1 00:00:02,102 --> 00:00:05,405 We have a standard model that is exquisite 2 00:00:05,505 --> 00:00:08,508 at describing the properties of the universe that we live in, 3 00:00:10,076 --> 00:00:11,911 but there are hints of a problem 4 00:00:11,911 --> 00:00:14,914 with that model. 5 00:00:16,783 --> 00:00:18,651 Roman will tell us 6 00:00:18,651 --> 00:00:21,654 if our model is wrong. 7 00:00:25,992 --> 00:00:27,827 Andrew, here we go. 8 00:00:27,827 --> 00:00:30,597 You're good. We're ready. 9 00:00:30,597 --> 00:00:32,399 And what's spectacular about Roman 10 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,168 is Roman will be able to tell us if we were wrong 11 00:00:35,168 --> 00:00:38,171 and put us on the path to figuring out what's right. 12 00:00:40,607 --> 00:00:43,610 Starting run. 13 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:05,965 This time 14 00:01:05,965 --> 00:01:07,700 a year from today, 15 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:10,670 we're going to have a different understanding of the universe 16 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:13,606 than we have right now because of the observations 17 00:01:13,606 --> 00:01:16,609 from the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope. 18 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:18,178 Control reports. 19 00:01:18,178 --> 00:01:21,181 Test complete. 20 00:01:29,789 --> 00:01:31,191 Good afternoon, and welcome 21 00:01:31,191 --> 00:01:34,461 to NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. 22 00:01:34,494 --> 00:01:36,763 I'm NASA's senior advisor and press secretary, 23 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:39,766 Bethany Stevens, and I will be your moderator today. 24 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:43,303 We are joined today by NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, 25 00:01:43,970 --> 00:01:46,973 associate administrator of the Science Mission Directorate. 26 00:01:46,973 --> 00:01:48,174 Doctor Nicky Fox, 27 00:01:49,142 --> 00:01:52,145 Nancy Grace Roman Space telescope project manager 28 00:01:52,145 --> 00:01:56,516 Jamie Dunn, and senior project scientist Julie McEnery. 29 00:01:57,383 --> 00:01:59,185 Each of today's participants will provide 30 00:01:59,185 --> 00:02:02,922 brief remarks about our progress on the Nancy Grace Space 31 00:02:02,989 --> 00:02:03,690 Nancy Grace 32 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:05,024 Roman Space Telescope, 33 00:02:05,024 --> 00:02:07,794 and then we will open the floor to questions. 34 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:10,597 If you're joining us online, please press Star One 35 00:02:10,597 --> 00:02:11,531 to join the question. 36 00:02:11,531 --> 00:02:14,000 Queue on the phone bridge with that administrator. 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,469 The floor is yours. Great. Thank you Bethany. 38 00:02:16,469 --> 00:02:17,737 Good afternoon everybody. 39 00:02:17,737 --> 00:02:18,938 As you can see behind me, 40 00:02:18,938 --> 00:02:21,941 the impressive Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope 41 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:24,811 is now fully assembled, has completed testing, 42 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:26,746 and is undergoing the final preparations 43 00:02:26,746 --> 00:02:29,449 before it will be shipped to Kennedy Space Center to soon 44 00:02:29,449 --> 00:02:33,186 take its place among America's Great Observatories, 45 00:02:33,186 --> 00:02:36,189 alongside Hubble and the James Webb Space Telescope. 46 00:02:37,023 --> 00:02:39,492 Now, our team dedicated over a decade of their lives 47 00:02:39,492 --> 00:02:42,595 and millions of hours to make this project a reality. 48 00:02:42,929 --> 00:02:44,664 Because of their hard work, I have the privilege 49 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:45,899 of announcing today that we are 50 00:02:45,899 --> 00:02:49,469 now targeting, in early September, launch 51 00:02:49,802 --> 00:02:52,472 eight months ahead of schedule and under 52 00:02:52,472 --> 00:02:55,542 budget to everyone at Goddard and across all our centers. 53 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:56,876 Congratulations. 54 00:02:56,876 --> 00:02:59,879 I hope each of you take pride in what you've accomplished. 55 00:03:00,079 --> 00:03:02,415 Roman's Accelerated development is a true success 56 00:03:02,415 --> 00:03:03,883 story of what we can achieve 57 00:03:03,883 --> 00:03:06,786 when public investment, institutional expertise, 58 00:03:06,786 --> 00:03:08,354 and private enterprise come together 59 00:03:08,354 --> 00:03:12,125 to take on the near impossible missions that change the world. 60 00:03:12,926 --> 00:03:14,561 Unlocking the secrets of the universe 61 00:03:14,561 --> 00:03:16,496 and attempting to answer the question are we 62 00:03:16,496 --> 00:03:19,499 alone is inherent in just about all we do here at NASA? 63 00:03:19,899 --> 00:03:22,535 At our recent ignition event, we made a commitment to pursue 64 00:03:22,535 --> 00:03:26,506 gold standard science as quickly as we possibly can, knowing 65 00:03:26,506 --> 00:03:27,974 the world is waiting for the headlines 66 00:03:27,974 --> 00:03:30,343 that only NASA is capable of making. 67 00:03:30,343 --> 00:03:33,346 Today marks a milestone of NASA delivering upon that promise. 68 00:03:33,947 --> 00:03:36,216 Roman will investigate dark matter, dark energy, 69 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:38,184 and the structure of the universe itself 70 00:03:38,184 --> 00:03:39,852 and accelerate the future of discovery 71 00:03:39,852 --> 00:03:42,855 of potentially habitable planets outside our solar system. 72 00:03:43,523 --> 00:03:46,659 It's it's surveying capabilities are over 1000 times 73 00:03:46,659 --> 00:03:48,094 faster than Hubble, and can chart 74 00:03:48,094 --> 00:03:51,097 200 times more sky in a single image. 75 00:03:51,130 --> 00:03:54,434 And what would take Hubble 2000 years to process 76 00:03:54,434 --> 00:03:56,536 Roman can do in a year. 77 00:03:56,536 --> 00:03:58,438 The images it captures will be so large 78 00:03:58,438 --> 00:03:59,973 there is not a screen in existence 79 00:03:59,973 --> 00:04:02,041 large enough to show them. 80 00:04:02,041 --> 00:04:04,944 Roman will give the earth a new atlas of the universe. 81 00:04:04,944 --> 00:04:06,946 I think it's worth pausing for a moment 82 00:04:06,946 --> 00:04:09,949 and just think about how really incredible that is. 83 00:04:10,016 --> 00:04:11,884 The farther we reach into space, the greater 84 00:04:11,884 --> 00:04:14,854 our curiosity to understand the great unknown. 85 00:04:14,854 --> 00:04:17,490 So to our workforce force and commercial partners 86 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:19,626 making today's rare announcement possible. 87 00:04:19,626 --> 00:04:22,228 Thank you for bringing us to this moment. 88 00:04:22,228 --> 00:04:23,763 For the researchers and scientists 89 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:25,798 that will analyze the data from Roman. 90 00:04:25,798 --> 00:04:27,500 Your work will soon begin. 91 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:30,303 And for those that built this telescope, let's get ready 92 00:04:30,303 --> 00:04:31,471 for what comes next. 93 00:04:31,471 --> 00:04:33,506 Thank you. And I'll hand it over now to Doctor Fox. 94 00:04:35,475 --> 00:04:36,376 Thank you so much. 95 00:04:36,376 --> 00:04:37,877 Administrator Isaacman, 96 00:04:37,877 --> 00:04:41,614 I could not be more excited to be here today 97 00:04:41,614 --> 00:04:45,785 in front of this fully stacked and complete Nancy Grace Roman 98 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:48,655 space telescope. And doesn't she look beautiful? 99 00:04:48,655 --> 00:04:50,823 I mean, honestly, just gorgeous. 100 00:04:50,823 --> 00:04:53,159 We're on track as administrator, said 101 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:54,694 to launch early in September. 102 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:55,595 And that is 103 00:04:55,595 --> 00:04:59,065 I can't stop saying it ahead of schedule and under budget. 104 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:03,736 And I want to give praise again to this incredible team. 105 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:05,104 Team NASA, 106 00:05:05,104 --> 00:05:08,374 totally brought it, together with all of our partners 107 00:05:08,374 --> 00:05:12,045 in industry and academia and our international partners. 108 00:05:12,078 --> 00:05:13,646 It is an amazing day 109 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:15,448 to see what happens when we come together 110 00:05:15,448 --> 00:05:17,583 and work in such an effective way. 111 00:05:17,583 --> 00:05:20,253 Since early in 2020, the Roman team has worked 112 00:05:20,253 --> 00:05:22,689 almost around the clock to develop 113 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:25,291 and test the spacecraft and the hardware, 114 00:05:25,291 --> 00:05:29,362 completing the flagship mission in just six years, 115 00:05:29,495 --> 00:05:33,099 which is a true testament to the agency's commitment to do 116 00:05:33,099 --> 00:05:36,436 science cutting edge science even faster. 117 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:40,206 Their work ethic and their teamwork in 118 00:05:40,206 --> 00:05:41,341 combination with the lessons 119 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:43,543 learned from our long history at NASA, 120 00:05:43,543 --> 00:05:46,646 a developing space based flagship observatories are 121 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:47,513 why we're sitting in 122 00:05:47,513 --> 00:05:51,217 such a good spot today with all eyes on the launch pad, 123 00:05:51,484 --> 00:05:53,086 about eight months earlier 124 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:55,355 than we'd actually expected, which is so good. 125 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:56,222 Well done. 126 00:05:56,222 --> 00:05:58,591 And this is just the beginning. 127 00:05:58,591 --> 00:06:01,027 We want to get more science into space, launch 128 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:04,063 at a faster rate, and increase the pace of discovery 129 00:06:04,063 --> 00:06:07,166 as we prepare to launch more cutting edge missions. 130 00:06:08,234 --> 00:06:09,235 The Nancy Grace, 131 00:06:09,235 --> 00:06:12,305 Roman Space Telescope is a sheer powerhouse. 132 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:14,374 It is literally a speed machine. 133 00:06:14,374 --> 00:06:15,541 The speed at which 134 00:06:15,541 --> 00:06:18,778 we'll be scanning the sky, delivering vast amounts of data 135 00:06:18,978 --> 00:06:22,115 and returning results will be at an unprecedented rate. 136 00:06:22,115 --> 00:06:24,016 Never done before. 137 00:06:24,016 --> 00:06:28,788 Hubble gathered 172TB of data in its first 30 years. 138 00:06:29,255 --> 00:06:34,427 Roman will downlink 1.4TB of science data every day. 139 00:06:35,194 --> 00:06:38,097 That means it will potentially have about two, 140 00:06:38,097 --> 00:06:42,635 2500TB over the course of its five year mission. 141 00:06:42,935 --> 00:06:44,370 Basically gathering 142 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:47,373 like a hypothetical stack of science papers that would 143 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:49,542 reach up to be on the moon, maybe 144 00:06:49,542 --> 00:06:52,545 even as far as Artemus to went. 145 00:06:53,312 --> 00:06:56,649 When, when you apply, what Roman will see. 146 00:06:56,749 --> 00:06:57,450 You know, 147 00:06:57,450 --> 00:07:01,354 we've already confirmed today over about 6000 planets. 148 00:07:01,554 --> 00:07:05,458 Roman will discover tens of thousands of new planets 149 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:07,093 outside our solar system. 150 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:10,630 It will reveal billions of galaxies, thousands 151 00:07:10,630 --> 00:07:13,800 of supernova, and tens of billions of stars. 152 00:07:14,534 --> 00:07:16,669 That is an extremely exciting 153 00:07:16,669 --> 00:07:20,673 and literally all of the science that we can use to apply 154 00:07:20,673 --> 00:07:24,243 and build off our interconnected NASA science portfolio. 155 00:07:25,077 --> 00:07:28,114 Roman will help us address the question of how common 156 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:31,384 solar systems like ours actually are, 157 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:34,387 while also literally expanding the human mind 158 00:07:34,387 --> 00:07:37,924 to what the universe contains at an astounding rate. 159 00:07:38,825 --> 00:07:41,894 Roman isn't just doing Hubble and Webb's science 160 00:07:41,894 --> 00:07:43,396 faster, however, and I know it's 161 00:07:43,396 --> 00:07:45,598 very easy when we focus on the speed. 162 00:07:45,598 --> 00:07:48,201 It's doing fundamentally different science 163 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:51,204 that could not be done with either observatory. 164 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:54,006 Together, the three missions will complement each other, 165 00:07:54,006 --> 00:07:56,676 giving us a more complete picture of the cosmos 166 00:07:56,676 --> 00:07:59,645 and advancing our understanding of the universe. 167 00:08:00,112 --> 00:08:02,615 Where, when Roman is operating on orbit 168 00:08:02,615 --> 00:08:03,716 at the end of this year, 169 00:08:03,716 --> 00:08:07,086 it will also be NASA's first major demonstration 170 00:08:07,253 --> 00:08:08,588 for achieving one of the goals 171 00:08:08,588 --> 00:08:10,656 of the Habitable Worlds Observatory. 172 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:14,760 Concept for the first telescope designed to find like worlds 173 00:08:14,861 --> 00:08:15,695 in different. 174 00:08:15,695 --> 00:08:16,262 You know, outside 175 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:18,464 our solar system and different stellar systems 176 00:08:18,464 --> 00:08:21,467 while exploring the broad secrets of the universe. 177 00:08:21,801 --> 00:08:25,538 Right now, Roman has the most stable telescope and the 178 00:08:25,538 --> 00:08:29,575 absolute best coronagraph that has ever flown in space. 179 00:08:30,209 --> 00:08:31,711 The Habitable Worlds Observatory 180 00:08:31,711 --> 00:08:33,646 will rely on even more than that, 181 00:08:33,646 --> 00:08:35,147 and it is so important to us 182 00:08:35,147 --> 00:08:37,617 that we get this coronagraph into space 183 00:08:37,617 --> 00:08:40,686 and get that first milestone towards the next mission. 184 00:08:40,686 --> 00:08:42,455 Because everything we do at NASA 185 00:08:42,455 --> 00:08:45,558 science builds off the successes of what we've done before. 186 00:08:46,392 --> 00:08:49,729 I am so proud that Roman will join kind of 187 00:08:49,729 --> 00:08:54,200 the arc of past, present and now future missions as well. 188 00:08:54,567 --> 00:08:56,302 And it will definitely, 189 00:08:56,302 --> 00:08:59,539 definitely open doors to new cosmic pursuits. 190 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:01,607 So again, congratulations 191 00:09:01,607 --> 00:09:05,511 to the entire Roman team again, including our private sector. 192 00:09:05,678 --> 00:09:08,614 And academia and our international partners. 193 00:09:08,614 --> 00:09:10,349 This is such an incredible team. 194 00:09:10,349 --> 00:09:11,851 I am so proud of them. 195 00:09:11,851 --> 00:09:12,552 Go, NASA! 196 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:14,987 Go! Falcon heavy. Go, Roman! 197 00:09:14,987 --> 00:09:16,055 Jamie. Thank you. 198 00:09:18,190 --> 00:09:19,425 Thank you. 199 00:09:19,425 --> 00:09:23,763 So, It's tough, tough words to follow. 200 00:09:23,763 --> 00:09:26,465 And I'm going to be followed up by even tougher words. 201 00:09:26,465 --> 00:09:27,934 So I'm not going to talk about the science 202 00:09:27,934 --> 00:09:30,102 because Julie is going to blow your mind with that. 203 00:09:30,102 --> 00:09:32,138 But I would like to take this opportunity 204 00:09:32,138 --> 00:09:35,675 to, expand a little bit about how we did get here. 205 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:38,911 And just take this opportunity to thank our team. 206 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:41,981 As as Nicki and the administrator 207 00:09:41,981 --> 00:09:43,916 have already mentioned it. 208 00:09:43,916 --> 00:09:45,051 There's a lot of work. 209 00:09:45,051 --> 00:09:47,153 Millions of hours is no exaggeration. 210 00:09:47,153 --> 00:09:49,522 That's, actual, actual math. 211 00:09:49,522 --> 00:09:50,856 We could figure it out. 212 00:09:50,856 --> 00:09:52,625 Exactly, but it's many millions. 213 00:09:52,625 --> 00:09:55,628 And, this really is a great example 214 00:09:55,628 --> 00:09:58,965 of what happens when, we as an agency, 215 00:09:59,231 --> 00:10:02,234 work hand in hand with industry and academia. 216 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,770 We we work to each other's strengths. 217 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:09,141 And, it's really an example of how the, the result is 218 00:10:09,141 --> 00:10:10,743 greater than the sum of all the parts. 219 00:10:10,743 --> 00:10:14,680 So, the, the the amount of, of, 220 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:18,784 delayed, excuse me, diligence 221 00:10:18,784 --> 00:10:22,421 and, and dedication and commitment to making 222 00:10:22,421 --> 00:10:25,925 this happen is really, it's really fun to be a part of. 223 00:10:25,925 --> 00:10:30,129 And so this team is really proud to have all of you here 224 00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:32,531 to come see this. This. 225 00:10:32,531 --> 00:10:34,700 I can't tell you how excited they are when people come. 226 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:36,669 Last week, we had been friends and family day. 227 00:10:36,669 --> 00:10:39,238 We had about 700 people come through. 228 00:10:39,238 --> 00:10:41,707 And, watching the kids, 229 00:10:41,707 --> 00:10:44,410 get all excited, you know, get to see spacecraft every day. 230 00:10:44,410 --> 00:10:47,046 So, I just want to again, thank everybody 231 00:10:47,046 --> 00:10:50,316 that made this possible, for everybody that you see. 232 00:10:50,716 --> 00:10:53,085 There's dozens more behind them. 233 00:10:53,085 --> 00:10:55,287 It's not just engineers and scientists. 234 00:10:55,287 --> 00:10:56,555 It's everybody. 235 00:10:56,555 --> 00:10:58,991 It's our financial team. It's our contracts people. 236 00:10:58,991 --> 00:11:00,526 It's our CCM people. 237 00:11:00,526 --> 00:11:02,995 It's everybody. Technicians. 238 00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:05,164 It's it's it's really a great team. 239 00:11:05,164 --> 00:11:08,067 And so this has been, a wonderful experience. 240 00:11:09,335 --> 00:11:11,771 And, I'm glad you guys get to be a part of it 241 00:11:11,771 --> 00:11:14,774 by coming here and saying, we can't wait to launch. 242 00:11:15,474 --> 00:11:15,708 Thank you. 243 00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:17,810 Jeremy. 244 00:11:17,810 --> 00:11:20,813 Hi, everyone. 245 00:11:21,247 --> 00:11:22,815 Current observations hint 246 00:11:22,815 --> 00:11:25,818 that our standard model of the universe is incorrect. 247 00:11:27,186 --> 00:11:29,255 Roman will be able to confirm these 248 00:11:29,255 --> 00:11:32,258 and set us on the path to understanding what's right. 249 00:11:33,726 --> 00:11:35,995 We're going to perform a revolutionary census 250 00:11:35,995 --> 00:11:38,964 of planets around other stars in our galaxy. 251 00:11:38,964 --> 00:11:41,267 We're going to conduct ambitious surveys 252 00:11:41,267 --> 00:11:44,670 that will transform and impact every area of astronomy. 253 00:11:45,805 --> 00:11:48,808 And we can do all this because Roman's primary instrument 254 00:11:48,808 --> 00:11:51,677 combines exquisite performance and sensitivity 255 00:11:51,677 --> 00:11:52,978 with an outstanding ability 256 00:11:52,978 --> 00:11:55,981 to sweep out large regions of the sky. 257 00:11:56,048 --> 00:11:59,051 Previous speakers have mentioned that Roman can survey the sky 258 00:11:59,585 --> 00:12:01,120 a thousand times faster than Hubble. 259 00:12:02,154 --> 00:12:02,555 So to put 260 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:06,292 this into context, one month of Roman observations 261 00:12:06,292 --> 00:12:09,295 would correspond to a century with Hubble. 262 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:13,399 So Nicky mentioned 263 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,402 that Roman doesn't do Hubble science faster. 264 00:12:16,602 --> 00:12:20,940 Roman will address entirely new, ambitious science questions. 265 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:23,609 So that one month of Roman observations 266 00:12:23,609 --> 00:12:26,612 could be used to survey our own Milky Way galaxy, 267 00:12:26,645 --> 00:12:29,615 uncovering up to half the stars in the galaxy 268 00:12:30,282 --> 00:12:34,019 that would itself result in an astronomical catalog of objects 269 00:12:34,019 --> 00:12:37,189 that is much larger than any in existence today. 270 00:12:37,857 --> 00:12:40,860 And that's what just one month of Roman observations. 271 00:12:41,794 --> 00:12:44,296 Our main survey will take more than a year. 272 00:12:44,296 --> 00:12:47,133 It's huge. 273 00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:48,868 If we were to take the single image 274 00:12:48,868 --> 00:12:50,569 that is produced from our main survey 275 00:12:50,569 --> 00:12:53,939 and try and fully display it with a set of, 4K TVs, 276 00:12:54,173 --> 00:12:56,809 you need more than half a million 4K TVs. 277 00:12:58,010 --> 00:12:58,911 And just to give you a sense 278 00:12:58,911 --> 00:13:00,379 of the scale of that, if I was to lay out 279 00:13:00,379 --> 00:13:04,817 those 4K TVs, it would cover 45 city blocks. 280 00:13:05,518 --> 00:13:07,753 Or to pick something that you actually look at. 281 00:13:07,753 --> 00:13:09,321 It would entirely cover. 282 00:13:09,321 --> 00:13:12,324 El Capitan in Yosemite National Park. 283 00:13:12,691 --> 00:13:15,661 I don't suggest we actually cover El Capitan 284 00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:17,429 with a set of 4K TVs, but it gives you 285 00:13:17,429 --> 00:13:20,432 a sense of the scale. 286 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:22,635 That survey 287 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:25,638 will detect over 2 billion galaxies, 288 00:13:26,705 --> 00:13:29,708 and we'll use it to study 289 00:13:30,042 --> 00:13:31,710 how the structures in the universe, 290 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:34,713 the stars, the galaxies, the structures of galaxies 291 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:37,817 grow, grew and evolved. 292 00:13:37,917 --> 00:13:39,084 We'll also study 293 00:13:39,084 --> 00:13:42,087 how the universe itself has expanded over time. 294 00:13:42,454 --> 00:13:45,457 And these are the keys to unlocking the fundamental nature 295 00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:46,625 of dark matter, 296 00:13:46,625 --> 00:13:49,395 dark energy, and the fabric of the universe itself. 297 00:13:51,363 --> 00:13:54,099 Periodically, we'll point towards the center 298 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:57,603 of our own galaxy and monitor hundreds of millions of stars. 299 00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:01,473 But we're not going to just image millions of stars. 300 00:14:01,707 --> 00:14:04,710 We're going to find a treasure trove of exoplanets 301 00:14:05,311 --> 00:14:08,314 up to 40 times more than our own today. 302 00:14:08,347 --> 00:14:10,416 So think of this as the largest census 303 00:14:10,416 --> 00:14:13,419 we've ever done of planets in our galaxy. 304 00:14:16,322 --> 00:14:19,325 We have a second instrument, the Roman coronagraph. 305 00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:21,794 And I think if this is doing magic with physics, 306 00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:24,463 we take advantage of the wave properties of light 307 00:14:24,463 --> 00:14:27,466 to cancel out the light of a bright star 308 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:31,136 so that we can image faint planets next to it. 309 00:14:32,071 --> 00:14:33,439 To do this magic, 310 00:14:33,439 --> 00:14:34,907 we have to have an optical system 311 00:14:34,907 --> 00:14:37,977 that can adjust itself to maintain sufficient precision. 312 00:14:39,111 --> 00:14:41,180 This will be the first time 313 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:44,984 we've had a system in space with this kind of active optics, 314 00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:46,418 and it will set us on a path 315 00:14:46,418 --> 00:14:49,455 for future observatories to do extraordinary new things. 316 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:52,458 What makes me 317 00:14:52,458 --> 00:14:55,461 most excited about Roman is its discovery space. 318 00:14:55,594 --> 00:14:56,962 We have 2 billion galaxies. 319 00:14:56,962 --> 00:14:59,899 It means we have 2100 million objects. 320 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,834 We're going to be surveying patches of the sky, 321 00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:04,503 going back over and over and over again 322 00:15:04,503 --> 00:15:07,473 to find new things that go bump in the night. 323 00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:09,742 I very much hope, and in fact, expect 324 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:11,944 that the most exciting science from Roman 325 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:13,812 is going to be the things that we didn't expect, 326 00:15:13,812 --> 00:15:15,314 that we couldn't predict. 327 00:15:15,314 --> 00:15:15,781 But that will 328 00:15:15,781 --> 00:15:19,318 set the new, deep questions for future missions to address. 329 00:15:19,785 --> 00:15:22,788 Thank you. 330 00:15:23,555 --> 00:15:24,523 And with that, 331 00:15:24,523 --> 00:15:27,526 we will open the floor to questions. 332 00:15:27,993 --> 00:15:30,329 If anybody in the room has what Jeff will start 333 00:15:30,329 --> 00:15:33,332 with, you. 334 00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:34,900 To begin. 335 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:36,101 Jeff Foust. Space news. 336 00:15:36,101 --> 00:15:37,403 Question for the administrator. 337 00:15:37,403 --> 00:15:39,004 You and others have emphasized 338 00:15:39,004 --> 00:15:42,574 that Roman has come in under budget, ahead of schedule. 339 00:15:43,175 --> 00:15:45,110 Roman. It's still a multibillion dollar mission. 340 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:50,182 Is there still room at NASA for large flagship class missions? 341 00:15:50,182 --> 00:15:53,319 When the agency's science budget is facing a significant budget 342 00:15:53,319 --> 00:15:56,322 cut in 2027 and potentially beyond? 343 00:15:56,355 --> 00:15:56,956 Yeah. 344 00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:58,390 Well, Jeff, I, 345 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:01,627 I certainly understand why, why the question is coming up. 346 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:03,996 I'll say that, you and everybody else 347 00:16:03,996 --> 00:16:04,964 who's interested in, 348 00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:07,967 kind of my views on the budget and how it impacts the agency. 349 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:09,401 Plenty of opportunities to hear about it 350 00:16:09,401 --> 00:16:12,471 over the next week since I'm on the grand hearing, 351 00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:15,541 testimony tour, in fact, starting, starting tomorrow. 352 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,211 Nancy Grace Roman is not the last flagship mission for us. 353 00:16:19,211 --> 00:16:22,214 In fact, here at Goddard, we're working on dragonfly. 354 00:16:22,348 --> 00:16:24,516 Goddard is responsible for a lot of the, 355 00:16:24,516 --> 00:16:26,085 tech maturation associated 356 00:16:26,085 --> 00:16:28,253 with the Habitable Worlds Observatory telescope. 357 00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:30,990 We've, we've got a number of signature. 358 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,426 While not necessarily measuring to the flagship 359 00:16:34,426 --> 00:16:36,762 spend category that's being worked on at JPL 360 00:16:36,762 --> 00:16:38,864 right now, like Skyfall, Moonfall, and others. 361 00:16:38,864 --> 00:16:41,400 So science is incredibly important to what we do here. 362 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,235 As I mentioned in my remarks, going out 363 00:16:43,235 --> 00:16:46,505 and trying to unlock the secrets of the universe is fundamental 364 00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:47,539 to NASA's mission. 365 00:16:47,539 --> 00:16:49,775 I expect there'll be plenty of flagship missions in the future. 366 00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:54,079 We'll go back here to this gentleman. 367 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:57,082 We'll start over here and then move through the room. 368 00:17:01,553 --> 00:17:03,756 And then also, if you could hand the mic back 369 00:17:03,756 --> 00:17:04,590 after answer 370 00:17:04,590 --> 00:17:06,959 or asking your question to our mic runner, 371 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:08,794 that'll help us get to the next people. 372 00:17:08,794 --> 00:17:10,996 My questions for the administrator. Jared. 373 00:17:10,996 --> 00:17:14,600 There's something online called the Artemis two effect. 374 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,235 As part of the Kerbal Space Program community. 375 00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:19,104 We're all excited about what happened with Artemis two. 376 00:17:19,104 --> 00:17:20,906 Kids, I've talked to fifth graders. 377 00:17:20,906 --> 00:17:22,274 I talked to 100 of them last week. 378 00:17:22,274 --> 00:17:23,876 They're all really excited. 379 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:27,279 So how do we use this telescope to continue 380 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:30,282 that excitement for the young generation? 381 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,618 Yeah. Well, 382 00:17:32,618 --> 00:17:35,087 I think it I think it starts with, listening 383 00:17:35,087 --> 00:17:37,289 to some of the great commentary that Julie just said. 384 00:17:37,289 --> 00:17:40,192 I mean, I've got 100 questions coming out of just your 385 00:17:40,192 --> 00:17:41,093 your intro right there. 386 00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:44,797 Look, I am I am thrilled, that the world 387 00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:48,033 kind of paused for a moment and took notice to Artemis two. 388 00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:49,101 And yeah, 389 00:17:49,101 --> 00:17:52,304 I think energize the world's interest in space exploration. 390 00:17:52,871 --> 00:17:55,374 Human exploration tends to do that at times, 391 00:17:55,374 --> 00:17:57,576 but if it's an opportunity to set the stage 392 00:17:57,576 --> 00:17:59,611 for other conversations like Nancy Grace 393 00:17:59,611 --> 00:18:01,780 Roman is about to do, that's fantastic as well. 394 00:18:01,780 --> 00:18:05,751 We put out some, some great, like a video reel on it today 395 00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:07,219 to get people hyped up about it 396 00:18:07,219 --> 00:18:09,588 and won't be long before this telescope 397 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:11,423 is loaded up on a transport and taken down. 398 00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:13,592 And then it's, of course, being launched by a Falcon Heavy. 399 00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:16,295 That brings a lot of viewers to take interest 400 00:18:16,295 --> 00:18:17,596 where we'll have opportunities there. 401 00:18:17,596 --> 00:18:18,130 Where. 402 00:18:18,130 --> 00:18:20,165 Julie, I sure hope that you're on the, 403 00:18:20,165 --> 00:18:21,200 the live stream for that 404 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:21,867 mission launch 405 00:18:21,867 --> 00:18:24,036 to get people excited about the kind of science 406 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:25,204 this mission is going to undertake. 407 00:18:25,204 --> 00:18:27,639 So this is great. This is working really well. 408 00:18:27,639 --> 00:18:28,440 We're thrilled that Artemis 409 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,876 two brought a big audience back to, to NASA. 410 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:31,910 And now we're going to fill it up 411 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:33,946 with a lot of exciting missions to come. 412 00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:35,414 Nancy Grace Roman's next up. 413 00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:37,416 I'm going to hand this off 414 00:18:37,416 --> 00:18:40,385 so somebody else right here. 415 00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:44,289 Hi. Nick Alexander for space scout. 416 00:18:44,289 --> 00:18:47,860 You know, Goddard has a long history with telescopes. 417 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:50,662 We've, you know, seen some great work on Hubble. 418 00:18:50,662 --> 00:18:53,665 We've seen the James Webb Space Telescope come out of Goddard. 419 00:18:53,765 --> 00:18:56,969 What can we do to ensure that legacy, that culture 420 00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:59,972 of telescopes continues to be centered at Goddard Space 421 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:02,975 Flight Center. 422 00:19:03,108 --> 00:19:06,845 So I think, you know, it is that's where our expertise is 423 00:19:06,945 --> 00:19:07,913 at NASA Science 424 00:19:07,913 --> 00:19:10,916 Goddard is kind of the the heart of NASA's science. 425 00:19:11,016 --> 00:19:12,784 And certainly we look to, 426 00:19:12,784 --> 00:19:16,655 to, to, to to lead the way in a lot of our, big missions. 427 00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:20,459 They clearly have the heart of astrophysics here. 428 00:19:20,692 --> 00:19:21,393 They, 429 00:19:21,393 --> 00:19:25,063 you know, doing a fantastic job clearly, with this, the, 430 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:26,131 the project office 431 00:19:26,131 --> 00:19:30,002 for the tech maturation program for hab worlds is at Goddard. 432 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:32,137 And, we expect that to continue 433 00:19:32,137 --> 00:19:34,306 and expect to see them continue to do great things. 434 00:19:37,709 --> 00:19:40,712 We can go right here. 435 00:19:43,715 --> 00:19:46,718 Sorry, Jared, I'm going to hit you up again. 436 00:19:46,952 --> 00:19:49,054 So you're the new administrator, and you have this mission 437 00:19:49,054 --> 00:19:51,957 that you may have heard is under budget on on time. 438 00:19:51,957 --> 00:19:54,593 What lessons can you take away from this? 439 00:19:54,593 --> 00:19:56,395 And, kind of a corollary is this has 440 00:19:56,395 --> 00:19:58,030 this mission has an interesting history. 441 00:19:58,030 --> 00:19:59,731 Where the optics came from originally. 442 00:19:59,731 --> 00:20:00,866 Is are people going to just take that 443 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:03,869 and say, no wonder cavern under budget or. 444 00:20:07,105 --> 00:20:10,075 So I'm going to stick to the first part of question, 445 00:20:10,075 --> 00:20:12,811 and say that, I'm thrilled 446 00:20:12,811 --> 00:20:15,814 that this mission is getting close to, its ability to launch 447 00:20:15,814 --> 00:20:18,584 so that we can, we can take Jamie here and, 448 00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:22,387 apply him to a number of other exciting projects. 449 00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:24,823 His name I mentioned when we had a chance 450 00:20:24,823 --> 00:20:27,359 to to shake hands in the in the warm up to this, 451 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,561 that your name is continuing to come up quite a bit 452 00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:32,965 as, extremely talented project manager, so. 453 00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:33,832 Yes. Look, 454 00:20:33,832 --> 00:20:34,266 I think that's 455 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:38,103 actually very important because, we do have success stories 456 00:20:38,103 --> 00:20:41,974 like, like Nancy Grace Roman, coming in ahead of schedule and 457 00:20:41,974 --> 00:20:42,574 under budget. 458 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:45,510 We certainly have programs that are examples that that are not. 459 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:46,712 And when you think about that 460 00:20:46,712 --> 00:20:47,613 and you think about going 461 00:20:47,613 --> 00:20:51,250 overbudget or in some cases, extremely unfortunate cases 462 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:54,219 where programs are are canceled, there is dollars, 463 00:20:54,219 --> 00:20:56,888 there are dollars lost from that that never come back. 464 00:20:56,888 --> 00:20:59,324 And when you total them up, what does that equal? 465 00:20:59,324 --> 00:21:01,793 It equals another Nancy Grace Roman telescope. 466 00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:05,430 Or maybe a second dragonfly for that matter on that. 467 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:09,534 So I think that, having the, capturing good lessons learned, 468 00:21:09,668 --> 00:21:11,970 we talk about debrief so often we get things, 469 00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:13,805 get things wrong and avoid repeating them. 470 00:21:13,805 --> 00:21:16,975 But when we get things right and have success stories like, 471 00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:19,845 Nancy Grace Roman, let's learn from some of the magic 472 00:21:19,845 --> 00:21:22,147 that, that, created that outcome 473 00:21:22,147 --> 00:21:23,715 and try and apply it to other programs. 474 00:21:23,715 --> 00:21:26,985 And I suspect, I expect Jamie's going to be in, big 475 00:21:26,985 --> 00:21:30,422 demand across, big agency, initiatives going forward 476 00:21:32,057 --> 00:21:35,060 to just take the second. 477 00:21:37,095 --> 00:21:38,430 Can you repeat the question? 478 00:21:38,430 --> 00:21:41,733 So you got the optics from this from another agency, 479 00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:42,934 or somebody's going to say, hey, 480 00:21:42,934 --> 00:21:44,903 no wonder it came in under budget. 481 00:21:44,903 --> 00:21:47,906 Someone might say that, but they'd be wrong. 482 00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:52,277 Seriously, the, 483 00:21:52,277 --> 00:21:54,980 so it's it's one of these things it's difficult to prove. 484 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:58,450 A negative. So, who knows? 485 00:21:58,450 --> 00:22:00,619 Right. It's a different it's a different beast. 486 00:22:00,619 --> 00:22:02,287 When you start with something, 487 00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:05,891 that you have to completely remodel, if you will, versus 488 00:22:05,891 --> 00:22:07,125 starting from scratch. 489 00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:10,595 It's, honestly, it's anybody's guess which one comes out 490 00:22:10,595 --> 00:22:13,765 ahead, but, that posed its own challenges. 491 00:22:13,765 --> 00:22:15,667 It did not make it easy. 492 00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:20,072 And I'll reiterate that, while I appreciate the accolades, 493 00:22:20,138 --> 00:22:23,308 and I'm the person sitting here, I had, 494 00:22:24,209 --> 00:22:26,011 I only had a very small part to do with this. 495 00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:27,879 It's really it's really our team. 496 00:22:27,879 --> 00:22:29,381 We have a wonderful team. 497 00:22:29,381 --> 00:22:32,351 We've done a good job of bringing 498 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:35,854 both the experience base from the decades. 499 00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:37,456 Literally decades of, 500 00:22:37,456 --> 00:22:41,193 of experience here at Goddard and again with our partners. 501 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:42,394 I mean, we've worked with ball 502 00:22:42,394 --> 00:22:46,064 and and L3 Harris on many missions, and others. 503 00:22:46,064 --> 00:22:48,967 Right. Teledyne can't keep going down the list. 504 00:22:48,967 --> 00:22:50,502 And so we 505 00:22:50,502 --> 00:22:52,504 we really have part of the magic, 506 00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:56,475 I think is, is a really good mix of that experience 507 00:22:56,475 --> 00:22:59,945 brought forward over decades combined with, what, 508 00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:01,747 what you would call youthful exuberance. 509 00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:02,914 We have, 510 00:23:02,914 --> 00:23:05,016 we have a lot of, of fresh blood 511 00:23:05,016 --> 00:23:06,651 that's come in and they have just, 512 00:23:06,651 --> 00:23:07,953 you know, knocked it out of the park. 513 00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:10,822 So it's really a good mix of folks that makes this happen. 514 00:23:12,124 --> 00:23:13,325 Thank you. 515 00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:15,794 Hi. Elicia Sauers from Mashable. 516 00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:18,463 I think this is a question probably for Julie. 517 00:23:18,463 --> 00:23:19,297 Nicky. 518 00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:23,001 I'm, I'm wondering, could you give 519 00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:27,305 a practical example of how the flagship, 520 00:23:27,305 --> 00:23:32,043 telescopes will work together on particular observations? 521 00:23:32,043 --> 00:23:35,013 Could you give us an example? 522 00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:41,853 There was a really cool result from Hubble, 523 00:23:42,854 --> 00:23:45,857 I think about a year, maybe two years ago, where 524 00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:47,759 what they thought they were seeing 525 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:49,394 was a supermassive black hole 526 00:23:49,394 --> 00:23:51,630 that was traveling through space. 527 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:52,531 And you could see 528 00:23:52,531 --> 00:23:56,268 from the observations, the evidence of that, transit. 529 00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,804 And it was extraordinarily lucky 530 00:23:58,804 --> 00:24:01,773 that Hubble was able to catch that 531 00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:05,110 Roman would be able to find some things like that in spades, 532 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:08,680 because we're serving such a large part of the sky. 533 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,117 And then we can follow up with detailed measurements 534 00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:15,086 with, the James Webb Space Telescope, 535 00:24:15,086 --> 00:24:17,289 now that we know where, where to look. 536 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,225 So you could consider one of Roman's, 537 00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:23,228 roles to be something like a finding chart 538 00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:27,732 for, for the James Webb Space Telescope that we find some of. 539 00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:28,767 We'll find some of the most 540 00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:31,770 extraordinary, unique places in the universe. 541 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:32,704 And then we can direct 542 00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:36,875 our most powerful scopes to really hone in on the details 543 00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:39,244 and take advantage of Roman's breadth. 544 00:24:39,244 --> 00:24:40,145 And Hubble stepped. 545 00:24:42,013 --> 00:24:44,049 You know, 546 00:24:44,049 --> 00:24:44,649 I can, 547 00:24:44,649 --> 00:24:45,083 I can 548 00:24:45,083 --> 00:24:46,985 I guess I would have gone into wavelength 549 00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:49,955 and that's nowhere near as good as what? 550 00:24:51,356 --> 00:24:53,758 I excuse me, I just want to say 551 00:24:53,758 --> 00:24:59,130 congratulations on an awesome first four months of 2026. 552 00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:02,667 When you go across whether it's science directorate, 553 00:25:02,968 --> 00:25:05,670 obviously Artemis, it's been unbelievable. 554 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:08,673 So with regard specifically to Roman, though, 555 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:12,244 we had an announcement, Jared, on the launch date, 556 00:25:12,611 --> 00:25:15,447 I wonder if there were any promotional announcements 557 00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:18,450 coming for the people involved in the project. 558 00:25:23,421 --> 00:25:23,722 Sorry. 559 00:25:23,722 --> 00:25:25,724 When you're saying I would assume some. 560 00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:28,727 Well, I'm wondering who's getting promoted for delivering. 561 00:25:29,661 --> 00:25:32,097 Oh, ahead of schedule and under budget. 562 00:25:32,097 --> 00:25:35,100 Yeah. 563 00:25:35,901 --> 00:25:37,802 So that's, 564 00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:39,738 that's a very good and serious question 565 00:25:39,738 --> 00:25:41,273 because as I mentioned before, 566 00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:43,275 we do want to debrief our success stories 567 00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:44,509 and learn from them and, 568 00:25:44,509 --> 00:25:45,944 and take those lessons and climb 569 00:25:45,944 --> 00:25:47,345 elsewhere and also, one of the 570 00:25:47,345 --> 00:25:47,746 I think it 571 00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:51,583 actually was my first directive that I put out, which was, 572 00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:52,984 you know, recognize, reward 573 00:25:52,984 --> 00:25:56,388 and inspire the top tier, talent within the agency, 574 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,124 when you do have extraordinary outcomes. 575 00:25:59,124 --> 00:26:01,927 So I would expect, to your to your point, 576 00:26:01,927 --> 00:26:03,795 that will certainly come into play here. 577 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:08,233 We'll move to well. 578 00:26:10,835 --> 00:26:11,870 I will Robinson Smith 579 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:14,873 with spaceflight Now thanking you all for the time today. 580 00:26:15,006 --> 00:26:18,009 Going back to your opening remarks. 581 00:26:18,209 --> 00:26:21,212 You know, something you said caught my ear, which is 582 00:26:22,147 --> 00:26:24,015 there's things that we got wrong 583 00:26:24,015 --> 00:26:27,018 about our understanding of the galaxy on the universe. 584 00:26:27,018 --> 00:26:29,821 I know based on everything that we've heard today 585 00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:31,623 from from the panel and from others, 586 00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:34,893 we're going to learn a lot more from, Roman. 587 00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:37,596 But what specifically did we get wrong 588 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,664 that this can correct the record on? 589 00:26:39,664 --> 00:26:42,667 Thank you. 590 00:26:44,235 --> 00:26:47,105 I'm just trying to think about how to say this, concisely. 591 00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:51,843 So we have a extraordinarily 592 00:26:51,876 --> 00:26:55,513 good model of how the universe works that describes 593 00:26:55,714 --> 00:26:58,883 the cosmic microwave background at the earliest times 594 00:26:59,517 --> 00:27:00,251 and describes 595 00:27:00,251 --> 00:27:03,421 with great accuracy the universe that we live in today. 596 00:27:04,222 --> 00:27:07,626 And that's included things like the Hubble constant. 597 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,595 It's included things like a cosmological constant 598 00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:12,430 for, for dark energy. 599 00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:16,534 It's included the concept and the effect of dark matter 600 00:27:17,502 --> 00:27:20,505 on the universe that we live in. 601 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:22,907 But there's been cracks. 602 00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:27,178 We're seeing evidence that the cosmic that the Hubble constant, 603 00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:30,815 as inferred from very early times, is not consistent 604 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:34,653 with the Hubble constant that we measure closer to now, 605 00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:35,754 which is telling us 606 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:36,521 that the model 607 00:27:36,521 --> 00:27:39,524 that connects those two things might not be quite right. 608 00:27:39,924 --> 00:27:45,230 We have a slight tension in our expectations 609 00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:48,233 for how structure should grow and evolve. 610 00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:51,269 And excitingly, recently, we've seen evidence 611 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:54,305 that the cosmological constant might in fact not be constant 612 00:27:54,305 --> 00:27:58,710 and might be varying with time and each one of those results 613 00:27:59,944 --> 00:28:01,913 is not quite by itself 614 00:28:01,913 --> 00:28:04,916 enough to take it to the bank and say that we're wrong. 615 00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:09,754 And what you need is a mission that can, or an experiment 616 00:28:09,754 --> 00:28:12,824 that can probe the universe to about a factor of ten 617 00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:14,492 better than we did before. 618 00:28:14,492 --> 00:28:17,495 And that will allow us to confirm if indeed 619 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,532 Lambda CDM, our standard model, isn't correct 620 00:28:20,665 --> 00:28:25,036 and will leave us with a mission that has, the sensitivity 621 00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:26,604 and the performance 622 00:28:26,604 --> 00:28:27,472 to make the kinds 623 00:28:27,472 --> 00:28:30,475 of observations that we need to start laying out 624 00:28:30,508 --> 00:28:31,943 what the real answer might be 625 00:28:31,943 --> 00:28:33,445 or what an improved model might be. 626 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:39,384 We'll move up here. 627 00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:44,556 Hi, minutiae of a study with Space.com. 628 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,758 I have maybe a bit of a peculiar question, 629 00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:49,060 and it's an engineering question, but anyone is. 630 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:50,261 You can chime in. 631 00:28:50,261 --> 00:28:53,131 I feel like often when creating, 632 00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:54,666 you know, space missions, observatories, 633 00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:56,501 you're kind of breaking ground and like the materials 634 00:28:56,501 --> 00:28:58,870 you're using, the temperature that you're testing at. 635 00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:01,873 And there tends to be these like side effects of 636 00:29:01,973 --> 00:29:05,477 like innovation that other fields of science can like, 637 00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:07,112 take advantage of. 638 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:10,348 So did you find any examples of this during your process? 639 00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:16,654 I mean, who wants to answer? Go. 640 00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:19,624 So you're right. 641 00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:21,726 And I think that with our astrophysics missions, 642 00:29:21,726 --> 00:29:25,130 we really do push the boundaries of what's been done before. 643 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:28,166 Every time we do new precision optics, we I mentioned 644 00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:30,835 this is the most stable, telescope. 645 00:29:30,835 --> 00:29:33,738 The it has the most cutting edge coronagraph. 646 00:29:33,738 --> 00:29:35,573 It has precision optics. 647 00:29:35,573 --> 00:29:38,343 If you just think about the James Webb space Telescope 648 00:29:38,343 --> 00:29:41,980 that brought about, like, the actual grinding of the mirrors. 649 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:43,782 Oh, sorry. The polishing, the mirrors, not grinding. 650 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,917 Sorry. Astrophysicist. Polishing of the mirrors. 651 00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:49,754 Would, you know, brought about leaps 652 00:29:49,754 --> 00:29:53,224 in in medicine, in optics, in Lasik. 653 00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:53,525 I mean, 654 00:29:53,525 --> 00:29:56,127 all of the things that with, Roman, 655 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,529 we expect to see the same things. 656 00:29:57,529 --> 00:30:00,565 Can I tell you right now what's going to spin off? No. 657 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,536 But the way that this telescope is constructed, the precision 658 00:30:04,769 --> 00:30:08,373 optics, the stability is absolutely once again 659 00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:10,675 going to push industry and things 660 00:30:10,675 --> 00:30:13,278 that they've had to design and they've had to, like, 661 00:30:13,278 --> 00:30:16,014 change their methods to be able to get to this level 662 00:30:16,014 --> 00:30:17,916 actually benefits everybody. 663 00:30:17,916 --> 00:30:21,486 Because now the whole optics field has improved dramatically. 664 00:30:23,721 --> 00:30:26,724 Move over here. 665 00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:32,764 Hi, I'm Marina Corn with National Geographic. 666 00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:34,232 I think this question is for either 667 00:30:34,232 --> 00:30:36,868 the administrator or Doctor Fox for both. 668 00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:39,304 Looking ahead to the next big space 669 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:42,307 telescope, the Habitable World Observatory. 670 00:30:42,473 --> 00:30:43,975 We heard from the team today 671 00:30:43,975 --> 00:30:46,010 that they're going to be spending the next few years 672 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,745 looking at the mission concept 673 00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:49,747 and seeing if they can make happen 674 00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:54,419 an $11 billion mission by 2020, like 2045 launch. 675 00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:58,489 If they come to you and say, we can't do that, 676 00:30:58,489 --> 00:30:59,524 what's the next step? 677 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:02,327 How do you go about making that mission happen? 678 00:31:02,327 --> 00:31:03,595 So I think, you know, the way 679 00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:05,563 we are thinking about habitable worlds. 680 00:31:05,563 --> 00:31:07,565 I mean, somebody mentioned about, you know what, 681 00:31:07,565 --> 00:31:11,035 what made Nancy Grace Roman such a such a, a success. 682 00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:14,672 And a lot of it is making sure that the technology is ready 683 00:31:14,672 --> 00:31:15,673 to, to go. 684 00:31:15,673 --> 00:31:17,675 So before you actually start sprinting 685 00:31:17,675 --> 00:31:19,744 with a mission, you've actually assured 686 00:31:19,744 --> 00:31:21,179 that you can do the mission. 687 00:31:21,179 --> 00:31:23,615 And so with Habitable Worlds, we're putting a lot of focus 688 00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:25,750 right now on maturing the technology. 689 00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:27,819 We've got a lot of our industry partners 690 00:31:27,819 --> 00:31:29,888 actually working on that right now. 691 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:33,524 There's a big milestone in 2028 when we will actually sort of 692 00:31:33,524 --> 00:31:36,427 step back and look and say, is this mission possible? 693 00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:39,264 If the mission is possible, we will sprint to do the mission 694 00:31:39,264 --> 00:31:43,167 and it will not be 2045 and it will not be $11 billion. 695 00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:46,604 We will put a real budget on a real schedule. 696 00:31:46,604 --> 00:31:47,238 You know, as 697 00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:48,706 the administrator said several times, 698 00:31:48,706 --> 00:31:49,941 we're not interested 699 00:31:49,941 --> 00:31:52,744 in doing something now that's going to launch in the 2040s. 700 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,312 We want to pull that in. 701 00:31:54,312 --> 00:31:58,049 And I think with the with the new focus on doing thing, 702 00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:01,052 you know, faster to science, faster to space, 703 00:32:01,252 --> 00:32:02,520 industry partners have told us 704 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,255 that they are I'm looking at them. 705 00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:06,424 They are up to this challenge. 706 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:08,059 And they are excited 707 00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:09,994 about doing this, and they don't want to wait 708 00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:12,964 till 2045 to launch this mission either. 709 00:32:13,031 --> 00:32:16,100 We didn't want to wait, to launch the Nancy Grace realm, 710 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,502 and we're eight months ahead of schedule. 711 00:32:17,502 --> 00:32:19,137 I'm going to say that, like, 20 times. 712 00:32:19,137 --> 00:32:21,839 But we, you know, we can't wait to launch this mission. 713 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:23,508 Everybody felt the urgency. 714 00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:25,643 Everybody was sprinting towards this. 715 00:32:25,643 --> 00:32:28,146 And I think that, you know, now we've shown we can do it. 716 00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:30,949 We have a large mission study that we did at NASA, 717 00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:33,952 where we looked across the entire space portfolio, 718 00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:36,688 and looked at lessons learned, what worked, what didn't work. 719 00:32:36,688 --> 00:32:38,623 What do you need to do? What what shouldn't you do? 720 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:41,225 What are the barriers? What are the impediments? 721 00:32:41,225 --> 00:32:44,429 And we are really, really, really focused on removing those 722 00:32:44,729 --> 00:32:47,598 and allowing teams to just push and execute. 723 00:32:47,598 --> 00:32:49,734 And so honestly, if if a team comes to me 724 00:32:49,734 --> 00:32:53,104 and says, you know, in 2028, it's 2045 725 00:32:53,104 --> 00:32:56,207 and this much budget, then they won't be getting funded. 726 00:32:57,442 --> 00:32:59,077 Yeah, just that on that. 727 00:32:59,077 --> 00:33:00,244 It's a it's a good question. 728 00:33:00,244 --> 00:33:00,979 This, 729 00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,181 this has come up a lot in various circles 730 00:33:03,181 --> 00:33:04,949 that I've had conversations with and through 731 00:33:04,949 --> 00:33:07,552 and including Congress, those in the side that are 732 00:33:07,552 --> 00:33:09,287 extremely supportive of initiative, 733 00:33:09,287 --> 00:33:12,290 like capital worlds and others that get concern based on 734 00:33:12,523 --> 00:33:13,858 pretty much everything you just said. 735 00:33:13,858 --> 00:33:15,727 It's a well, it's a it's a mission 736 00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:17,628 that's going to launch potentially 20 years from now. 737 00:33:17,628 --> 00:33:20,631 And it's, you know, ten plus billion dollars. 738 00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:24,435 And I fear at times that, this isn't necessarily specific 739 00:33:24,435 --> 00:33:27,739 to habitable worlds, but maybe within some history of NASA 740 00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:31,042 that we design programs that are that are too big to fail, 741 00:33:31,075 --> 00:33:34,078 but then they become too costly to truly succeed. 742 00:33:34,579 --> 00:33:36,014 And I don't think that's the right approach. 743 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:37,515 And maybe, maybe it's believed that 744 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:40,718 taking that approach is a way to have continuity and survive 745 00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:42,020 between administrations. 746 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:45,289 And I actually think that the right way to go about it. 747 00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:46,924 And similar to what we're trying to do now 748 00:33:46,924 --> 00:33:49,260 with the moon base, is a lot of littles. 749 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:52,397 And, to do things in an iterative way to learn 750 00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:53,398 and bring down risk. 751 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:55,366 And maybe as a result, 752 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:58,703 the overall project cost in itself could wind up being more. 753 00:33:59,103 --> 00:34:01,672 But what you get out of it is greater and you do it. 754 00:34:01,672 --> 00:34:04,175 And, you know, again, in a, in a faster way. 755 00:34:04,175 --> 00:34:09,180 So, any commentary I've ever, made is with respect 756 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:13,384 to habitable worlds is, what can we launch sooner to learn, 757 00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:16,020 and help us get to the overall objective 758 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:18,322 of what Habitable Worlds is, which is extraordinary 759 00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:19,624 and something everybody would want. 760 00:34:19,624 --> 00:34:20,892 And in that respect, 761 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:23,895 if it turned out over that same 20 year period of time, 762 00:34:23,961 --> 00:34:24,996 the actual program 763 00:34:24,996 --> 00:34:27,999 cost was greater than, say, ten, $10 billion, 764 00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:28,833 but included 765 00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:30,368 three scientific instruments 766 00:34:30,368 --> 00:34:32,637 that ultimately built up to the grand, 767 00:34:32,637 --> 00:34:35,440 you know, the grand exploration asset that we hope habitable 768 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,474 worlds to be. 769 00:34:36,474 --> 00:34:38,476 I think that's how you actually have continuity 770 00:34:38,476 --> 00:34:41,112 through administrations, how you get to data faster 771 00:34:41,112 --> 00:34:42,747 and ultimately de-risk the 772 00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:44,682 the mega telescope that you want out there 773 00:34:44,682 --> 00:34:47,618 searching for, for habitable worlds. 774 00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:49,287 We're going to move over to the phone bridge 775 00:34:49,287 --> 00:34:53,024 for just a moment and start with Nell Greenfieldboyce from NPR. 776 00:34:55,226 --> 00:34:57,161 Having this briefing, you 777 00:34:57,161 --> 00:35:00,998 mentioned the numbers of extrasolar planets that, 778 00:35:01,332 --> 00:35:04,102 the Roman Space Telescope will be able to find. 779 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,604 Could you talk a little bit more about, 780 00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:08,606 what about the planet 781 00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:10,641 this telescope could reveal, like, 782 00:35:10,641 --> 00:35:13,344 particularly with its direct imaging capabilities. 783 00:35:13,344 --> 00:35:16,280 Thank you. 784 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,850 Okay, so, when I was talking about 785 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:22,887 the large number of planets that we would find, I was 786 00:35:23,888 --> 00:35:28,159 focusing on the planets that we find via indirect, means. 787 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,028 And for that, we can measure things like masses 788 00:35:31,028 --> 00:35:35,199 and radius of the planet from the host star. 789 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:39,137 So that would give us a complete picture of, 790 00:35:40,938 --> 00:35:43,441 the distribution of planets around stars 791 00:35:43,441 --> 00:35:47,011 from very close in to the star all the way, to the 792 00:35:47,278 --> 00:35:49,447 equivalent of the outer part of our solar system. 793 00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:51,649 And even free floating planets. 794 00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:53,217 The Roman 795 00:35:53,217 --> 00:35:56,921 coronagraph is, is designed as a technology demonstration. 796 00:35:57,288 --> 00:36:00,625 So its primary purpose is to demonstrate, 797 00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:05,630 the technologies needed for a future mission to, 798 00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:08,666 focus on, direct measurements of, 799 00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:11,736 extrasolar planets. 800 00:36:11,903 --> 00:36:14,906 Obviously, the best way of demonstrating 801 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:18,776 performance for a coronagraph on a path 802 00:36:18,776 --> 00:36:21,445 to finding planets around other stars is to find planets 803 00:36:21,445 --> 00:36:24,448 around other stars with that coronagraph. 804 00:36:24,582 --> 00:36:28,786 But the overall, performance is a little bit more uncertain. 805 00:36:28,786 --> 00:36:33,224 I'm not that familiar with the specifics of what 806 00:36:33,224 --> 00:36:36,360 we are guaranteed to learn from. 807 00:36:37,895 --> 00:36:40,798 From observations with our coronagraph, 808 00:36:40,798 --> 00:36:43,568 just that it's very exciting. 809 00:36:43,568 --> 00:36:45,970 And we'll now move to Manuel Mars Zante 810 00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:48,973 with exploration especially all. 811 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,009 Thank you so much 812 00:36:52,009 --> 00:36:53,010 for sharing. 813 00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:57,481 Roman is going to send us tons of information to Nikki. 814 00:36:57,515 --> 00:37:01,252 I think just you mentioned 1.4TB, terabytes per day. 815 00:37:01,686 --> 00:37:04,655 And I understand that the agency is going to use, 816 00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:07,792 platform called Roman Research Nexus. 817 00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:10,728 Can someone briefly explain how does it work? 818 00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:12,697 And I'm assuming research around the world, 819 00:37:12,697 --> 00:37:15,466 scientists will will have access to it. 820 00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:19,870 Is NASA going to use any kind of AI tool or software 821 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:23,007 that would help scientists to better process all 822 00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:24,242 this information? Thank you. 823 00:37:26,143 --> 00:37:27,011 Okay, that there 824 00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:30,014 is a lot in, in those questions. 825 00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:33,084 So, 826 00:37:34,952 --> 00:37:37,822 The data archive for Roman 827 00:37:37,822 --> 00:37:41,525 is among the largest in, space based, 828 00:37:41,525 --> 00:37:44,996 astrophysics, and requires a slightly different approach 829 00:37:44,996 --> 00:37:45,696 to using it. 830 00:37:45,696 --> 00:37:49,433 So our model is that we archive the data in the cloud 831 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,035 and people 832 00:37:51,035 --> 00:37:54,705 access the data through, through a science platform. 833 00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:58,075 So you can log in to the science platform. 834 00:37:58,075 --> 00:38:00,845 You're in a Roman specific environment. 835 00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:02,980 It's easy to access the data. 836 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:04,749 It's easy to visualize the data. 837 00:38:04,749 --> 00:38:07,718 It's easy to use the data. 838 00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:09,687 And that facility is open to everybody. 839 00:38:09,687 --> 00:38:12,990 So for the earlier question on, 840 00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:16,193 how can young people get excited about Roman, 841 00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:19,130 you can get excited about Roman by being on the forefront. 842 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,633 A class in Kentucky can see Roman data 843 00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:25,636 at the same time as a professor in Princeton. 844 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:28,506 And your access to that data 845 00:38:28,506 --> 00:38:31,475 is through the Roman research nexus. 846 00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:35,446 That same environment also supports, researchers, 847 00:38:35,513 --> 00:38:38,516 all across, all across the country, 848 00:38:38,516 --> 00:38:41,786 where we're working hard to facilitate easy, 849 00:38:41,786 --> 00:38:43,321 quick access to the data, 850 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:46,524 where you're not wasting time downloading, things 851 00:38:46,524 --> 00:38:49,593 and then discovering that you're that the CPU on your laptop 852 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,696 wasn't sufficient to do anything with it. 853 00:38:53,230 --> 00:38:54,365 So the second part of your 854 00:38:54,365 --> 00:38:57,401 question on AI with Roman, 855 00:38:58,502 --> 00:39:02,106 I personally I think that the field of AI is moving. 856 00:39:02,106 --> 00:39:06,711 So fast, that any answer that I gave now 857 00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:09,046 would probably not be representative of where 858 00:39:09,046 --> 00:39:12,483 the field is in a year, and what we're actually doing with it. 859 00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:16,354 We are using slices of AI and machine learning 860 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,289 in a variety of different scientific, 861 00:39:18,289 --> 00:39:20,324 things that we're doing with Roman. 862 00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:23,294 We're exploring the possibility of a genetic pipelines 863 00:39:23,294 --> 00:39:25,629 where you have AI assisted assist you 864 00:39:25,629 --> 00:39:28,032 with getting to the right place with your analysis 865 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:32,503 so that a grad student doesn't waste time with, with minutia 866 00:39:32,503 --> 00:39:33,904 and gets, you know, straight 867 00:39:33,904 --> 00:39:36,874 to the interesting parts of, of an analysis. 868 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,411 But I think there is a very good chance that 869 00:39:41,479 --> 00:39:42,046 a deep, 870 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:46,183 rich, large dataset data set is almost a poster child 871 00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:50,755 for being exploited extremely effectively with, with AI. 872 00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:53,190 And that doesn't mean that the humans are out of the loop. 873 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:56,360 It just means that you let the computers do the hard work, 874 00:39:56,494 --> 00:39:59,764 and then the exciting, physics bubbles, to the top 875 00:39:59,964 --> 00:40:01,966 for the astronomers and the scientists 876 00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:04,969 and the country at large to enjoy. 877 00:40:05,369 --> 00:40:06,804 We're going to take one last question 878 00:40:06,804 --> 00:40:09,807 from Ken Chang of The New York Times. 879 00:40:10,841 --> 00:40:12,276 Hi. Thank you. 880 00:40:12,276 --> 00:40:13,677 This is for Jamie. 881 00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:15,546 I go through it. 882 00:40:15,546 --> 00:40:18,516 I was wondering, can you give me examples of 883 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:22,887 what you did better and different than the earlier 884 00:40:22,953 --> 00:40:25,923 space telescopes that weren't ahead of schedule and, 885 00:40:26,323 --> 00:40:29,193 under budget? 886 00:40:29,193 --> 00:40:31,462 Was it something on the front end where you didn't 887 00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,764 rely on technologies that weren't ready yet? 888 00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:34,865 Or can you give me examples 889 00:40:34,865 --> 00:40:39,370 of problems that popped up with you able to, you know, fix them 890 00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:43,240 before they became big problems that delayed everything? 891 00:40:43,707 --> 00:40:44,074 Thank you. 892 00:40:45,242 --> 00:40:45,676 Okay. 893 00:40:45,676 --> 00:40:47,278 Let's see. 894 00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:48,712 Well, I'll say a few things. 895 00:40:48,712 --> 00:40:52,850 Another another two biggie, 896 00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:56,787 things in terms of, what led to our success. 897 00:40:57,421 --> 00:41:01,025 The first was the architecture, the overall architecture 898 00:41:01,025 --> 00:41:04,962 and the in the very beginning, this this observatory 899 00:41:04,962 --> 00:41:08,232 was was architected by the team here. 900 00:41:08,232 --> 00:41:11,235 And, basically 901 00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:14,338 it was known going in that this was going to be 902 00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:16,474 a cost cap mission and that, 903 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:20,311 the programmatic were going to be, a, a major 904 00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:21,545 part of the success criteria 905 00:41:21,545 --> 00:41:24,548 wasn't just the technical scientific performance. 906 00:41:24,715 --> 00:41:28,352 And so there was a lot of work earlier on, but early on put in 907 00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:29,420 by the team 908 00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:32,523 to basically architect something that was achievable. 909 00:41:32,523 --> 00:41:34,592 There were stretches in places, but it was 910 00:41:34,592 --> 00:41:36,193 they were known stretches. 911 00:41:36,193 --> 00:41:39,630 Those were, handled, 912 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:42,233 you know, in, in, in the early years 913 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,436 in the technology development, like the detectors, the, 914 00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:45,970 the funding, 915 00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:47,238 the resources were put in there 916 00:41:47,238 --> 00:41:49,139 to, to accelerate those developments 917 00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:50,541 and make sure that they were ready. 918 00:41:50,541 --> 00:41:53,544 Once we get to, you know, larger stages of integration. 919 00:41:53,677 --> 00:41:55,045 So that was key. 920 00:41:55,045 --> 00:41:58,582 And another key was, was stability 921 00:41:58,582 --> 00:42:00,985 from, from, I'll say downtown. 922 00:42:00,985 --> 00:42:03,888 You know, it's it's hard to do, 923 00:42:03,888 --> 00:42:07,258 project the big especially when it's really big. 924 00:42:07,258 --> 00:42:10,427 If you don't have stability and if you're funding 925 00:42:10,828 --> 00:42:13,564 is going up and down all over the place and, 926 00:42:13,564 --> 00:42:15,332 you can't plan from year to 927 00:42:15,332 --> 00:42:17,201 year, it makes it really hard to succeed. 928 00:42:17,201 --> 00:42:20,771 And so we've been, very fortunate that 929 00:42:21,872 --> 00:42:24,575 our stakeholders, both at headquarters and, and, 930 00:42:24,575 --> 00:42:28,612 and in Congress have entrusted us to 931 00:42:29,113 --> 00:42:31,715 the resources that we said we need. 932 00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:32,950 And, I like to say 933 00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:34,818 everybody held up their end of the bargain. Right? 934 00:42:34,818 --> 00:42:35,753 We we delivered. 935 00:42:35,753 --> 00:42:38,756 We year after year, we did what we said we were going to do. 936 00:42:39,823 --> 00:42:42,459 And and the resources and the, 937 00:42:42,459 --> 00:42:46,230 and the support from from them was, was always there. 938 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,666 And so that's, it's really a nice way to do it. 939 00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:48,966 Right. 940 00:42:48,966 --> 00:42:51,735 It's, it's, it's, it's less controversial. 941 00:42:51,735 --> 00:42:54,004 It makes it a lot easier to be successful. 942 00:42:54,004 --> 00:42:56,974 So that was that was key as well. 943 00:42:57,408 --> 00:42:59,076 And that concludes this afternoon's 944 00:42:59,076 --> 00:43:01,211 Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope briefing. 945 00:43:01,211 --> 00:43:02,746 Thank you all for your participation, 946 00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:04,648 both in this and throughout today. 947 00:43:04,648 --> 00:43:07,084 And please follow Roman's journey at NASA.gov. 948 00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:07,885 Slash Roman, 949 00:43:09,687 --> 00:43:11,655 you should you join.