02,664
to reclaim water and we actually

900
00:33:02,664 --> 00:33:05,333
take, I heard someone say one

901
00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:07,902
time, we turn yesterday's coffee

902
00:33:07,902 --> 00:33:09,537
into tomorrow's coffee because

903
00:33:09,537 --> 00:33:10,938
we take water out of everything

904
00:33:10,938 --> 00:33:13,041
if I run on the treadmill and

905
00:33:13,041 --> 00:33:15,276
wipe my face with a towel I hang

906
00:33:15,276 --> 00:33:16,644
the towel up in the air

907
00:33:16,644 --> 00:33:18,980
conditioning system dries it out

908
00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:20,381
and pulls the moisture out of

909
00:33:20,381 --> 00:33:22,750
the air in the air conditioner

910
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,352
separates and puts it in our

911
00:33:24,352 --> 00:33:26,320
water system and purifies it in

912
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,056
turns it into drinking water so

913
00:33:28,056 --> 00:33:31,526
it is extremely valuable.

914
00:33:31,526 --> 00:33:33,027
That is the most exciting part

915
00:33:33,027 --> 00:33:34,696
the ability to get access to

916
00:33:34,696 --> 00:33:36,631
that resource which is already

917
00:33:36,631 --> 00:33:38,433
up there on the moon is a

918
00:33:38,433 --> 00:33:40,301
critical capability.

919
00:33:40,301 --> 00:33:42,170
Very need to thing to be able to

920
00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:43,504
do in the technology the

921
00:33:43,504 --> 00:33:44,906
students are working on the new

922
00:33:44,906 --> 00:33:47,041
ideas, they will not all take

923
00:33:47,041 --> 00:33:48,576
the same approach in the debt is

924
00:33:48,576 --> 00:33:49,644
one thing that is really

925
00:33:49,644 --> 00:33:50,912
exciting about this type of

926
00:33:50,912 --> 00:33:52,613
competition.

927
00:33:52,613 --> 00:33:53,614
>> How do you think as an

928
00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:56,884
astronaut the moon to Mars

929
00:33:56,884 --> 00:33:58,986
prospecting challenge, could

930
00:33:58,986 --> 00:34:00,822
directly impact you and other

931
00:34:00,822 --> 00:34:02,724
future astronauts as you explore

932
00:34:02,724 --> 00:34:06,160
the moon and Mars?

933
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,395
>> Knowing that these students

934
00:34:07,395 --> 00:34:08,629
are creating something that

935
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:10,565
might be a tool that we use in

936
00:34:10,565 --> 00:34:12,900
space one day is actually quite

937
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:15,203
motivating and inspiring them to

938
00:34:15,203 --> 00:34:16,604
see the ideas that they come up

939
00:34:16,604 --> 00:34:18,206
with but more importantly the

940
00:34:18,206 --> 00:34:19,507
ideas they come up with are

941
00:34:19,507 --> 00:34:20,975
great but then to see the

942
00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:22,477
physical competition where they

943
00:34:22,477 --> 00:34:24,812
show the hardware, they have a

944
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:29,350
design and some of the code

945
00:34:29,350 --> 00:34:31,152
hardware and software in the put

946
00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:32,420
it out there and then they run

947
00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:33,855
it in the have to come up with

948
00:34:33,855 --> 00:34:36,157
procedures and communicate and

949
00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:38,192
work together as a team and the

950
00:34:38,192 --> 00:34:39,727
move this material from one

951
00:34:39,727 --> 00:34:41,496
place to another.

952
00:34:41,496 --> 00:34:43,131
It is amazing to actually see

953
00:34:43,131 --> 00:34:45,733
this idea become a reality.

954
00:34:45,733 --> 00:34:47,368
So this type of competition is

955
00:34:47,368 --> 00:34:48,770
so important to inspire those

956
00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:52,640
students to dream and create and

957
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,976
also for us to learn about what

958
00:34:54,976 --> 00:34:56,778
ideas are out there because NASA

959
00:34:56,778 --> 00:34:58,146
has very good things that we

960
00:34:58,146 --> 00:34:59,847
have done for a long time that

961
00:34:59,847 --> 00:35:01,115
are working and they work well

962
00:35:01,115 --> 00:35:02,517
but that may not be the best or

963
00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:04,018
most efficient way to do things

964
00:35:04,018 --> 00:35:06,254
right now.

965
00:35:06,254 --> 00:35:07,221
>> Thank you very much for your

966
00:35:07,221 --> 00:35:10,124
time we are very appreciative.

967
00:35:10,124 --> 00:35:11,192
>> Thank you it has been great

968
00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:12,126
talking to you and

969
00:35:12,126 --> 00:35:13,427
congratulations to all the

970
00:35:13,427 --> 00:35:15,062
students and advisers at the

971
00:35:15,062 --> 00:35:16,230
event.

972
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:19,433
Best good luck to you.

973
00:35:19,433 --> 00:35:20,802
>> If you're like me and could

974
00:35:20,802 --> 00:35:23,471
listen to Victor Glover talk all

975
00:35:23,471 --> 00:35:25,573
day things are grim for our part

976
00:35:25,573 --> 00:35:28,176
two of the interview, we are

977
00:35:28,176 --> 00:35:29,811
going to hear from him firsthand

978
00:35:29,811 --> 00:35:31,512
and what it would be like to use

979
00:35:31,512 --> 00:35:32,814
this technology on the moon

980
00:35:32,814 --> 00:35:33,881
Monday.

981
00:35:33,881 --> 00:35:35,383
So stick with us you do not want

982
00:35:35,383 --> 00:35:36,784
to miss that and if you're just

983
00:35:36,784 --> 00:35:39,086
not joining us, we are coming

984
00:35:39,086 --> 00:35:42,390
you live with from the moon to

985
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:44,792
Mars ice in prospecting

986
00:35:44,792 --> 00:35:46,561
challenge.

987
00:35:46,561 --> 00:35:48,162
Right now we are trying to

988
00:35:48,162 --> 00:35:50,364
attempt to extract water from

989
00:35:50,364 --> 00:35:51,699
the ice below.

990
00:35:51,699 --> 00:35:53,467
One-day systems like this could

991
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:56,204
be used to extracted from the

992
00:35:56,204 --> 00:35:57,839
Moon or Mars in for future

993
00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:00,875
explorers, accessing resources

994
00:36:00,875 --> 00:36:02,310
like water will be crucial for

995
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:04,645
creating a sustained-in

996
00:36:04,645 --> 00:36:07,048
sustaining human presence beyond

997
00:36:07,048 --> 00:36:08,049
earth.

998
00:36:08,049 --> 00:36:09,817
So now that you get some context

999
00:36:09,817 --> 00:36:11,786
about the challenge itself I am

1000
00:36:11,786 --> 00:36:13,087
joined with the team so that we

1001
00:36:13,087 --> 00:36:14,922
see how it is going in the pit

1002
00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:16,557
area.

1003
00:36:16,557 --> 00:36:19,427
So you guys are both from MIT,

1004
00:36:19,427 --> 00:36:21,562
give me a rundown of your design

1005
00:36:21,562 --> 00:36:23,731
and your system.

1006
00:36:23,731 --> 00:36:25,099
>> Right, so first of all I

1007
00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:26,300
would like to say that we have

1008
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:28,135
an amazing team of seven people

1009
00:36:28,135 --> 00:36:30,571
and we have complementary like

1010
00:36:30,571 --> 00:36:33,074
skills and it is amazing what we

1011
00:36:33,074 --> 00:36:35,009
have actually come up with.

1012
00:36:35,009 --> 00:36:37,812
>> So we have this able spot

1013
00:36:37,812 --> 00:36:39,380
right here at which we focus on

1014
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:40,882
we have a parallel drill trail

1015
00:36:40,882 --> 00:36:44,285
and heater as well, so we drill

1016
00:36:44,285 --> 00:36:46,854
a hole about an inch in diameter

1017
00:36:46,854 --> 00:36:48,956
and we use this motor which is

1018
00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:51,859
very accurate and on the Y axis

1019
00:36:51,859 --> 00:36:53,394
we move the heater into place

1020
00:36:53,394 --> 00:36:55,930
right above the drilled hole.

1021
00:36:55,930 --> 00:36:57,231
And then we drop this heater

1022
00:36:57,231 --> 00:36:59,433
down and use radiative heating

1023
00:36:59,433 --> 00:37:01,702
to melt the ice and basically go

1024
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,071
into Mars melting the ice and we

1025
00:37:04,071 --> 00:37:07,208
use this to pump the water out.

1026
00:37:07,208 --> 00:37:08,409
So that is basically the

1027
00:37:08,409 --> 00:37:12,113
hardware this can be controlled

1028
00:37:12,113 --> 00:37:14,949
by a team of I guess astronauts

1029
00:37:14,949 --> 00:37:16,584
where we do not actually have to

1030
00:37:16,584 --> 00:37:18,819
touch the instrument and we are

1031
00:37:18,819 --> 00:37:20,988
just looking at controlling it

1032
00:37:20,988 --> 00:37:22,590
from a distance and I have been

1033
00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:24,325
very lucky and I have gotten to

1034
00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:25,960
be one of those astronauts for

1035
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,095
our system so that is exactly

1036
00:37:28,095 --> 00:37:31,065
how are our hardware works.

1037
00:37:31,065 --> 00:37:37,538
>> Right now it is hands off, so

1038
00:37:37,538 --> 00:37:40,308
now walk through this software

1039
00:37:40,308 --> 00:37:42,610
and unique tools to get your

1040
00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:45,212
data especially with the digital

1041
00:37:45,212 --> 00:37:47,348
core.

1042
00:37:47,348 --> 00:37:49,417
>> Cool, so first off we have a

1043
00:37:49,417 --> 00:37:52,853
microphone.

1044
00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:55,222
And getting water is nice, we

1045
00:37:55,222 --> 00:37:57,425
have been a fantastic job about

1046
00:37:57,425 --> 00:37:59,460
doing this, one thing that we

1047
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:00,695
really want for the moon and

1048
00:38:00,695 --> 00:38:02,596
Mars is to show what are the

1049
00:38:02,596 --> 00:38:04,098
layers that make up what we are

1050
00:38:04,098 --> 00:38:05,433
digging.

1051
00:38:05,433 --> 00:38:07,134
So the things that we have are a

1052
00:38:07,134 --> 00:38:09,470
microphone and this is the

1053
00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:11,706
different sounds when you drill

1054
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:13,941
into different material, we also

1055
00:38:13,941 --> 00:38:16,143
have sensors so more forces

1056
00:38:16,143 --> 00:38:19,246
being applied, then we have more

1057
00:38:19,246 --> 00:38:22,049
current to the drill in the

1058
00:38:22,049 --> 00:38:23,918
motor moving the drill

1059
00:38:23,918 --> 00:38:25,886
downwards.

1060
00:38:25,886 --> 00:38:27,254
And you have to be current of

1061
00:38:27,254 --> 00:38:29,423
the drill bit as well as, that

1062
00:38:29,423 --> 00:38:30,992
is pretty much it.

1063
00:38:30,992 --> 00:38:33,427
And then we map it into a neural

1064
00:38:33,427 --> 00:38:37,365
net, with heavy statistics and

1065
00:38:37,365 --> 00:38:39,533
then you figure out that you are

1066
00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:42,503
drilling and concrete right now,

1067
00:38:42,503 --> 00:38:44,238
I'm drilling into ice and that

1068
00:38:44,238 --> 00:38:45,506
is how you know that you want to

1069
00:38:45,506 --> 00:38:48,609
turn right here, and put the

1070
00:38:48,609 --> 00:38:52,446
heater down and get the water

1071
00:38:52,446 --> 00:38:53,681
out.

1072
00:38:53,681 --> 00:38:54,648
>> I have covered this

1073
00:38:54,648 --> 00:38:56,317
competition for a year and never

1074
00:38:56,317 --> 00:38:59,553
saw a microphone I would never

1075
00:38:59,553 --> 00:39:01,522
have thought about utilizing it

1076
00:39:01,522 --> 00:39:02,890
like that.

1077
00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:06,360
>> At the very end we realize

1078
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,062
what sounds it is in there we

1079
00:39:08,062 --> 00:39:10,164
go.

1080
00:39:10,164 --> 00:39:11,699
>> How confident are you in your

1081
00:39:11,699 --> 00:39:14,335
ability to capture a clean water

1082
00:39:14,335 --> 00:39:15,870
facility from this week you

1083
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:18,506
drink the water that your system

1084
00:39:18,506 --> 00:39:20,174
produces over here.

1085
00:39:20,174 --> 00:39:22,043
>> Yes, I have drink dirtier

1086
00:39:22,043 --> 00:39:25,579
water in my life before.

1087
00:39:25,579 --> 00:39:27,014
>> All in the name of science,

1088
00:39:27,014 --> 00:39:28,916
right.

1089
00:39:28,916 --> 00:39:31,152
>> Yes.

1090
00:39:31,152 --> 00:39:33,054
>> We will take it, it is a live

1091
00:39:33,054 --> 00:39:34,522
show.

1092
00:39:34,522 --> 00:39:35,689
>> Thank you, very much I

1093
00:39:35,689 --> 00:39:37,658
appreciate your time.

1094
00:39:37,658 --> 00:39:39,026
>> Thank you for having us.

1095
00:39:39,026 --> 00:39:40,861
>> Yes thank you so much.

1096
00:39:40,861 --> 00:39:46,133
Let's go over here, this is

1097
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:48,169
called coiling with the

1098
00:39:48,169 --> 00:39:49,970
University of Pittsburgh, so

1099
00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:51,705
tell me about your machine and

1100
00:39:51,705 --> 00:39:53,274
your design.

1101
00:39:53,274 --> 00:39:54,275
>> Sure.

1102
00:39:54,275 --> 00:39:56,744
So, our system is pretty unique

1103
00:39:56,744 --> 00:39:58,512
when you compare it to the rest

1104
00:39:58,512 --> 00:40:00,714
of the systems around here, we

1105
00:40:00,714 --> 00:40:02,383
are the only ones who are

1106
00:40:02,383 --> 00:40:04,819
extracting water instead of the

1107
00:40:04,819 --> 00:40:07,154
liquid.

1108
00:40:07,154 --> 00:40:08,622
>> Are we doing the right thing

1109
00:40:08,622 --> 00:40:10,224
if no one else is choosing that

1110
00:40:10,224 --> 00:40:11,659
approach why did you choose that

1111
00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:13,127
approach.

1112
00:40:13,127 --> 00:40:14,261
>> We really fell in love with

1113
00:40:14,261 --> 00:40:15,763
the theme of this competition

1114
00:40:15,763 --> 00:40:17,631
which is to build a robot which

1115
00:40:17,631 --> 00:40:20,801
extracts water on the moon in

1116
00:40:20,801 --> 00:40:24,071
the condition on Mars and moon

1117
00:40:24,071 --> 00:40:26,974
suggest that you could actually

1118
00:40:26,974 --> 00:40:30,277
have ice sublimate into a gas

1119
00:40:30,277 --> 00:40:33,080
form when you add heat.

1120
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,849
>> Easier than on Earth.

1121
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:35,683
>> Yes.

1122
00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:37,551
So actually we have the hardest

1123
00:40:37,551 --> 00:40:42,957
time competing on earth and.

1124
00:40:42,957 --> 00:40:44,091
>> Let's talk to the event

1125
00:40:44,091 --> 00:40:45,860
organizer about doing it out

1126
00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:51,298
there next time.

1127
00:40:51,298 --> 00:40:53,300
Now I think they told us that

1128
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:54,602
they are going to ship it up

1129
00:40:54,602 --> 00:40:56,203
there next week.

1130
00:40:56,203 --> 00:40:57,238
>> Seriously.

1131
00:40:57,238 --> 00:40:59,039
>> No.

1132
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,143
>> No one told me.

1133
00:41:02,143 --> 00:41:03,444
Have you burned through any

1134
00:41:03,444 --> 00:41:05,312
heating apparatuses to get to

1135
00:41:05,312 --> 00:41:06,914
this point.

1136
00:41:06,914 --> 00:41:07,648
>> We have gone through one

1137
00:41:07,648 --> 00:41:09,850
heating element but I have one

1138
00:41:09,850 --> 00:41:11,752
piece of great news we extracted

1139
00:41:11,752 --> 00:41:17,858
some water.

1140
00:41:17,858 --> 00:41:20,528
That is good, congratulations.

1141
00:41:20,528 --> 00:41:21,996
>> It is amazing.

1142
00:41:21,996 --> 00:41:23,230
And special thank you to my

1143
00:41:23,230 --> 00:41:25,299
entire team we have put in a ton

1144
00:41:25,299 --> 00:41:26,800
of work more than we all

1145
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,235
expected.

1146
00:41:28,235 --> 00:41:29,803
But we have rose to the

1147
00:41:29,803 --> 00:41:32,306
challenge and I am super proud

1148
00:41:32,306 --> 00:41:33,541
of all of the guys that we have

1149
00:41:33,541 --> 00:41:35,075
with us today.

1150
00:41:35,075 --> 00:41:35,643
>> That is awesome

1151
00:41:35,643 --> 00:41:37,444
congratulations I am excited for

1152
00:41:37,444 --> 00:41:38,679
you guys.

1153
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:40,481
It is not an easy challenge in

1154
00:41:40,481 --> 00:41:45,085
one of the things, one of the

1155
00:41:45,085 --> 00:41:46,687
things I think that is important

1156
00:41:46,687 --> 00:41:50,424
is the judges here so a special

1157
00:41:50,424 --> 00:41:52,259
guest that knows the in and outs

1158
00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:54,862
and I may even official that

1159
00:41:54,862 --> 00:41:56,463
talk about the official in and

1160
00:41:56,463 --> 00:41:57,898
outs let's push it over to the

1161
00:41:57,898 --> 00:42:00,234
correspondence desk.

1162
00:42:00,234 --> 00:42:01,302
>> I have an important person

1163
00:42:01,302 --> 00:42:02,970
with me I am joined by Chris

1164
00:42:02,970 --> 00:42:04,505
Jones who is the judge of

1165
00:42:04,505 --> 00:42:06,707
today's competition I'm so happy

1166
00:42:06,707 --> 00:42:08,943
you could join us.

1167
00:42:08,943 --> 00:42:10,511
>> So, Chris you have been so

1168
00:42:10,511 --> 00:42:12,413
instrumental in the creation of

1169
00:42:12,413 --> 00:42:14,248
this challenge, so you are

1170
00:42:14,248 --> 00:42:16,517
probably the best person to ask,

1171
00:42:16,517 --> 00:42:18,085
how does this challenge work and

1172
00:42:18,085 --> 00:42:19,720
how do they need to accomplish

1173
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,021
this.

1174
00:42:21,021 --> 00:42:22,223
>> We have two big challenges

1175
00:42:22,223 --> 00:42:23,524
that we are asking the students

1176
00:42:23,524 --> 00:42:25,059
to do here in that is why we

1177
00:42:25,059 --> 00:42:26,260
call it the prospecting

1178
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:27,661
challenge.

1179
00:42:27,661 --> 00:42:28,929
Part of it is the prospect

1180
00:42:28,929 --> 00:42:30,130
inside of it and what we are

1181
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:31,732
looking for here is for teams to

1182
00:42:31,732 --> 00:42:33,434
give us what we call a digital

1183
00:42:33,434 --> 00:42:35,202
core.

1184
00:42:35,202 --> 00:42:39,306
We have gave them test back with

1185
00:42:39,306 --> 00:42:40,507
multiple layers but they don't

1186
00:42:40,507 --> 00:42:42,009
know what the layers are so they

1187
00:42:42,009 --> 00:42:43,143
get there so they have to use

1188
00:42:43,143 --> 00:42:45,179
the sensors and instruments

1189
00:42:45,179 --> 00:42:47,815
aboard their systems to

1190
00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:49,750
determine what they are how hard

1191
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:51,252
they are and how many there are

1192
00:42:51,252 --> 00:42:52,886
in give us some information back

1193
00:42:52,886 --> 00:42:54,455
as a demonstration of the kind

1194
00:42:54,455 --> 00:42:56,257
of thing that we could do as we

1195
00:42:56,257 --> 00:42:58,859
explore the moon.

1196
00:42:58,859 --> 00:43:01,028
>> And then once they find that,

1197
00:43:01,028 --> 00:43:03,097
they need to find and collect

1198
00:43:03,097 --> 00:43:04,398
water also?

1199
00:43:04,398 --> 00:43:06,166
How does that work.

1200
00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:07,401
>> The other half is getting to

1201
00:43:07,401 --> 00:43:08,636
the ice at the bottom of the

1202
00:43:08,636 --> 00:43:10,537
cooler in processing that into

1203
00:43:10,537 --> 00:43:12,606
some fashion into water that

1204
00:43:12,606 --> 00:43:13,807
they could bring to a so they

1205
00:43:13,807 --> 00:43:15,342
know that there is ice they have

1206
00:43:15,342 --> 00:43:17,077
designed these systems for that

1207
00:43:17,077 --> 00:43:19,313
but they also do design them so

1208
00:43:19,313 --> 00:43:20,848
that they have forward

1209
00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:22,516
application to missions we would

1210
00:43:22,516 --> 00:43:24,451
have to do on the moon and Mars

1211
00:43:24,451 --> 00:43:25,419
so that we could use this

1212
00:43:25,419 --> 00:43:28,422
someday in a real mission.

1213
00:43:28,422 --> 00:43:30,658
>> After all of that, how does a

1214
00:43:30,658 --> 00:43:33,727
team when this challenge.

1215
00:43:33,727 --> 00:43:35,496
>> A big part of it is how much

1216
00:43:35,496 --> 00:43:38,432
water could you deliver you get

1217
00:43:38,432 --> 00:43:39,800
a lot of points for producing a

1218
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,669
lot of water in the quality of

1219
00:43:41,669 --> 00:43:44,071
that digital core.

1220
00:43:44,071 --> 00:43:45,773
Did you understand the layers we

1221
00:43:45,773 --> 00:43:46,840
give you points for that and

1222
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,975
they have written technical

1223
00:43:47,975 --> 00:43:50,844
papers that explain not just how

1224
00:43:50,844 --> 00:43:52,346
it works for the demonstration

1225
00:43:52,346 --> 00:43:53,747
but also how it would be

1226
00:43:53,747 --> 00:43:55,549
adjusted to work on the moon and

1227
00:43:55,549 --> 00:43:57,618
Mars.

1228
00:43:57,618 --> 00:43:59,186
How could we take advantage of

1229
00:43:59,186 --> 00:44:00,921
this and all of the points for

1230
00:44:00,921 --> 00:44:02,423
that come together to determine

1231
00:44:02,423 --> 00:44:04,658
who is the winning team.

1232
00:44:04,658 --> 00:44:05,959
>> Speaking of taking advantage

1233
00:44:05,959 --> 00:44:07,528
of it what is on the line and

1234
00:44:07,528 --> 00:44:09,863
what could students went.

1235
00:44:09,863 --> 00:44:11,265
>> Among the things on the line

1236
00:44:11,265 --> 00:44:14,435
is, the glory of doing it.

1237
00:44:14,435 --> 00:44:15,836
But more realistically and may

1238
00:44:15,836 --> 00:44:17,471
be more interest to the students

1239
00:44:17,471 --> 00:44:19,139
here we have 10,000-dollar prize

1240
00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:20,307
pool that the judges will

1241
00:44:20,307 --> 00:44:22,009
determine how to distribute

1242
00:44:22,009 --> 00:44:23,911
among the teams.

1243
00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:25,212
In the past we use that as a

1244
00:44:25,212 --> 00:44:28,849
trifles site and but also for a

1245
00:44:28,849 --> 00:44:30,718
number of other opportunities

1246
00:44:30,718 --> 00:44:31,985
for the students to present

1247
00:44:31,985 --> 00:44:33,654
their ideas to a broader

1248
00:44:33,654 --> 00:44:36,156
audience and in addition, they

1249
00:44:36,156 --> 00:44:37,825
get the opportunity to provide

1250
00:44:37,825 --> 00:44:39,560
these really cool ideas to us

1251
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,029
here at NASA for us to build and

1252
00:44:42,029 --> 00:44:43,297
fly.

1253
00:44:43,297 --> 00:44:44,565
>> So we have questions coming

1254
00:44:44,565 --> 00:44:48,969
in for you from #askNASA so our

1255
00:44:48,969 --> 00:44:50,904
first question is from YouTube

1256
00:44:50,904 --> 00:44:53,407
user asking what are a few

1257
00:44:53,407 --> 00:44:54,808
things that may differ

1258
00:44:54,808 --> 00:44:57,578
experimenting on them Uzi-moon

1259
00:44:57,578 --> 00:44:59,179
and Mars.

1260
00:44:59,179 --> 00:45:00,280
>> Their different environments

1261
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,182
in both of them are much lower

1262
00:45:02,182 --> 00:45:03,550
gravity than what we have on

1263
00:45:03,550 --> 00:45:04,918
earth so teams have to

1264
00:45:04,918 --> 00:45:06,253
understand how to deal with that

1265
00:45:06,253 --> 00:45:08,422
in on the moon there is a vacuum

1266
00:45:08,422 --> 00:45:10,057
which means there is no air

1267
00:45:10,057 --> 00:45:11,425
surrounding them at all which

1268
00:45:11,425 --> 00:45:15,562
impacts the ability for a system

1269
00:45:15,562 --> 00:45:16,964
to use certain kinds of pressure

1270
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,166
to acquire the resources.

1271
00:45:19,166 --> 00:45:20,634
In both locations they have to

1272
00:45:20,634 --> 00:45:22,302
deal with dust but the way that

1273
00:45:22,302 --> 00:45:24,004
the dust behaves differs from

1274
00:45:24,004 --> 00:45:25,873
the moon and Mars.

1275
00:45:25,873 --> 00:45:27,441
In addition the ways which we

1276
00:45:27,441 --> 00:45:29,610
may find ice are varying between

1277
00:45:29,610 --> 00:45:30,778
those two.

1278
00:45:30,778 --> 00:45:33,580
On the moon we find that in a

1279
00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:35,282
shadowed region which means we

1280
00:45:35,282 --> 00:45:37,217
are in cold and darkness and on

1281
00:45:37,217 --> 00:45:38,986
Mars we hope to find it in much

1282
00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:42,756
more accessible locations.

1283
00:45:42,756 --> 00:45:45,459
>> So, on Twitter, excuse me on

1284
00:45:45,459 --> 00:45:47,494
YouTube asks what is the soul

1285
00:45:47,494 --> 00:45:49,329
purpose of extracting water from

1286
00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:50,631
the moon.

1287
00:45:50,631 --> 00:45:51,799
>> On the moon.

1288
00:45:51,799 --> 00:45:53,534
So one of the biggest reasons to

1289
00:45:53,534 --> 00:45:56,103
extract water on the moon is

1290
00:45:56,103 --> 00:45:57,838
that it is a chance to make up

1291
00:45:57,838 --> 00:45:59,573
not just just the life-support

1292
00:45:59,573 --> 00:46:01,208
goods that astronauts would need

1293
00:46:01,208 --> 00:46:03,210
things like water or breathable

1294
00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:05,279
oxygen but also a way to get the

1295
00:46:05,279 --> 00:46:07,815
propellent that they would

1296
00:46:07,815 --> 00:46:09,316
leaving that lunar surface and

1297
00:46:09,316 --> 00:46:11,718
going back to Earth's orbit one

1298
00:46:11,718 --> 00:46:13,320
of the things I have done and

1299
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,389
worked with books on is when and

1300
00:46:15,389 --> 00:46:16,924
where is the best location to

1301
00:46:16,924 --> 00:46:18,859
use this and where is the best

1302
00:46:18,859 --> 00:46:20,861
to use that lunar water to

1303
00:46:20,861 --> 00:46:23,764
explore exploration and the

1304
00:46:23,764 --> 00:46:25,766
answer is there are a lot of

1305
00:46:25,766 --> 00:46:27,167
different ways.

1306
00:46:27,167 --> 00:46:29,803
>> Now from twitter Amber wants

1307
00:46:29,803 --> 00:46:31,071
to know due to the freezing

1308
00:46:31,071 --> 00:46:33,173
temperatures on Mars, how do you

1309
00:46:33,173 --> 00:46:35,242
keep the water from re- present

1310
00:46:35,242 --> 00:46:37,611
after it has been extracted.

1311
00:46:37,611 --> 00:46:39,413
>> It is interesting it is not

1312
00:46:39,413 --> 00:46:40,981
the only challenge with managing

1313
00:46:40,981 --> 00:46:42,749
the water but because of the low

1314
00:46:42,749 --> 00:46:44,218
pressure water is at risk of

1315
00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:46,920
turning directly from ice into a

1316
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,555
gas which means we cannot even

1317
00:46:48,555 --> 00:46:50,457
capture it as a liquid.

1318
00:46:50,457 --> 00:46:52,259
Some teams here are looking

1319
00:46:52,259 --> 00:46:53,961
about taking advantage of it but

1320
00:46:53,961 --> 00:46:55,462
often it is a balance of keeping

1321
00:46:55,462 --> 00:46:57,331
it warm enough and pressurized

1322
00:46:57,331 --> 00:47:01,168
enough with additional systems

1323
00:47:01,168 --> 00:47:02,703
to make sure that we could keep

1324
00:47:02,703 --> 00:47:04,805
it in a usable state for the

1325
00:47:04,805 --> 00:47:06,440
next missions.

1326
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,709
>> If you find it launching from

1327
00:47:08,709 --> 00:47:10,811
the moon to Mars as viable

1328
00:47:10,811 --> 00:47:11,778
options have what would you have

1329
00:47:11,778 --> 00:47:14,781
to first transport to ready a

1330
00:47:14,781 --> 00:47:16,483
launch.

1331
00:47:16,483 --> 00:47:18,252
>> In order to take advantage of

1332
00:47:18,252 --> 00:47:20,921
this we have to find this ice

1333
00:47:20,921 --> 00:47:22,523
than the systems that could be

1334
00:47:22,523 --> 00:47:24,458
mine in and process it and turn

1335
00:47:24,458 --> 00:47:26,393
it into something useful and it

1336
00:47:26,393 --> 00:47:28,195
is going and demonstrating all

1337
00:47:28,195 --> 00:47:30,063
of these in doing the science to

1338
00:47:30,063 --> 00:47:32,799
find where it is in order to

1339
00:47:32,799 --> 00:47:34,134
turn it into something that we

1340
00:47:34,134 --> 00:47:36,403
could use like what we're doing

1341
00:47:36,403 --> 00:47:36,970
here.

1342
00:47:36,970 --> 00:47:39,273
This is our first step.

1343
00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:40,807
>> It has been a pleasure and I

1344
00:47:40,807 --> 00:47:42,676
know you do not only put this

1345
00:47:42,676 --> 00:47:44,411
together but you are also a

1346
00:47:44,411 --> 00:47:45,512
judgment so I will let you get

1347
00:47:45,512 --> 00:47:47,147
back to that.

1348
00:47:47,147 --> 00:47:49,383
Now Molly, back to you.

1349
00:47:49,383 --> 00:47:50,584
>> Thank you.

1350
00:47:50,584 --> 00:47:51,952
And some of you may be sought or

1351
00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:53,987
earlier on the show that I had

1352
00:47:53,987 --> 00:47:56,023
the amazing opportunity to sit

1353
00:47:56,023 --> 00:47:58,525
said them with Victor cleverish

1354
00:47:58,525 --> 00:48:00,460
and how it affects astronauts

1355
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:02,029
like him who could be end-users

1356
00:48:02,029 --> 00:48:03,564
of this technology and get the

1357
00:48:03,564 --> 00:48:06,300
opportunity to walk right here.

1358
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,468
So let's take a look at what

1359
00:48:08,468 --> 00:48:12,172
Victor had to say.

1360
00:48:12,172 --> 00:48:14,541
>> As we prepare to send humans

1361
00:48:14,541 --> 00:48:20,847
to the moon, what is this and is

1362
00:48:20,847 --> 00:48:23,684
it the next Apollo.

1363
00:48:23,684 --> 00:48:24,985
>> That is an easy way to

1364
00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:28,155
describe it but, it is not.

1365
00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:31,458
It is our generations moon

1366
00:48:31,458 --> 00:48:33,860
program it is Artemis but if you

1367
00:48:33,860 --> 00:48:36,330
are familiar with Apollo yes, we

1368
00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:37,965
are building a rocket which is

1369
00:48:37,965 --> 00:48:39,933
the space launch system which is

1370
00:48:39,933 --> 00:48:41,868
going to be very powerful and a

1371
00:48:41,868 --> 00:48:44,104
big rocket capable of getting a

1372
00:48:44,104 --> 00:48:47,374
spacecraft, Orion into lunar

1373
00:48:47,374 --> 00:48:49,509
orbit which enables us to get

1374
00:48:49,509 --> 00:48:51,244
humans they there and to a

1375
00:48:51,244 --> 00:48:53,580
gateway which would be like a

1376
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:55,182
space station orbiting around

1377
00:48:55,182 --> 00:48:57,017
the moon we would get humans to

1378
00:48:57,017 --> 00:48:58,952
the gateway or human lander

1379
00:48:58,952 --> 00:49:00,787
system which would then get

1380
00:49:00,787 --> 00:49:02,823
human beings to the surface of

1381
00:49:02,823 --> 00:49:04,625
the moon and one other exciting

1382
00:49:04,625 --> 00:49:07,294
components is the astronauts.

1383
00:49:07,294 --> 00:49:08,895
So we identify folks who would

1384
00:49:08,895 --> 00:49:11,365
like to be a part of it and so

1385
00:49:11,365 --> 00:49:12,666
we are going to start to

1386
00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:14,101
hopefully in the near future

1387
00:49:14,101 --> 00:49:17,204
actually naming these folks and

1388
00:49:17,204 --> 00:49:20,007
that the greater international

1389
00:49:20,007 --> 00:49:22,109
partners to these missions

1390
00:49:22,109 --> 00:49:23,844
specifically in those will be

1391
00:49:23,844 --> 00:49:26,680
the actual Artemis lunar

1392
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,716
astronauts it is very exciting.

1393
00:49:29,716 --> 00:49:30,984
>> How would it feel to be the

1394
00:49:30,984 --> 00:49:33,020
first person to walk on the moon

1395
00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:36,623
what would that mean to you.

1396
00:49:36,623 --> 00:49:41,728
>> I really, I have no idea I

1397
00:49:41,728 --> 00:49:43,230
thought going into space and

1398
00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:45,232
living on the space station

1399
00:49:45,232 --> 00:49:47,601
would feel a certain way but so

1400
00:49:47,601 --> 00:49:49,302
much more than that it takes

1401
00:49:49,302 --> 00:49:51,605
that it blew away my expectation

1402
00:49:51,605 --> 00:49:53,140
so I can only imagine that

1403
00:49:53,140 --> 00:49:54,541
anything going to the surface of

1404
00:49:54,541 --> 00:49:57,010
the moon but being in orbit

1405
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:59,079
around the moon before you go

1406
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,148
down to the surface or reading

1407
00:50:01,148 --> 00:50:03,650
the moon and being able to look

1408
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:06,019
at the window and see earth

1409
00:50:06,019 --> 00:50:08,021
rise.

1410
00:50:08,021 --> 00:50:09,823
I mean think about that, that

1411
00:50:09,823 --> 00:50:12,793
picture that Bill Anders took

1412
00:50:12,793 --> 00:50:14,327
changes the way that they saw

1413
00:50:14,327 --> 00:50:15,896
themselves when they see our

1414
00:50:15,896 --> 00:50:18,131
planet so to witness that with

1415
00:50:18,131 --> 00:50:20,233
my own eyes or even to be in

1416
00:50:20,233 --> 00:50:22,002
Mission Control is the

1417
00:50:22,002 --> 00:50:24,504
communicator, speaking to

1418
00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:26,006
crewmembers and my colleagues

1419
00:50:26,006 --> 00:50:27,641
and friends while they

1420
00:50:27,641 --> 00:50:29,776
experienced that, that would be

1421
00:50:29,776 --> 00:50:31,044
unreal.

1422
00:50:31,044 --> 00:50:32,879
So I cannot tell you how that

1423
00:50:32,879 --> 00:50:34,114
would feel but I would love to

1424
00:50:34,114 --> 00:50:35,615
have that experience and come

1425
00:50:35,615 --> 00:50:40,854
back and describe it to you.

1426
00:50:40,854 --> 00:50:42,322
>> One thing I love about being

1427
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part of competitions like this

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is that you see people coming

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together as the human race and

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if you see of these different

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walks of rice with different

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backgrounds and speak different

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languages and to really get to

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see that beautiful picture of

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our world and of our planet,

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having a view of our planet like

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that you have been able to have,

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does that change your

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00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,081
perspective on what life is like

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here?

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>> I believe it would do this

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for all people is make you

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00:51:16,123 --> 00:51:17,491
appreciate life or on the

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00:51:17,491 --> 00:51:20,393
surface, you do not get to see,

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00:51:20,393 --> 00:51:22,129
you see the entire ocean in

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countries without Borders in the

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entire continent it is amazing

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doing any of these amazing

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science and technology things

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like living in space putting

1451
00:51:31,671 --> 00:51:33,774
humans in space requires us to

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00:51:33,774 --> 00:51:36,576
do our best and just about every

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science and technology endeavor

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we have had life-support,

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medical health, radiation

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protection, waste management,

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all of these things drive us to

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be our best selves and they

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00:51:47,721 --> 00:51:50,257
remind us that we need the best

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from everyone.

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And that is what is great about

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these competitions is seeing the

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students all from all the

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universities especially from my

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00:51:58,415 --> 00:52:00,233
alma mater.

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00:52:00,233 --> 00:52:01,868
It is great to see all walks of

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life, all the ideas and

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00:52:05,155 --> 00:52:07,657
ingenuity, all of us doing

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00:52:07,657 --> 00:52:10,060
our best together.

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>> Thank you, so much, we are so

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00:52:11,928 --> 00:52:14,815
appreciative of you.

1472
00:52:14,815 --> 00:52:15,982
>> Thank you for the time it was

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great to be here in great

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talking to you and good luck to

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all the students in the

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competition.

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00:52:24,057 --> 00:52:26,726
>> Victor Glover pushing us to

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00:52:26,726 --> 00:52:28,195
bring out the very best in all

1479
00:52:28,195 --> 00:52:29,796
of us that was so inspiring I

1480
00:52:29,796 --> 00:52:31,398
think I got goosebumps during

1481
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it.

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>> I wasn't going to say

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anything but it is simply

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00:52:36,336 --> 00:52:37,804
amazing.

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>> I cannot wait to see the rest

1486
00:52:39,172 --> 00:52:40,841
of it and I am sure other people

1487
00:52:40,841 --> 00:52:42,309
wonder how they could watch this

1488
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:45,545
entire video and the all of that

1489
00:52:45,545 --> 00:52:47,881
on YouTube so check it out.

1490
00:52:47,881 --> 00:52:49,216
>> Do I have to deliver the bad

1491
00:52:49,216 --> 00:52:50,517
news.

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>> I do.

1493
00:52:51,685 --> 00:52:53,019
>> I just got comfortable over

1494
00:52:53,019 --> 00:52:55,222
here but we are out of time we

1495
00:52:55,222 --> 00:52:56,356
have seen lots of amazing

1496
00:52:56,356 --> 00:52:57,824
prototypes and I have seen

1497
00:52:57,824 --> 00:52:59,559
designs I've never seen before

1498
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:01,061
with this competition so I

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00:53:01,061 --> 00:53:02,262
believe that we have heard it

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00:53:02,295 --> 00:53:03,730
over and over again that the

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00:53:03,730 --> 00:53:06,032
technology being developed today

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00:53:06,032 --> 00:53:07,567
is really going to help us

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00:53:07,567 --> 00:53:09,769
advance exploration as a whole

1504
00:53:09,769 --> 00:53:11,671
as we pursue other worlds like

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Mars.

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>> And it will be the student's

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00:53:14,407 --> 00:53:16,376
ideas in the idea of the future

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00:53:16,376 --> 00:53:18,912
which will take that giant leap

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00:53:18,912 --> 00:53:20,814
and I am very excited and I want

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00:53:20,814 --> 00:53:22,215
more people to get involved and

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00:53:22,215 --> 00:53:23,617
I think people wonder how to do

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that so if you want to get

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00:53:25,218 --> 00:53:26,686
involved in are curious about

1514
00:53:26,686 --> 00:53:28,521
more challenges like this,

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subscribe to the newsletter

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00:53:31,157 --> 00:53:36,363
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1517
00:53:36,363 --> 00:53:38,765
more about our very exciting

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00:53:38,765 --> 00:53:41,835
Artemis program, visit our

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All right, thank you for joining

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us today on NASA Science Live.

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We will see you next time.

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Thank you.

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